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Author: Subject: What is cool?

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  posted on 3/12/2003 at 10:02 PM
This is one of those philosophical questions that should be discussed at every coffee shop, but isn't. Probably because most people are afraid to know the answers - as they probably should be.

What makes people cool?

I'm not talking about what makes them seem socially compelling. I'm talking about the genuine shit. The people that are just on the vibe and undenyably cool without trying.

Everybody list only one quality per post and defend it. DON"T repeat what anyone else has said or everyone will laugh at you for being redundant and uncool.

I'll start:

Cool people are Lucid.
They are clear thinkers and pay attention to and understand what is going on around them. They understand other people's issues and behavior, and have their own clear ideas.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2003 at 10:21 PM
Cool people know the difference between what they belive, what they think, and what they know.

They may beleive that the world is flat, think that Columbus was a nutter, and know how fast the earth rotates around the sun.

They know the differences between what thier heart tells them, their mind tells them, and what society tells them. And when to pay attention to each.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2003 at 01:20 AM
Cool people know who they are.
Beyond anything else, they know what makes them special, what defines thier thoughts and beliefs. The understan how this affects their interactions with the universe and others and know their strengths and weaknesses.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2003 at 01:34 AM
Cool people have chutzpah

"Chutzpah" is the Yiddish equivalent of "balls" in the figurative sense. Cool people are the ones who aren't afraid to tell you what they think, even if you think they are wrong. Cool people will tell you when you fucked up, how you fucked up, and how you can fix (or at least do damage control) on what you fucked up. These are the people who can call you a fucktard with genuine feeling, and yet still make it clear that they loved you enough to call you a fucktard to call attention to the error of your ways...and cared enough to let you make your own mistakes...and not just so they could call you a fucktard later...

 

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  posted on 4/12/2003 at 07:58 AM
I disagree with Cool people have chutzpah

While some certainly do, I have met shy mousy people who are still cool. I've met people with low self esteem who are still cool. I've met people with complete agorophobia who are still cool.

I don't think chutzpah is a universal attribute of coolness in the same way as the 3 statements above it.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2003 at 10:32 AM
Cool people aren't afraid to admit when they are wrong

Whether it was a previous belief they had held about something or someone, or just some inane little factoid, cool people will admit that they were off, take in the new info and get on with their cool lives. They don't dwell on their mistakes in a futile manner, they learn something new and move on.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2003 at 10:41 AM
Cool people know when to talk and when to just listen.

They know when it's a time to be talking themselves, and when it's a time to just sit back, relax, and maybe even smile a little, while they let others do some talking.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2003 at 10:47 AM
"Cool people do stupid things. That’s what makes them cool." -FLCL

Don't think jackass like stuff automatically makes you cool. Think of those people who fought a loosing battle, people who stood up against the majority, fighting for idiotic things like ideas and morals. Think Joan of Arc; she did a stupid thing refusing to deny her faith, and die for it.

I know this coincides with the chutzpah posts, but people do unintentional stupid things without thinking of the consequences and wind up cool.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2003 at 07:55 PM
Cool people are observant

I don't mean tSherlock Holmes observant, but they do know what is going on around them. They can tell when a person is down and needs a hug, they can tell when the person they are trying to cheer up has had enough, and they can see when the people around them are in a good mood. They can also see the mood of a crowd and how it's going to affect those around them.

 

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  posted on 5/12/2003 at 12:01 AM
Cool people have a life

Cool people have a real life, with real worries and feelings, and that is the center of their thoughts and feelings. That real life is what gives them that solidness, that density that attracts people the way great masses atract smaller ones, the fact that, to them, the drappings of life are just the drappings of life and not life itself. thus they can treat with disdain what uncool people cavet. Status, adoration, role modelling, überness... these are really unimportant compared to their real lives

 

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  posted on 5/12/2003 at 11:07 AM
Cool people have standards and priorities
They know what they want and how important it is to them. A cool person can want some new toy or outfit and is able to see how that fits into their schedule/budget/whatever without the need to consult everyone they know. They can also make decisions based on fact and reality without losing sight of their dreams.

 

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  posted on 5/12/2003 at 03:11 PM
Devin: I disagree with your disagreement; however I do see your point.

Case in point:

"Part of the uniqueness of Yiddish words like chutzpah is that their meaning varies depending on context and degree. In the right circumstances and to the right degree chutzpah may intimate spunk. But in the wrong situation or to an improper degree, chutzpah implies insolence. In fact chutzpah can have such negative connotation that the word itself has occasionally caused litigation."

from http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/SupremeChutzpah.html

Anyway, I was raised with the definition of "Chutzpah" being more about "spunk" than about "insolence." Believe me, I know plenty of cool people with chutzpah who never make their points with a sledgehammer or by raising their voices ala Roseanne, who gave chutzpah a negative persona. Of course, I also know plenty of cool people with Roseanne-quality chutzpah, so that's why I consider it something that cool people have.

Like anything else, it's a matter of perspective.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2003 at 01:34 AM
Cool people have Vibe

They subconsciously or consciously know how to move vibe around. They may do it with art, music, writing, speaking, dancing, or any number of ways, but they all do it. They may have any number of names for it, but they all know what it is.

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And LC, I still disagree, not because your argument is necessarily wrong, but because it makes no sense and I can't understand the argument.

To recap:
You said cool people are extroverts
I said cool people can be introverts too
You said i'm wrong because of Rosanne (i think)

If you're saying what I think you're saying, I think my next response is supposed to be "Who says cool people need to make points?" - but I'm not sure that's what you're saying so I don't know if that's what I'm supposed to say.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2003 at 02:22 AM
Devin, my point was that having chutzpah has nothing to do with being extroverted or introverted. I know introverted people with spunk, and chutzpah has been given a bad connotation because of people who act like Roseanne did in the 1990s.

You aren't wrong to disagree with me; that's the beauty of a discussion. I apologize for not being more clear with my point; I have a lot on my mind, and the only reason I even posted a justification for my opinion was so I didn't come across as someone who would post an opinion, then fade out when that opinion was questioned. I'm not someone who's easily offended by someone disagreeing with me. It's just not the foremost thing on my mind right now.

If I'm still not making sense, feel free to shoot me.

 

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  posted on 8/12/2003 at 12:09 AM
Cool people can separate their likes and dislikes from their core personality.

It seems like lately I've been meeting lots of people who take it personally when I don't like their favorite band, or their favorite TV show, or even their favorite food. A cool person can absolutely love something I think is awful. If they ask my opnion about it, and I tell them I think it's awful they won't be offended. Because they are confident enough to understand that not liking their favorite thing isn't the same as not liking them. Really cool people can apply this principle to big things, like beliefs.

 

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  posted on 8/12/2003 at 09:38 AM
Cool people can live by example.

Cool people do not need to preach or boast about anything in public. They're above the need to brag about getting laid, being "holier-than-thou", or anything of the like. They can simply live by action and are above the need to justify their selves with words.

 

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  posted on 8/12/2003 at 10:31 AM
I agree with Cool people can live by example , but I don't agree with your definition. Cool people do brag about getting laid, they do boast, and by nature of being cooler than everyone else, they are "holier-than-thou" and sometimes they act like it. This does not keep them from being cool. There are attributes of cool people that have to do with that stuff, but they would be stuff like "Cool people only brag about getting laid to people they know will appreciate it" - or "Cool people are only holier-than-thou when it's appropriate".

Cool people can live by example means that cool people can learn from other people's mistakes. When they were developing their coolness, they could identify who was cool and change their behavior to match. They can enjoy the story of Sid and Nancy and use their experiences in place of having to experience that stuff for themselves. Cool people can see someone do something stupid, and not have to do it themselves. It's amazing how many people can't do this.

P.S. Kira nailed a big one I think

 

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  posted on 8/12/2003 at 12:14 PM
Cool people are themselves... no matter what... BUT that self can be re-evaluated based on current and new stimuli and infromation.

Nuff said

 

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  posted on 8/12/2003 at 12:33 PM
Where is Monolycus? I'm sure he'd have quite a say as for this...

Feral and Devin, you summed it up quite well, but you missed something:

Cool people like squirrels.

Actually, thats not true; I know several cool people who hate squirrels. But Cool people are in tune with nature.

 

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  posted on 8/12/2003 at 03:29 PM
Cool People have charisma

If indeed you are a cool person, you have to power to be attractive on various levels.

 

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