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Author: Subject: Who's afraid of Halloween?

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  posted on 31/10/2003 at 01:13 AM
I was going to make an article about this, but with time being short, I'm placing it here nonetheless.

Who's afraid of Halloween? Everyone it seems. It's not a fear of the devil or of spooks and spirits, it's a fear of a razorblade in an apple that never even happened. It's a fear of hypodermic syringes in tootsie rolls, rat poison in the popcorn balls, of strangers, even when those strangers are your very own neighbors.
Granted, there are a lot of sick fucks and predators out there, but every year when halloween comes around I get to thinking about the new ritual of trick or treating in malls. When we first started doing it around 4 years ago I thought it kind of ridiculous, I mean who wants to get dressed up and walk around a MALL to get candy? But year after year the lines became longer, the procession of children thicker, and the candy running shorter. I can understand the idea if you don't live in an area conductive to trick or treating (as I am, in the BOONIES), but for the most part it's people who have scared themselves stupid and forcing that fear on their children.
Granted I don't have to deal with this anymore (being of the unemployed variety at the moment), but it bothers me anyway.
Where has the fun gone? It's been taken over by a candy coated fear of everyone and everything in the guise of "saftey" and "smart".

I did some looking into some of the well placed fears regarding trickortreating, and found something rather interesting.
In the past 20 years there have been TWO deaths resulting from a child injesting poisoned halloween candy, and both incidents were perpetraded by members of the child's OWN FAMILY. No needles, no rat poison, no razors. We can thank John Carpenter for that juicy morsel of movie creativity turned urban legend way back when Jamie Lee Curtis barely was out of a training bra.

Where is the fun in walking around in a procession under flourescent tubing in a climate controled enviroment? Hell half the kids never even bothered to say "trick or treat" anymore, let alone mutter a "happy halloween". They just stick out their bags and buckets because on some level they too realise that it SUCKS.

Know what's fun? Freezing your ass off, walking in the dark and the leaves, and if you live in the Pacific NW, fog drizzle or rain. I only got to trick or treat twice, when I was about 12, and it was great. I didn't live in a neighborhood, so I went with a friend that lived in town. It's not even so much the candy, it's being out after dark, being scared, messing around with your friends.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about safe. MAKE your kids wear the glowsticks and reflective doo dads that they bitch and moan about. If they're young, go with them, if they're too "old" for mom to tag along make sure you know their route and that their group is large. Or hell, live a little and go with them anyway. Those stupid T shirts that say "this IS my costume" are like, five bucks. Live a little folks. What's the point of a carved and lit pumpkin that will only be seen by passing cars? What's the point of spooky decorations that nobody's going to be spooked by? What fun is a scary costume in bright light?

The boogeymen that keep most people on edge every day are no more proliferant on one day of the year than they are any other day. The world is always scary, only on this one day the screams are SUPPOSED to be part of the fun, and now that's dwindeling to a fraction of what it was. You can't even wear a mask in a mall, gas station, or most "public" places because you might be a maniac or a terrorist. Most halloween parties by schools or communities forbid "scary" costumes. Hell when I was in highschool I came dressed as the Uni-bomber, and nobody gave me greif!

So that's it, that's my piece, for what it's worth. To the rest of the world that locks their doors and leaves a bowl of candy on the porch, too scared to open it to a group of kids out for the night for some fun, to those dragging their kids to march in a procession line under flourescent tubes in a "safe" climate controlled mecca to consumerism, lighten the fuck up. It's halloween. Maybe you need to be scared for real just once, even if to release your year round pent up anxiety over "the unknown" aka LIFE. Quit pushing your hyped up unfounded anxieties on your kids. Betcha I can make you pee by just walking up behind and saying BOO. I won't even have to demand your wallet. I'll just take your candy while your fumbing through your keys for your can of mace.

I mean come on, it's halloween. What're you so scared of?

[Edited on 10/31/2003 by bettie_x]

 

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  posted on 31/10/2003 at 04:10 AM
I live in a small town, and this one and the neighboring towns have limited the "trick or treat" hours to about two hours between about 7pm and 9pm. Last year I think I had two neighbors maybe three show up for trick or treating. It seems most of the kids around here either go to a party for Halloween or to one of the big production haunted houses in the area. There are a few within about thirty minutes of each other and their evening is spent in line and after going through the place standing outside talking about it instead of going trick or treating. I'm really glad I got to do the real trick or treating a few times as a kid or I'd never of known it really existed once upon a time as a thing to do.

 

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  posted on 31/10/2003 at 07:01 AM


I usually do a halloween party for my kids, mostly because the youngest two were kinda young to be dragging about the neighborhood, or it was too cold or raining, or because it was less expensive to have a party than to buy costumes for all of them. This year, I bought costumes for them for their school halloween parade, so I took them trick or treating last night. It was from 6-8 p.m. which meant it was mostly in the dark, and the neighbors around here really got into the spirit. There were all kinds of really cool decorated houses and lots of kids running around. After one hour, the twins were tired, so I took them back home and left them with Rogue and I continued with the girls for another half an hour. What amazed me was that they were too tired to continue until 8:00. They were also hauling as much as 10 pounds of candy each. I remember when I was a kid, there was no set time to stop trick or treating and we were out for hours. I remember complaining when it was time to go home. Kids just have no stamina these days..

 

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  posted on 31/10/2003 at 09:39 AM
I think the only thing that ever scared me about Halloween was the threat of the sick fucks who would put nasty surprises in the treats for the kiddies. Bastards.
What's to be afraid of? It's only the best freaking holiday of the year, and my birthday! Happy birthday me!

 

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  posted on 31/10/2003 at 12:38 PM
Well happy birthday then! ANd like I said, I looked into the urban legend of the razors, needles, and poison in halloween treats and there has never been a case of the sharps hidden within, and only two poisonings in the last 20 years that were actually done by a member of the child's family.

I don't remember a "time limit" on the trickortreating either. You stopped when the porch lights indicated the people in that house went to bed or ran out of candy.

 

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  posted on 31/10/2003 at 05:12 PM
A friend of mine who lives in Georgia says that people around him think that Halloween is evil. To him, it was a time when the Celts respected the dead. Everyone in my area are up and prepared for Halloween. It's my favourite Holiday next to Yule/Christmas.

Oh yeah, happy B'fricken Day Merry Widow.



 

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  posted on 1/11/2003 at 04:49 AM
Well he does live in THE bible belt, it's to be expected.
I'm kind of disapointed with the lack of those fun little coupon size comic books that I think the seventh day adventists scatter all over every halloween. I remember getting into a religious paraphernelia war with the mormons across the parkinglot of my old apartment building over those. *sigh*
All I gotta say is that THEY STARTED it with their stupid giant picture of jesus hanging face side out on their sliding glass door that just HAPPENED to be on the main drag right by the office so that EVERYONE on that side of the complex had to look at it to get home. If they can hang their lord and holy sheep herder, *I* can tape an enlarged cartoon of a Black Mass (that I got from the 7day advent people. thx.) on MY door so THEY have to see it when THEY wanna wash their whitey-tideys.

But I did figure something out. Nothing makes a mormon youth on his mission angrier than when you turn the picture of christ he taped on your door into a pro-wrestler with some majic markers. That, and using the old fortune cookie game of adding "in bed" to the end of the fortune on the psalms and quotes they also took great care in taping up next to their lamb of salvation.

*sigh*

I miss those little comic books.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2003 at 11:36 AM
We'll my aunt is afraid of Halloween.
I'ts almost impossible to have a conversation with her, because "praise jesus, oh lord" is edited into every 7th word. I think I told her once that she should say "my god" instead of god, because I might not believe what she believes, and she broke into tears. Anywho, disturbing issues aside, she is wholey convinced that HAlloween is the devils birthday, and that pure evil surrounds the night. Its the kind of uneducated, sad mindset that creates Haleluyah Night at the local chirch instead of Halloween night. But if it makes her sleep better at night, clutching her crucifix and crying, then so be it.

I, btw, now fear Halloween, because last night my friend freaked out on X, and probably almost died. I used to think being the sober one was cool, but when your the only guy there that has to handle your friend and her boyfriend going ape shit and burning up, it sux.
Trick or Treat.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2003 at 05:15 PM
I know people like that. It's funny if you listen to them talk for a while, and take out the blessed this and savior that and hallelujah! it usually amounts to a mere sentence or two, even if they've been talking for 5 min.

Has anyone else seen any of those little 7th day adventist books, by the way? I haven't seen ONE, not even in the bathrooms. *sheesh* they're slipping. My fav was the one about the kid that dies after going to a haunted house with his friends, and his mom is standing on her porch telling them how her sinning son is rotting in hell and that was the place for sinners like him, and they all accept jesus and forget about their buddy and walk away in sunshine and rainbows vowing to never go to a "satan's house" again.

 

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  posted on 2/11/2003 at 05:52 PM
Jesus as a wrestler...that's some interesting brain candy. It's almost as cheesy/funny as him on a surfing board.

 

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  posted on 2/11/2003 at 08:57 PM
this year i went to a concert for halloween. granted it was fun, and different, but i still miss going out. but even when i used to go out i'd have trouble finding friends to go with. i live in the "bible belt" too, and most of the friends i had/have growing up were not aloud to go out for Halloween, because thier bible-thumping parents said it was evil.
which i never understood (even back when i tried to believe in the christianity thing) how free candy, dressing up to be whoever you want to be, and walking around in the dark and usually rainy streets with your friends for atleast a few hours was evil.

also, i live in a small town, and for the last few years, they've managed to schedule a hometown football game on Halloween. and everbody(not me) goes to the games.
gee, just another way to kill the holiday. oh well, everyday is Halloween for me...minus the free candy.

 

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  posted on 2/11/2003 at 11:23 PM
Well, Halloween -is- a day of evil... And that's what's so cool about it.

For one night, we get to dress up as spawn of the underworld and accept candy bribes ('trick or treat' isn't just a friendly greeting... ) from the 'adults'.
The next day (if we're good little boys and girls), we're at mass, celebrating all saint's day. (Which pisses off the puritans, because they don't believe in saints...)

Its a chance to get out and be a kid! If people object, its their loss, not mine;

I'll egg their house later.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2003 at 04:04 AM
Well, I opened a bag of tootsie roll pops and noone came up to my door for any. Oh well. I went off to pick up a pizza and didn't see very many people out on the streets at all really this year.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2003 at 12:01 PM
I noticed that too. I used to get people at my place until midnight, but when I got home that night, my mother told me the treaters cut out after 8:15. At first I figure some lingering sept. 11 fear did it, but halloween was pretty open even that year. Maybe it is some lingering lack of all hallows spirit has taken over, and trick or treating is dead. Bah!

 

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  posted on 3/11/2003 at 07:19 PM
Ironboots: Actually, Halloween originally was not evil at all. It started off as a day to respect the dead, and still is to an extent - even with many Catholics. However, it is true that many cultures believed that costumes and masks scared off evil spirits.

I have heard though that there was some superstition, mainly among some Christians, that evil spirits walked about the day before All Saint's Day (November 1 to 2) and anyone not wearing a mask when outside of their house was believed to be "in pact with the Devil." Maybe I have some facts mixed up. *calls for Arthegarn to correct me on anything*

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  posted on 4/11/2003 at 08:56 AM
well i am a bit scared of Halloween. after all its when christians try to dress up like things that they hate or fear and try to act like things that they hate or fear. And a large group of epressed christians isnt something I want to meet in a nice dark street.
Now, some of the other holidays that take place on or about the same day are kinda neat: End of Harvest, Bonfire Night, New year's Eve, Night of the Dead/not yet Born, and so on. in most of them you get to mix the best parts of thanksgiving with the best parts of exotic erotic ball.
And you dont have to watch soccor moms point flash lights at thier kids.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2003 at 01:39 PM

WHo you callin' a soccer mom? *guiltily hides the flashlight behind back* I needed it. They went in 4 directions at once, two of them wearing black costumes. I would never have found them if not for that flashlight...

 

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  posted on 4/11/2003 at 04:18 PM
We still have trick or treaters coming round here in the valleys and such, but where I live people are scared to go out on Halloween. and it's not cause of poisoned candy. Halloween always makes the news here cause of the large groups of youths who go out with eggs, flour and water guns and will aim for anything that moves. Bus windows have been smashed, and cars have been stopped and rocked almost til they tilted over, and heaven help you if you're walking.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2003 at 04:53 PM
Okay, Pixi, that sounds like me when I was about 14... we were hellions. shaving cream on the cars in a used car lot, eggs on various houses, toliet paper in the trees and soap on the windows... we had one helluva time... I only did that one year, and because I was running with a messed-up bunch of people... we were such punks...

 

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  posted on 5/11/2003 at 01:03 AM
Yeah, but I'm guessing that you wouldn't have gone as far as beating people up.

 

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