Ironboots
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 893 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 19/10/2003 at 06:36 PM |
If you want to get really really angry at the selfishness of some people,
go here: www.terrisfight.org
I don't have much time to write about my reaction, but it speaks for
itself...
[Edited on 10/20/2003 by Ironboots] ____________________
Piggy's got the Conch!
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic   Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 19/10/2003 at 06:47 PM |
| That man(Terri's husband) should be strapped to a bed and starved to death.
I hate seeing vultures in action... ____________________
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AloneSoul
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posted on 19/10/2003 at 07:35 PM |
| I heard about that on Howard Stern, unfuckingbelievable. ____________________
 but at least you know, just how much pain there is in living
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 20/10/2003 at 02:07 AM |
I heard about the situation on headline news, and I couldn't believe how
angry it made me. I made sure that my husband, my boss, and some customers
knew what I had found out about it all, and it made them as sick as me. It
took a good deal of work by my husband to get me calmed down about it all.
I mean I get upset about some things, but the whole thing hit me worse than
I could have imagined after visiting the Terri's Fight website.
[Edited on 10/20/2003 by Starlight] ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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Stille
Occasional Poster   Posts: 42 Registered: 3/10/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 20/10/2003 at 06:09 AM |
| I'm passing this out on every forum I roam. I can't believe things like
this can actually happen! ____________________
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 20/10/2003 at 11:59 AM |
| That is positively disgusting. I can't believe that her husband has rights
to her over even her PARENTS. Is everyone in that fucking medical system
BLIND to what this asshole is DOING? This is a GODSEND for him! A million
bucks to just yank the feeding tube and let his wife starve to death. If
she was a "healthY" woman and he tied her up to starve and die for
insurance money he'd be tried, convicted, and hung. I seriously question
the validity of the doctors he uses, and how terrifying it is that people
like that are in the medical field at ALL. They should court order
independent tests on her simply to discount the doctors statements and then
have each and every one of those "specialists" FIRED with their liscences
up their ass. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Ironboots
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 893 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 20/10/2003 at 01:51 PM |
Yeah, when I read about it, I just wanted to take a baseball bat repeatedly
to that man's head. Its shocking that there are people that are that cold
and selfish, that they would leave their spouse to die a terrible death,
just for the money.
Grr....  ____________________
Piggy's got the Conch!
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 20/10/2003 at 03:52 PM |
I heard about that. I thought that he was "going with her wishes." If
it's for money, though, gah... That's just cold.
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 20/10/2003 at 03:57 PM |
Gah. Hate being misinformed. Also do not understand why a life would be
thrown away because of money. Bleh.
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AloneSoul
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posted on 20/10/2003 at 05:30 PM |
| Avarice is the root of all evil. ____________________
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dead-cell
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posted on 20/10/2003 at 11:09 PM |
Can a judge order someone to starve to death? How humane is that? I hope
Terri spontaneously recovers and give her jerk of a "Husband" a bitch slap
that leaves him in a coma.
[Edited on 10/21/2003 by dead-cell] ____________________
co-worker: "Your gay!?"
myself: "Didn't you see my rainbow pin?"
co-worker: "I just thought you liked skettles."
-(yes, it actually happened to me)
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/10/2003 at 11:18 AM |
Lives are thrown away and destroyed for money every day around the globe.
This is just one of the many very sad sad publicised ones.
This is why it's so important to have a will, even if you don't have much.
Things happen, and people you don't want to benifit or shouldn't benifit
do.
I have a life insurance policy, and my husband knows about it. He's the
sole beneficiary of an amount that will pay off the car, our credit cards,
and any hospital bills incurred before or during my death (mine or his),
any miscelanious bills, my funeral, and leave some left over for him to go
to school on, or get back on his feet. I added it all up one day when I
got the application papers. It won't make him rich by any means, but it'll
keep him secure so he can go on with his life. Definitely not enough to
have me killed, tho  ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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ariadne
Member   Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/10/2003 at 06:08 PM |
| i heard on the news today that he is shacking up with some woman. her
parents definitely should hold more legal sway in this matter than that
scumbag. doctors don't know as much as they think they do. they claim that
terri doesn't even know what is happening around her. how the fuck do they
really know that? those were the husband's doctors though. it doesn't seem
that terri is going through any pain so euthanasia cannot be used as an
excuse for murder. a real doctor will admit that the brain is still a
mystery and they still do not know everything about how the brain
functions. she appears to respond to her mother, i heard a doc on a news
program state that those responses are involuntary, oh, so the noticable
change in her expressions only occur when her mom is talking to her but she
isn't really responding? some docs shouldn't be able to practice medicine.
this is where a "living will " comes in handy. ____________________
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VampCourt
Fanatic  Posts: 293 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/10/2003 at 08:12 PM |
| poor poor woman. how a human can be so cruel another in that regard, i do
not understand. he needs to be put to death. the fucker. ____________________
"Thou shalt not be afraid of the dark, nor of graveyards nor ghosts nor the
devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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Tvileren
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posted on 21/10/2003 at 10:35 PM |
The National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke have stated
that people in such a state occasionally grimace, cry or laugh but it is
purely a reaction. There is no corresponding brain activity. The doctors
testified in court that "the noises and facial expressions Terri Schiavo
makes are reflexes and do not indicate that she has mental capabilities to
communicate.
The doctors chosen by the husband say she's in a vegetative state and will
never come out.
The doctors chosen by the court say she's in a vegetative state and will
never come out. - those would be the doctors who have no reason to take a
side.
The girl died 12 years ago. The docs says so. The courts say so. And her
husband is trying to do what she wanted.
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 21/10/2003 at 11:12 PM |
I heard on the news tonight that the Florida Supreme Court gave Jeb Bush
the authority to officially intervene in this case, and so he has ordered
that she now be kept alive and her tube to be reinserted. Yeah for Terry's
sake!
On a side note, I do hope that her situation was not worsened by the lack
of nutrition during the time she was not being fed. I'm just glad that now
nature can take it's course with her instead of intentional starvation. I
just can't make myself believe that if a person's brain still shows
activity of any kind and has a heart beat, that they should be left to die
unless they actually have a valid living will that says to do that. I think
that in the absence of a valid living will from the person themselves
before having suffered an accident (not someone appointed as their guardian
or proxy), that there is always a hint of doubt as to what the person truly
wanted. In the case of doubt, I tend to side with trying to save the life. ____________________
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've
never
tried before." ~Mae West
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 22/10/2003 at 08:20 AM |
http://www.msnbc.com/news/980564.asp?vts=102220030758
Fresh this morning. ____________________
Okay, dazzle me.
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ariadne
Member Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/10/2003 at 12:08 PM |
tvileren, i beg to differ. there is a difference between brain death and a
persistent vegetative state.
or simply: http://health.howstuffworks.com/brain-death3.htm
[Edited on 22/10/2003 by ariadne]
[Edited on 22/10/2003 by ariadne] ____________________
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Tvileren
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posted on 25/10/2003 at 07:49 AM |
The article writes that the husband claimes that he follows his wifes
wishes, if so she should be allowed to die.
But this discussion has been on another forum and I will quote a person
from there
quote:
I doubt any person in
the argument is capable of making a rational decision. The parents are
obviously willing to accept anything as a sign that she is aware. The
husband is willing to refuse that anything is a sign that she is aware. If
there is brain activity, maybe she is, maybe she isn't. But if she
expressed a desire not to be kept in a vegetative state, that desire should
be honored. There is likely independent corroboration for such a statement.
If there is no corroboration, perhaps the parent should win. But how many
of you would want to be a vegetable?
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ariadne
Member Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 25/10/2003 at 09:15 AM |
while it is understandable that living in a vegetable state would not
really be the desirable way to live for anyone. there is no argument on
that one. of course the parents are not ready to let go of their daughter.
they have not been able to come to terms yet with saying good bye for the
final time. in this case though the husband's motives have to be questioned
just a little. he has insurance money to gain in the event of terri's
demise , it is just a little suspicious. while he says it was what terri
would have wanted , there is no evidence that is true, it is only according
to him. he is also living with another woman who is believed to be
pregnant. even though it would seem that to die would be anyone's choice in
this situation the husband's motives are definitely in question.
the brain is not completely dead in a vegetative state so it is hard to
know what really goes on in terri's mind. the brain is still a mystery,
humans do not even use half of their brains, so there is no scientific
proof that docs have any idea of what terri is experiencing.medicine is not
an exact science and neurology is still in its infancy. ____________________
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