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Author: Subject: Belief-o-matic

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  posted on 15/9/2003 at 12:21 PM
Squid, I know of at least 6 shinto shrines in California, so it is being practiced somewhere besides Japan. But since it isnt a "religion" (seperation of life from beliefs) I can sorta understand a religious site leaving it out.
I also know of 10 Pow-wow sites, and a zillion (total exageration) sweatlodges. But i am not fussing because they "forgot" all the Native American Faith groups, the South American faith groups, the African faith groups, the Austrailian and New Zeland faith groups, or any of the other Eastern or Islander faith groups.
I jsut wanted to point out that this quiz is based on a "good/evil-god/devil" ideology.

Dead-cell, I would guess that Unitarian gets top billing because its the most inclusive of the Dualistic religions? Because it says you can believe just about anything as long as you beleive that there is a (and i repeat A) "higher power" and that you belong to it.

 

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  posted on 15/9/2003 at 12:22 PM
Bettie.... Dont start Ok? I know I said I would stop, but hey, everyone has to have thier little addictions, right?

 

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  posted on 15/9/2003 at 05:01 PM
Callei, I must admit I am unaware of any Shinto shrines in the US but I can't say I'm too suprised (especially in California). Perhaps I wasn't chosing my words wisely but I meant that at least 90% of the world's Shintos are in Japan (and of course that statistic is pure conjecture but would be greatly suprised if it was incorrect).

Yoo say that Shinto is not a religion and I don't know enough about it to dispute that point but Buddhism appears on the list. If Buddhism appears, why not Freemasonry or some form of martial arts? Freemasonry is certainly more "religious" and undoubtably more dualistic than Buddhism.

I think yoo are very correct that the test is dominated by dualistic forms of thought. However, Hinduism, Unitarianism, and Neo-Paganism are NOT dualistic faiths (well at least Neo-Pagan isn't SUPPOSED to be but there are plenty of Neo-Pagans who are very binary-headed).

Unitarianism was ONCE a form of Xianity but it certainly isn't anymore. From my personal relationships to a large amount of active members Unity Church, the nation's second largest Unitarian church, I can assure yoo that there are an overwhelming amount of pantheistic and sometimes even polytheistic (although they would rarely use such terms) Unitarians.

Unity, which is one of the "churchiest" Unitarian churches in the country (although being raised Roman Catholic didn't appear "churchy" in the least) had alot of controversy a few years back because they had adopted a new minister who used the word "God" before the congregation.

And yes, I have my addictions as well.

 

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i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to die so i could watch, and then me die.

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  posted on 15/9/2003 at 06:19 PM
1.  Theravada Buddhism (100%)
2.  Unitarian Universalism (93%)
3.  Neo-Pagan (88%)
4.  Mahayana Buddhism (84%)
5.  Liberal Quakers (82%)
6.  Secular Humanism (82%)
7.  New Age (81%)
8.  Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (78%)
9.  Taoism (58%)
10.  Reform Judaism (56%)
11.  New Thought (53%)
12.  Jainism (51%)
13.  Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (50%)
14.  Scientology (50%)
15.  Nontheist (49%)
16.  Orthodox Quaker (49%)
17.  Sikhism (47%)
18.  Hinduism (45%)
19.  Bahá'í Faith (43%)
20.  Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (33%)
21.  Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (26%)
22.  Jehovah's Witness (25%)
23.  Orthodox Judaism (22%)
24.  Seventh Day Adventist (18%)
25.  Islam (18%)
26.  Eastern Orthodox (13%)
27.  Roman Catholic (13%)

Damn. Maybe I ned to rethink my strategy if I am going to become the next pope. Can you think of anyone else who runs a country inside a city? Plus those tentlike robes with all the pretty embroidering are way cool.

 

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  posted on 16/9/2003 at 06:56 AM
Lots of the buddhism practiced in China isnt Buddhism in the religious sense, rather a lable attached to the older pantheonistic anamistic ancestor whorship faith that is commonly practiced. The west calls it Buddhism, but they dont.
and some forms of hinduism are very dualistic. Its an older and more practiced (by tradtions and lifestyle) religion than Christianity and look at all the variations of Christianity that we have had over the years. I am refering to the Unitarian thing here and comparing it with say Catholicism (of which there are soooo many form, often called Catholicism, tho the participants worship the virgin mary for example) and Quakers. They have things in common, but its hard to say that someone that follows one version of Christianity beleives any of the same things that someone else following a different version believes.

next thing you know, we will launch out about what is religoin and what is faith.....

 

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  posted on 16/9/2003 at 04:46 PM
I'm with Callei on this one: some forms of Hindu are dualistic. Ever heard of the demon Ravana? He's pretty much the equivalent to Shai'tan in the Abrahamic faiths and is found in a several Hindu myths.

I still got to yet read the book I have on Tibetian Buddhism...

 

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  posted on 16/9/2003 at 04:48 PM
I really do not know where the "dualism" in the East sprang from, but I think a lot of the western dualistic themes came from Zoroastrianism. Again, could be wrong.
 

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  posted on 16/9/2003 at 05:13 PM
1. Mahayana Buddhism (100%)
2. Hinduism (87%)
3. Neo-Pagan (85%)
4. Theravada Buddhism (83%)
5. Unitarian Universalism (79%)
6. Jainism (77%)
7. New Age (75%)
8. Liberal Quakers (68%)
9. Taoism (67%)
10. New Thought (66%)
11. Scientology (54%)
12. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (52%)
13. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (51%)
14. Reform Judaism (51%)
15. Sikhism (50%)
16. Secular Humanism (41%)
17. Orthodox Quaker (41%)
18. Bahá'í Faith (39%)
19. Nontheist (25%)
20. Orthodox Judaism (24%)
21. Seventh Day Adventist (20%)
22. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (13%)
23. Islam (13%)
24. Jehovah's Witness (12%)
25. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (6%)
26. Eastern Orthodox (0%)
27. Roman Catholic (0%)

Well, that surprised me. I think Taoism is the best thing since sliced bread, so I guess me being a Mahayan Buddihist is pretty accurate. Buddhist with their chanting is cool and... Sorry, getting off topic. Um, isn't Taoism a philosophy and not a religion though? And what is considered "New Age?" I'm going to have to explore this site more...

So says the theology major!

 

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~Chuang Tsu

 

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  posted on 16/9/2003 at 05:26 PM
I never considered New Age a religion at all - just those fun tools like astrology, Tarot, etc. Those came from many other cultures though. Could be wrong, though.

I agree. Was very surprised that Taoism wasn't in the bigger areas since it's what I heavily look upon. However, Mahayana Buddhism -might- have done it since a lot of Eastern religions use a lot of Tao.

Something about the site was not right, heh.

 

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  posted on 17/9/2003 at 05:50 AM
1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Neo-Pagan (87%)
3. Liberal Quakers (87%)
4. Secular Humanism (80%)
5. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (79%)
6. New Age (71%)
7. Theravada Buddhism (69%)
8. Reform Judaism (64%)
9. Mahayana Buddhism (63%)
10. Taoism (61%)
11. Bahá'í Faith (57%)
12. Nontheist (54%)
13. New Thought (53%)
14. Sikhism (52%)
15. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (47%)
16. Scientology (47%)
17. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (43%)
18. Orthodox Quaker (41%)
19. Jainism (33%)
20. Orthodox Judaism (33%)
21. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (32%)
22. Hinduism (28%)
23. Eastern Orthodox (23%)
24. Islam (23%)
25. Roman Catholic (23%)
26. Jehovah's Witness (17%)
27. Seventh Day Adventist (17%)


this was all kinds of messed up... either that or I'm all kinds of messed up... I think as far as atheism goes, they're calling it Secular Humanism...

 

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