Merry_Widow
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posted on 22/10/2004 at 11:04 PM |
| Bullshit. Just because someone dresses in a provocative manner, does not
mean that they will fuck the first person that looks at them. A short skirt
and low-cut top does not a promiscuous person make. ____________________
Okay, dazzle me.
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bettie_x
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posted on 23/10/2004 at 12:40 AM |
| If you want sexy just look up the law of the forbidden. Don't blare your
appeal through a loudspeaker, just let your skirt ride a little higher than
it should on "accident" and let the ensuing rumors say it for you. Nobody
likes an unwrapped gift, and nobody I know can resist the agony of
anticpation when the wrapper is peeled back in one place just enough to
trigger the imagination of "ooo...what's under THERE?!" ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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callei
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posted on 23/10/2004 at 06:08 AM |
This arguement always bothers me since the people having it dont cover
themselves head to toe and shun all make up and hair dye. Its that old
arguement "well "I" dont dress like a ho, I just like red lipstick, dark
eyes, bed tossled hair, tight pants/short skirts, and shirts that fit."
your average crack whore wears jeans and a T-shirt when they are
working.
Your average streetwalker wears something easy to get in and out of, like
shorts and a t, a short dress, or something like that.
Your average brothel worker wears panties and a tank top.
So any woman that wears jeans and a T-shirt is dressing like a crack whore?
a summer dress means you want to look like a stretwalker? those tanktop and
panty sets that Gap sells are "prostitute" clothes?
The females that put more time and effort into thier "costume" and wear
loads of make up, match thier shoes to thier purse, and wear the "right"
bra for that shirt arent trying to look like whores. They dont go out
shopping and ask each other "does this make me look enough like a crack
addict?" They ask "does this make my butt look fat?" and "do you think this
will go with that red top I have?", just like the rest of us do.
Any clothing that you put on to be street legal is a costume anyways. so
what does it really matter if that costume is "soccor mom" (fitted slack
(that show off the ass, plung neck shirt, fitted with wonder bra with
cleavage enhansment, and little sandals with painted toenails and an
anklet) or "runway on a buget" (short skirt with sheer stockings, same
pluge neck fitted top and bra, but with more bra showing, and boots that
cover the possibly painted toes) the short skirt one isnt showing as much
as the soccor mom is really.
If you REALLY look, I mean take off the social blinders and LOOK at what
"respectable", grown women are wearing, and compare it to what teenagers
are wearing, you will see that the kids have a LOOOONG way to go before
they are as slutty as thier seniors.
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Real goths wear silver and crosses to keep the werewolves and vampires
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pale-face
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posted on 23/10/2004 at 10:28 AM |
quote:
The females that put
more time and effort into thier "costume" and wear loads of make up, match
thier shoes to thier purse, and wear the "right" bra for that shirt arent
trying to look like whores.
Yes, All of that makes sense, but who is it that puts the time and
conscious effort into thinking weather or not what they wear appeals to
some one. since when did girls (or anyone for that matter) have to justify
themselves by dressing a certain way? ____________________
fucking classy.
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 23/10/2004 at 10:46 AM |
| Well, some people would feel the need to explain or justify their manner of
dress when some random idiot calls them a whore or a hooker for looking as
they do. ____________________
Okay, dazzle me.
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 23/10/2004 at 11:06 AM |
| I'll wear a shorter skirt and a tighter top with a low neckline and boots
every now and then, usually when I am going out to a club or something in
the evening, but just because I do does not make me a hooker or prostitute.
Frankly I just feel good in the clothes. I wasn't allowed to wear such
"provacative" clothing before, but now I can wear what I want to. It makes
me feel good to be able to wear what I wish to wear. I'm not going out
looking to get laid by everyone, hell I don't even like the boys who are
probably giving me the most attention, but I just want to feel good in my
own skin and know that I am a beautiful woman who has the right to choose
her own clothing. I wouldn't mind getting hit on by a lovely young woman
while in the clothes, but I wouldn't mind getting hit on by the same woman
in my frumpy clothes. Hell, I would feel better with a woman hitting on me
in my frumpy clothes. That means she looked past the bare skin and the
make up and saw me. ____________________
"People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life…I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
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pale-face
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posted on 23/10/2004 at 04:20 PM |
I believe we have had a misunderstanding. I have no problem with people
wearing clothing to feel comfortable, or another reason. but when people
start dressing in less clothing than I wear in underwear. I don't see how
that is considered sexually appealing, or fashionable in any manner.
'discretion is the better part of valour' – anon.
[Edited on 23/10/2004 by pale-face] ____________________
fucking classy.
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 23/10/2004 at 10:37 PM |
So you don't care what people wear as long as they are comfortable. But
your state of uncaring extends only to the point that they wear more
clothing than you wear in underwear.
What if someone is perfectly comfortable and happy wearing a bikini-cut
bottom of some sort and some cleverly placed electrical tape? Is she to be
thought a slut, hooker, or crack whore because she is choosing to reveal
more than you prefer? ____________________
Okay, dazzle me.
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pale-face
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posted on 24/10/2004 at 06:54 PM |
| if that's why they find comfortable, all the power to them. Mind you if
someone is wearing something to that nature it's not to say they are trying
to look like a hooker, but it's not exactly as if they are trying to be
conservative... by any means. ____________________
fucking classy.
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/10/2004 at 08:21 PM |
| pale-face... no offence man... what this boils down to is - clothing has
nothing to do with this... you have a bit of a puritanical view on all this
it is the humanbody... it is beautiful... and if you cannot accept that...
then please... accept anyone's right to dress how they wish... an old
cliche fits here... don't judge a book by its cover... read a few pages
before you decide what's inside.... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 25/10/2004 at 02:16 AM |
How true, Feral. In my experience, it's not always the ones who wear the
least who are really looking to get the most men in their pants. In other
words, it's not the clothes, it's the mindset that makes a hooker-wannabe.
Other than that, if wearing the legal minimum of decent clothing makes
someone happy, why the hell should I care? What on earth is so offensive
about skin, anyway? Just remember, our cover-me-up, modesty based culture
isn't the only one under the sun. There are whole masses of cultures where
people ran around in their birthday suits all the live-long day, and
thought nothing of it, until the missionaries came along and taught them
shame. But if someone you meet on your street somehow manages to elude
that monster Shame, without becoming one of those pathetic creatures who
can't live with themselves if men aren't drooling all over their bodies,
then I say go for it. I wish I could. But I'm just proud of myself that
I've shaken off my super-Puritanical upbringing enough to feel comfortable
in somewhat form-fitting clothing with a touch of cleavage showing. That's
a big step for me, and I still feel most comfortable in a couple of bulky
layers. And that's not a healthy thing. I should feel comfortable
layered, and next-to-naked. Maybe I'll get there someday.
[Edited on 10/25/2004 by Schizo] ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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RedQueen
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posted on 25/10/2004 at 08:46 AM |
| I agree; it's not necessarily the clothes that make someone sexy or not,
it's the attitude of the wearer. Plenty of people can be drop dead sexy
completely clothed from neck to ankle. Plenty of people who wear
"revealing" clothing aren't necessarily putting out the sex signal (kind of
like the Bat signal, only in a pinkish red?). Sexy, like beauty, is in the
eye of the ogler. ____________________
Today's liberals are tomorrow's conservatives. When my generation is the
conservatives, we'll be fine letting gays get married and creationism vs.
evolution in schools will be a laughable issue.
But by god we'll be sticking it to the damn cyborgs!
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pale-face
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posted on 25/10/2004 at 03:40 PM |
| I guess your all right. people can wear what they like but it's more about
their attitude that makes them promiscuous or not. please excuse my
juvenile attitude toward the subject. ____________________
fucking classy.
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 25/10/2004 at 09:33 PM |
Pale face I'm not dogging on you at all, I'm just putting my two cents in.
Promiscuity isn't a bad thing. Most of the ideals I've heard from people
is that if a girl puts out on the first or second date, then she's a slut
regardless of dress, but if she doesn't put out on the first or second date
she's a bore, or a prude, or an ice queen.
The original problem is that promiscuity=bad. It's not, if you take care
of yourself and those you are promiscuious with. Promiscuity is only "bad"
(to me) if it's careless and endangers the partners of the person.
As for nakedness, I don't care either one way or the next. I generally
don't LIKE seeing naked people, as people are wierd-looking. But I'd
rather see a half naked and confident person than an uncomfortable one in
neck to ankles garment as any society deems.
But if you want MY opinion on straight out sex appeal, I find well dressed
"soccer-moms" with their "tasteful" yet "accidentally" revealing V-neck
sweaters and heels a LOT more appealing than half dressed teenage girls
with the latest aresenal of low ride jeans and water bras. And I find a
half naked island girl who doesn't posess the 'perfect body' most people
idealize and who doesn't CARE but who is being comfortable a LOT more sexy
than a self conscious strutting young 20 something in a "LOOK AT ME" string
bikinni and belly piercing.
I think in my opinion that sex appeal ends when whatever fashion it applies
to demands to be looked at. I like my sex appeal in the unconscious form,
thank you.
And lets bring the boys into this, shall we? To quote the memorable queen
of the bulging bustline herself Dolly Parton (in "Rhinestone"...shut up)
"what's wrong with the way I dress? When you stop wearing pants I can see
your pulse through, then you can talk." ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Moinlen_Drigenu
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posted on 25/10/2004 at 09:55 PM |
sexy, and not sexy.. For a lady to be sexy she must dress, not overly
sexy, maybe a bit of skin here and there. I hate those people who were
clothes to small for them, that make their stomach flop out, real eye sore.
Something that hugs their figure is good, but not something that looks to
small. Black is a great colour for any occasion. They need to be able to
look at me and not look away all the time.
 ____________________
"It is said that we loose ourselves in rage, I think I find what is
missing, when it happens."
"These scars are just for show, it's the ones inside that you have to worry
about."
"When I get into a fight, all I think is..."KILL HIM"..."
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 25/10/2004 at 10:54 PM |
I love Ms. Dolly...
"It takes a lot of money to look this cheap." ____________________
Okay, dazzle me.
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Schizo
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posted on 26/10/2004 at 02:02 AM |
Preach it, Bettie!
Although I'd like to add that there's an emotional pitfall to promiscuity,
too. Beyond the dangers of being stupid about protection, there's also a
danger of being so emotionally addicted to sex, that you don't feel
worthwhile if someone isn't lusting after you constantly. That's what
drives many skimpy dressers, and that's the icky vibe that people pick up
on.
Oh, and another icky vibe comes from those who would do anything to get
laid, even stab their best friend in the back.
The problem is, people pick up on these vibes, and because many of these
icky people are dressing provocatively, people project the source of the
ickiness to the clothing they wear. And then, when they see a healthy,
confident person who enjoys the beauty of themselves, and likes sex and
sexual attention in healthy doses, and is happening to be wearing something
fairly revealing, they project all those icky vibes onto that person. It's
sad, but all too common, that icky people ruin things for all the rest of
us. ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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pale-face
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posted on 26/10/2004 at 06:11 PM |
| icky vibe's... I hate them because they are all to common in my life. damn
people and their overwhelming desire to get laid. I wonder if they even
realize that they have abandon everything to get in bed. ____________________
fucking classy.
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Schizo
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posted on 27/10/2004 at 02:17 AM |
Well, wanting to get laid is perfectly natural, and if you can accomplish
it, then go for it. If it's being done with honesty and respect for
yourself and your accomplice/s, then I'm not going to be the one to look
down my nose.
Of course, I'm all talking in theory here. I'm the world's last
monogamist, and I'm not talking serial monogamist either. Although
technically, I'm allowed to have girlfriends, but there are no yummy
bi's/lesbians in my life who find me equally yummy, and even if there were,
I'm not so sure that I would actually end up acting on it. Being a
full-time working mom of a toddler, I'm lucky if schedule and energy level
allow me a little Sunday-night nookie with the hubby. There isn't room in
my life for a little fun on the side with a cuddly girl. And besides, as I
said, I'm the world's last true monogamist, and my chemistry just doesn't
seem to be reacting properly with anyone, male or female (except the
afore-mentioned hubby on a Sunday night), so I have my doubts about my
abilities to transform into bisexual sex-goddess on command. *sigh* Oh
well, it sounded fun in theory. ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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bettie_x
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posted on 27/10/2004 at 10:23 AM |
Schitzo, you're not the world's last mongamist, trust me. How's this story
suit you? Girl hates everyone and involves herself with nobody until she
meets someone in college, starts dating said first boyfriend, marries first
boyfriend, and has no interest in anyone but boyfriend turned husband, and
has a successful and happy relationship going on 7 years? Sounds like a
freak of nature to me, but eh, it's the story of my life  ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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