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  posted on 18/1/2003 at 05:31 PM
Just a random thought, but well...
whilst perusing the chat rooms of MSN (yes, it was late and no one was online, I was bored!) I discovered a distinct trend in the name of not just the chat rooms but the chatters themselves.
Virtually all of the 'goth' chatrooms are named, for example 'Ye Dark Tavern', 'Forest of Magick' etcetera. Usually something medieval, or pretty much any dark place with an 'e' tacked on the end.
As for the chatters, 90% of them have written their names with confusing, elaborate fonts and named themselves after mythical creatures of completely random words altogether. At first I didnt notice it - it was hard to make out anything between the squiggles and foreign lettering. But then I realised, well, they were frequently just a jumble of letters. Also, lots of 'lady' 'faerie' 'lords' etc.
Is this the 'gothic' thing? Whenever I've gone into these chatrooms and enquired, they've kicked me out rather than explaining. Except for the one exception when one girl announced "there are no goth trends, I'm unique!". It might have passed if only her name wasnt almost exactly the same as ten others in the room.
I feel free to post about it here because I've only seen, if I remember correctly, one case of this. But why is this weird lettering so popular? Why are all the names mythical or make no sense? I just dont understand the connection betwen 'Quaedryate' - thats the version without all the thingamys - and erm, 'gothness'.
Bah.

 

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  posted on 18/1/2003 at 06:37 PM
I have nothing to say on this topic other than to compliment you on your brilliant use of the word "thingamys"

 

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  posted on 18/1/2003 at 09:37 PM
hmmmmmmm.......
 

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  posted on 19/1/2003 at 06:05 AM
I must admit that, while afflicted with extreme boredom, I have ventured into that murky land known as the "goth chatroom".

Chatroom goths are almost categorically the most judgemental, illogical, superiority-complex-ridden people I have ever come across, except, perhaps the chatroom Christians.

Most of the conversations consisted of how much the person hated life, or how stupid other groups were.

I tried to introduce a few elements of logic and sanity. I'm sure that everyone was happy to have someone to label as "not really goth." If only they knew how I "didn't really care."

And yes, I've noticed how chatroom goths love to use handles that are painfully creative. It seems they put a tragic amount of effort into being different, considering that they end up nearly identical.

 

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  posted on 19/1/2003 at 11:41 AM
Hard to say where the faux mediaeval thing comes from, Erish... although I have heard that a great way to meet women is to go to your local Renaissance Faire and have "Raven" paged. Generally speaking, a solid quarter of the fairgoers will show up at the information booth to find out who was asking for them.

Chatrooms are, as a rule, vast untapped reservoirs of self indulgence, so I am not remotely surprised to hear that they have an abundance of superfluous letters floating around attaching themselves like barnacles to the screen names of passersby. There must be a causal explanation for it, but until I can get some goffs into my laboratory and distill them down into their constituent elements (I'm guessing it is 45% angst, 45% FD&C Black #3, and 10% trace elements) I can really only hypothesize. I'll let you know when I'm ready to publish my findings in the Amerikane Journale of ye Medicyne. Until then, I am

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  posted on 19/1/2003 at 12:27 PM
Oh, jesus, you approached them all wrong. I have been going to MSN chats forever, and I am usually drawn to the Satanic chats. I know how to deal with these fuckers. Just AIM me and we'll discuss.

 

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  posted on 19/1/2003 at 06:17 PM
please , please, please can i be your lab assistant? PLEASE?????? I can help round them up! or maybe just the disinfectant/decontamination processes? Gimme some rubber gloves, a quota, and a VNV cd and i can have 'em to you in a matter of hours.


and for a bit of fun at the ren faires, try paging wolf after you page raven.... matching making at its easiest and most scary.

 

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  posted on 19/1/2003 at 08:54 PM
I don't know, if we page Wolf it might be to confusing for old Mono.

As for the hypothetical makeup of a goth, I think you are allowing for far to many trace elements. I figure you have at least 2% hairspray and 1%makeup, maybe 3% leather and then maybe 5% trace elements.

If you do go desecting goths can I have the skulls for candleholders?

 

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  posted on 20/1/2003 at 04:43 PM
Callei: Of course you can be my lab assistant. The wheezing, Slavic hunchback that I had been using is about to get the boot anyway... he keeps bringing back the wrong brains when I send him out.

DK: Your projection only accounted for 11% of a goff. I'm not sliding any crania your way until you fix the bookkeeping error that makes a goff 89% dark matter (although now that I think of it... it would reconcile a few things).

To Whom It May Concern: I am not going to fall for the fake page again!

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  posted on 20/1/2003 at 05:37 PM
Personally I tend to think it's a large group of petulant, whiny look-at-me's. The more cryptic and detailed a call-sign, apparently the more mysterious, wonderful and unique the person...whatever. My own research in the matter was short lived as I'm generally booted out something fierce within the first five minutes. Maybe it's just me, but something about just those names makes me want to rub powedered glass in their eyes. Of course thats being judgemental, which is bad...ah fuck it, who am I kidding? Fuck them, fuck them in their stupid goat asses. Subtsance and intelligence are so amazingly rare in those Ye Olde Hoopajoos that spending to much time around them can literally prove infectious...an Internet Communicable Disease of sorts...we should burn 'em all and let god sort 'em out.
Or maybe thats just my Preacher side speaking out, they could just be bored, simple people having their way of fun...which is fine, but still stupid.

 

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  posted on 20/1/2003 at 06:43 PM
the more complex the name, spelling, and pronounciation the more free time they have on their hands....usually they have that much free time for a reason.
I went into ONE goth chat room ONCE....and stayed only long enough to make everyone there and their dog thoroughly HATE ME. Usually it was after some dipshit named "lord of the weeping absinthe sipping self loathing panty pissers" got me to turn on his cam and prompted me to laugh at him so hard over VC that the little tech geek flooded my comp with IM bombs.
I usually stick to the satanism rooms. They still suck tho, never seen a bunch of ignorant fuckwits and half high christian evangelists bent on saving me one minute and telling me I'm going to hell the next.
Hence, I only enter the world of "chat" when I'm thoroughly drunk.
The net is always best after a few.

 

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  posted on 21/1/2003 at 02:12 AM
Back when I had mirc, I went into this room that was called something to the effect of french speaking goths or whatever...so I went in to be disruptive. They were speaking french and I just started saying stuff like "Can I have some French fries?", "I need a French maid.", "I want to French kiss." I thought they'd get pissed but they actually laughed. I didn't stay around.....cuz damnit I was trying to be disruptive. *lol*

 

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  posted on 21/1/2003 at 02:35 PM
“Goffs" were a old Germanic tribe aye? Fanciful names I say may just come from that tradition...either that or it’s another “goffic” cliche. Well, to be honest, my aolim s/n does follow that cliche...still, it’s catchy. I just don’t chat online much so I don't care much for the issue. heh.

 

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  posted on 21/1/2003 at 06:40 PM
Yeah, I have been a patron of these chats before. Whenever I get bored I go to them just to get some kicks. Funny to watch what the other people do, also it gets my creative juices flowing....sounds gross...hehe.

 

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  posted on 22/1/2003 at 11:50 AM
I normally just ignore anybody whose name is something like ~^^\%^~B0B~^/%^^~ on basic principle, so I don't really have much insight into what makes them tick, but I bet it has something to do with cutting themselves and pouring the blood into a goblet then drinking it so they can be a vampire.

Or is that Vampyre, what is the proper term for a someone that is a moron?

Oh wait, that's it, it's "Moron".

 

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  posted on 22/1/2003 at 06:10 PM
They're judgemental little bastards too. God forbid you don't weep at the moon and wear pewter evything. I was there one time, discussing (or making a valiant attempt) Existentialism, and I got attacked because I told them I didn't wear black anymore. I said yeah, I like retro clothing from the 70's like polyester and cords, and sometimes I'll wear all black suits. Of course to any well read scholar of the goth pages, I was now a poser and a loser, and the concept that I can like the occult and wear blue or yellow is evil. In a bad way. This was enough to teach me the obvious level of inteligence I was dealing with. Liking retro=no gothness. period. Fuck em all.

 

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  posted on 23/1/2003 at 05:22 PM
I'm hoping that last comment was tongue-in-cheek, Squire. I would hate to be the one to point out the irony in making a statement like "They're judgemental little bastards too".

~M.

 

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  posted on 23/1/2003 at 10:54 PM
You know me too well. I can't really complain about them; one sect of "gothness" is just as respectable as the next in my opinion. They're angry, though. Oh well. Live and let live.

 

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  posted on 24/1/2003 at 12:56 PM
That's always a sound philosophy. Unless you're Paul McArtney.

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  posted on 24/1/2003 at 01:02 PM
Hmm. I misspelled the hell out of McCartney's name. I think I had him confused in my mind with Art McGarfunkel. Of course, in this forum, I could simply put an "e" on the end of it and say I am being goffik. Goffike? Goffique? Coffee? Coughing? Ah well... perhaps another day.

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