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Squire-of-Gothos
Fanatic   Posts: 206 Registered: 1/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/1/2003 at 12:10 AM |
I have a little story I would like to share with you all, and try and get
some advice on what the lead character should do. Mind you this is real,
and my friend is in need of help, so any advice is apreciated.
Six months ago my friend, we'll call him Richard, broke up with his
girlfriend, we'll call her Heather. Heather did not take it well. In fact
she took it shitty. It began with her attempts at getting him back. When
she asked him why they broke, he gave her a straight simple answer, "I
don't love you anymore and I ended the relationship" she refuses to accept
this as a valid answer, and says it DOESN'T MAKE SENSE....???
Now 6 months later her repetuar of mind numbing insanity is as follows;
She follows him everywhere.
She call him at all hours of the day and night.
She goes nuts if she even thinks he's hanging out with another girl.
She got his email password and read his emails, some of which where about
her, and threatened to kill herself.
She jumps in his lap every time another girl walks into the vacinity.
She has shown Paranoid delusions and Narcasism toward everyone around him,
believing we are out to get Richard a new girlfriend and making him stay
away from Heather.
This girl (and guy) is 18 and shes never held a job, never spent a micron
of time in a colledge, and dropped out of high school. She has admitted
that the reason her life is devoid of meaning and going no where is so she
can spend as much time around Richard as possible.
Richard wants to tell her mother about the suicide talk, but the mother is
neither supportive nor understanding, and from what I've heard would
probably insult her instead of talk about it. Richard would also like to go
straight out and tell to get a life and fuck off, but she has a very
fragile mental condition as can be seen.
Whats a guy to do? ____________________
“The only thing that can alter the good writer is death.”
“You know that if I were reincarnated, I’d want to come back a buzzard.
Nothing hates him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can eat
anything.”
Faulkner
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/1/2003 at 08:10 AM |
He's got to get rid of her. Fuck her "frail mind", she's a wack. And it
won't stop either, unless he doesn't something hard, brutal, and final.
Her insanity isn't his problem, so he shouldn't allow her to MAKE it his
problem.
If it comes to it, he should get a restraining order if she wigs out when
he OFFICIAL dumps her. Which she will, I can guarantee you this, I've seen
it before.
If he allows this to continue by NOT putting his foot down (preferrably on
her head) then he's just as responsible when his future relationships are
ruined, he gets hurt, or something worse happens. These people know no
bounds. It's like setting off a roman candle in your hand and forgetting
which end is up.
He needs to change his email address and quit letting her read his emails,
he needs to stop or continue to refuse her calls or change his number or
have her's blocked, and for a while perhaps avoid social situations she may
be involved with.
It's his life, and he needs to take charge of it, or suffer the
consequences of his own inaction.
I hope it works out. Crazy bitches are the worst kind of bitches out
there. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/1/2003 at 11:27 AM |
Goddamn. Deja-vu all over again. I know a bitch like her.
If he doesn't put his foot down NOW she will take control of his life and
NEVER let go! The longer he puts it off, the harder it will be later. He
should just thank his lucky stars that he doesn't have kids with her, like
my boyfriend does with her clone. Cuz then he would never get rid of
her.
He needs to make himself hard as nails. Don't give in an INCH! She will
take advantage of every opportunity she gets. Be CRUEL if needed - it's
not really cruelty, it's waking her up to reality.
No one should surrender their life to a parasite.
If she kills herself, it's her fault, not his. Sounds hard, but it's true.
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Squire-of-Gothos
Fanatic Posts: 206 Registered: 1/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/1/2003 at 09:10 PM |
| Its a damn shame. No matter how many times I tell him what he needs to do,
it all ends in bullshit. I came to his house today and she was there
hanging out. What kind of Nazi philosophy is he using? The devil you know
is better than the devil you don't know? I shouldn't have even made tis
post, its a total catastrophy. He is normally a very strong guy, who stands
by his opinions and beliefs steadfast, but she is like some sort of
Krytonite. I quit, either she blows her brains out, or she falls deeper and
deeper into obsession, and who knows where that leads. ____________________
“The only thing that can alter the good writer is death.”
“You know that if I were reincarnated, I’d want to come back a buzzard.
Nothing hates him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can eat
anything.”
Faulkner
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/1/2003 at 09:58 PM |
Yeah, if he wants to be a jelly-fish and be used and be a door-mat, there's
not much you can do. Unless you want to dedicate your entire life and
every waking moment (and quite a few sleeping ones, too) to putting a spine
in your friend. I did that for my boyfriend, and it took a year and a
half, and more pain than I would want to put my worst enemy through, to
rescue him. And even now, she pulls all sorts of shit. And because of the
kids, we let some of it go, and I hate it, and he hates it too, but what
can you do when kids are involved? I would die to make a complete
split.
But I don't suppose you want to dedicate your life to levering your friend
out of the mud he's allowed himself to be trampled into. Maybe if you
leave him to himself (and herself), he get sickened enough to actually
stand up for himself. It happens sometimes. Everyone has their breaking
point.
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DarkMistress
Member   Posts: 170 Registered: 6/6/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/1/2003 at 10:56 PM |
| My brother has this problem with a girl named Jessica. Eh, my names
Jessica *gasp* we're not all psychos! But she calls him all the time and
tells him she's going to kill herself if he doesn't get back with her.
Sometimes she even has her friend Katie call saying that she's threatening
to kill herself and they should get back together. He plays along telling
her she should use a chainsaw and other such things, and finally she just
sort of stopped calling. Anyway, if you're friend doesn't put his foot
down he wont get anywhere, and I agree with Schizo. ____________________
"Pity no one was there
No angels in the air
And the morning paper ran
One more suicide"
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Monolycus
Fanatic  Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 12:00 AM |
I'm going to have to ditto what Bettie, Schizo and DM said here. It is
rough and it is unpleasant but some people not only refuse to better their
situations, they will drag everyone that they come into contact down with
them. I have written off both friends and family members in the past for
this kind of crap. I have been on the receiving end of the stalktastic
romance and I can tell you from any perspective: They will not come around
on their own. You say your piece and do not listen to the emotional
blackmail. It is all grotesque manipulation. If you do not stand your
ground and refuse to be a party to it, you will only feed their
sickness.
I have had countless people threaten to kill themselves at me (So far, none
of them have actually done so, but I would not blame myself for an instant
if they had.) S.E.P. Somebody Else's Problem. I have had people go to
extraordinary lengths to "get my attention" (One woman could not understand
why I was not impressed when she carved my name into her ankle with a
razorblade or left notes under my windshield wipers to let me know she had
followed me to work.) Also S.E.P. Seriously. Let them cry, manipulate,
mutilate themselves, stalk, telephone... if you do not cut them off
entirely, you are only feeding their sickness. Change your number(s) and
password(s) if you have to... tell the police so that their will be an
incidence report around in the event that they do something stupid and
illegal... but get rid of them. If your friend will not put his foot down,
then write him off. Harsh but necessary. Seen this too many times. Wish
I could give you happier advice, but there it is. I am
~Monolycus.
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 07:50 AM |
| .233 mm. Full metal jacket... ____________________
In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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Squire-of-Gothos
Fanatic Posts: 206 Registered: 1/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 12:55 PM |
Every once and a while I used to think It would be interesting to have a
woman obsessesed with me. Its sounds selfish and sort of manipulative and
evil, but I am what I am. (a great man said that) I really thought It might
be interesting to have someone pine over me, and put all of her crap aside
because she loved me so much. I'm not sure whether it was "Fatal Atraction"
or my friend Richard, but that thought is no longer cool.
I'm printing this out and showing it to my friend. ____________________
“The only thing that can alter the good writer is death.”
“You know that if I were reincarnated, I’d want to come back a
buzzard.
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Nothing hates him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can eat
anything.”
Faulkner
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fetish
Coward   Posts: 4 Registered: 3/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 03:33 PM |
I know Heather and i also know "Richard" and Heather is a passive, talk
shit behind your back little bitch. She may show commitment to stick to
Richard like gum on the bottom of his shoe but im ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY sure
she lacks the will power to commit suicide. Tell him to grow some cohones
and to kick her in the anus.
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fetish
Coward Posts: 4 Registered: 3/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 03:36 PM |
It's .223 mm .
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Squire-of-Gothos
Fanatic Posts: 206 Registered: 1/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 04:17 PM |
Why dont you, he's your friend too. And you know very well I told him to
kick her Amazon ass to the curb months ago. Taht bitch is nutz, plain and
simple, I say we need to talk to her, shes the source!!!!!!!!
and its not .233 mm or .223 mm, its .223 caliber, if it was .223 mm the
bullet would be the size of a BB, and a 9mm would be the size of a shooter
marble. lets get our shit togther people. sides, .44 magnum all the way
baby, most powerful hand gun in the world, fuck high powered rifles. ____________________
“The only thing that can alter the good writer is death.”
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“You know that if I were reincarnated, I’d want to come back a
buzzard.
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Nothing hates him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can eat
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anything.”
Faulkner
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fetish
Coward Posts: 4 Registered: 3/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 04:58 PM |
Brian eat my shorts ! ! ! ! ! ! Im editing and producing, the sound and
shooting i'll leave to you but only for the first then im doing the other
one. We will switch back and forth.
Heather is a bitch and i'll see you on the flip side homie beef.
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Squire-of-Gothos
Fanatic Posts: 206 Registered: 1/1/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 05:32 PM |
| As long as I am able to over see the editing, and we both agree how it is
is edited and what scenes are in or out, im fine with that. Hand over the
handle time pants! ____________________
“The only thing that can alter the good writer is death.”
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“You know that if I were reincarnated, I’d want to come back a
buzzard.
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Nothing hates him. He is never bothered or in danger, and he can
eat
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anything.”
Faulkner
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AloneSoul
Fanatic  Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/1/2003 at 10:06 PM |
| I had that problem with a person. She worried me a bit and so I had helped
her rather than shutting her out. It’s not as bad as your friends problem
but still, when you got phone calls every five minutes on the weekend while
trying to sleep, it gets annoying. I’d say, have your friend talk to the
person. Give her reassurance of herself, maybe convince her to get back to
school and make something or her life. That’s what I did with this person
and she’s doing a lot better, not spazzing out if I am not talking to her
and what not. I’m a more patient person in these sorts of situations, you
must help your friend find a reasonable solution from this problem, I for
one don’t take suicide threats to lightly, desperate people do desperate
things. ____________________
 but at least you know, just how much pain there is in living
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Shmooth
Member  Posts: 76 Registered: 23/1/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 9/3/2004 at 12:00 PM |
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!! AAAAAAAAAAHH! AIIIEEUUUUUSHSSHSTP!
AHOOOIIIWEYYYYYUUUURGH!! AAAAAHAAAAHHHAAAA..NO!!!!
I am not autistic,I swear.. but after reading this forum,I am making weird
noises. I feel very sick. I am unable to finish my third hotdog.
MAN MAN MAN MAN MAN MAN!! MAN!!! SHIT! FUCKING HELLISH DEMONS FROM HELL!!!
SHIT!!! NOOO!!!!! NO!! !! NO! NO! NO!! NNOOOO!!!!! AAAAAHHHH!!
Please,help. I dont feel so good. I feel dizzy. And Im shivering.
Extreme discomfort .. urgh .. fuck my spelling, Im just gonna let my
fingers move. That way, if they stop moving,I know Im dead.
I am so sickened I think Im gonna cry..and vomit.
*tries to flip open the lid of the ketchup,and gripps the ketchup while
doing it.The lid opens and ketchup splatters on the keyboard*
I fear, that if this guy doesnt do something quick, he's gonna walk away
from this situation (eventually) branded with the idea that women are short
and evil and manipulative creatures that cannot be trusted. Kind of like
smeagol in the lord of the rings, but in disguise.
I can relate to this guy! OH LET ME TELL YOU! SHIT!!
Look, I refuse to believe that this guy is just suffering from lack of
cohones. I feel there is a reason he is keeping her around.
First of all, I feel he has probably been raised to treat women a certain
way. He's more tolerable towards women, am I right?
And when this "girl" pulls this shit, he stops thinking and starts feeling.
Feeling that he needs to give her anything she displays a need for.
Does he have many women in his family? ..aunts etc..?
I take it this guy feels responsible for the welfare of women. I know I
do.
But I mean.. he does so excessively. If he is like me, he wishes he could
split himself up,and please all the women in the world(almost).
But he has a soft spot for women, especially when they show needs. I
do.
I remember playing tag in gym class with a sponge ball. (This was at an
age where I had started to develope strenght very rapidly,which I still
do,so I have a hard time keeping up with remembering how strong I am) and I
threw the ball real hard towards somebody in the corner of my eye (I was
really into the game), and when I turned around to see where the ball went,
it had hit this girl in the face. BAANG! *ECHO*
And I just froze. I couldnt move. I was so in shock over trying to realise
what had just happened, that I forgot to run up to her and ask her if she
was ok. She was crying real hard, and I was just standing there unable to
move. Not even when some one told me to go up to her and say sorry did I
fully come to my senses.
After what must have been 25 seconds later,I walked up to her.
I am like this whenever I see a woman hurt or in need.Im not saying I
freeze.Im saying my emotional reactions are extreme.
In turn, even the thought of a woman in some kind of need or trouble puts
me in that kind of state.
In daily life, any sign of weakness from a woman is unconsciously seen as
acceptable by me. Im not saying that crying is a sign of weakness, but that
crying over nothing is a weakness. In turn, I accpet excessive behaviour
from women.
Do you see where Im going with this?
When ever I see any kind of need ,I get so caught up in the thought of
tending to it,that I dont think about wether what the girl in question
displays need for is really called for.
Wether what that girl displays a need for is really acceptable.
Do you follow?
I feel that your friend is kind of the same way.
I mean, that girl could call his mum a whore, and he wouldnt smack her!
And the more need she shows, the more his psyche gets set on tending to
what she displays a need for!
This girl knows this about your friend, and she uses it!
What your friend needs to do is acknowledge that.
I mean,damn! Even the way women smell is enough to make me accept
excessive behaviour. Im serious! I mean..the way women smell, is just
DAMN.
And unconsciously, I feel like I own women. I am dominant,and I cant help
it.
Im not saying they're possessions.. But you know what I mean.
And if a woman Im with steps out of line, then that's MY woman stepping out
of line.
And for me to just stop thinking that a woman who's scent I have picked up,
is no longer mine.. I mean.. to "disclaim" a woman, is a hard thing.
In kindergarthen, I prefered to play with the girls. I've always been this
way,just on different levels of developement.
But there is a way passed this. And the way passed it is to realise that I
deserve a woman that can handle this knowledge about me, without abusing
it.
That's what your friend needs to do.
So I just tell my mouth to tell the girl to take her scent and navigate her
ass away from me. And I tell me legs to walk away.
That's what he needs to do.
And this is HARD! SOO HAARD TO DO. !
But it's something he needs to learn.
----------you can stop readin here, or keep reading.
What's more.. I own this girl..ehm...I know this girl, that I've turned
down after she lied to me about things, and her passed etc. And I wont
tolerate that. (she lied so that she could stay attractive in my eyes).
Whole series of lies. ex She lied saying she never had sex with anybody in
her bed. Which is a big deal to me.
This was at a time when our relationship was undefined in her eyes.. And
she didnt believe I was sincere in persuing her. She thought I just wanted
to screw her over or something.. I dunno. She thought I had too much going
for me to be interested in her.
Long story..
So now she keeps hacking my email account (I dont know how she does
this.but I know she has help).
And she says things like "I'd rather die than be without you.. if there is
a remote chance of being reunited with you in heaven".
Thank god I never slept with her!!
And I have a lot of her baby pictures..And I have her stuffed animal
too..
Long story.
And she wont let me return them.
And she keeps buying me gifts (even after I told her I dont want them,and I
had stopped accepting them).
She used to buy me roses in different colours every week.. And she bought
me face masks etc..(knowing I take good care of myself).
And she writes my name in the snow so that I can see..
And she lights candles and puts them in the snow shaping hearts.
She had this special place where she'd drop of gifts outside. In a secret
place.
Understand that this was a girl I would have died for. Even now, after she
has caused me SO MUCH (so fucking much!) pain.. I would still die for
her.
I told this girl all the secrets about my life.. and all my plans and
dreams.. And about my comedy. About all my ideas.. etc.. And now Im
afraid she might steal my ideas (cause I dont know if I can trust her).
I knew this girl for a long time.. Longer than I've ever known anyone,as a
friend, or as more than a friend.
You wouldnt believe me if I told you.. How much I loved her. It's
inconceivable. I mean it.
I mean.. most people "fall in love" because its convenient. We fell in love
because we couldnt help it. I couldnt help it. Everything about her..
Every fucking thing .. about her.. She was a poets dream.
I would tease her crazy.. to the point where she was going insane.. And
then I'd have her give me her panties.
Now I wish I hadnt.
Maybe I was stupid to think that she was confident enough to be honest with
me about who she was.
She kept telling me I'm too good to be true.
Though, she was the one too good to be true. And now Im stuck telling
myself that I should have fucking known better.
And if I didnt have a strong will, I'd be just like your friend.
Only, now Im scared she'll sell my ideas. But I dont think she's that
low.
I dont think she would want to ruin her imaginary chances of ever getting
with me.
I've told her that if she sells my ideas, she can forget about suicide,
because I will kill her.
hahaha..maybe I would. :-D
I am a drama queen. I bet I have more drama in my life than all of shmeng.
And I have even more drama I havent cashed in.
Anyways..your friend is not alone. ____________________
Jameel
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 9/3/2004 at 09:15 PM |
Jesus christ..... 
Even tho that was one of the most fucking WACK posts I've read so far, I
kinda feel sorry for your psychosis about women. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Shmooth
Member Posts: 76 Registered: 23/1/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/3/2004 at 04:25 AM |
Bettie - oh,thanks.
Just saying. He thinks his friend has fucking problems. He needs to shut
the eff up!! :-D ____________________
Jameel
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
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 posted on 10/3/2004 at 08:08 AM |
| Sounds like a stalker who needs to be restrained. ____________________
"People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life…I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/3/2004 at 10:58 AM |
| Well his friend DOES have a problem, one named heather and one named
"unable to cut the bitch loose". ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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