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Author: Subject: My teen angst and sexuality.

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  posted on 11/3/2003 at 09:38 PM
*hugs* Mono I love you

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 07:27 AM
I bang my hands in applause to you Monolycus.

And by the way: do you know that I am one year younger than you, Sticupus?

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 01:22 PM
Mono, I want you like I've never wanted anyone before...

And so Stic, as one of those socially and emotionally under developed teens, why don't you tell us again why you feel you are justified in this latest hissy fit?

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 02:24 PM
Whine whine...bitch bitch bitch, sniffle, whine whine, boo...sniff, whine whine, grouse grouse...bitch bitch bitch. snarl, hiss, whine whine, sniff...whine whine bitch.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 05:40 PM
It isn't a hissy fit, it is an opinion as I have stated previously.
Altariel- do you want a cookie?
Mono- you know perfectly well that observations do not improve situations or attitudes. I could make a few observations as well, but I am respecting your feelings and I want this to be a safe place for you.
The god comment was just to be funny, and a little cocky.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 07:12 PM
wow did this go catty. after all this is one MAN's voyage into self worth/discovery. I can see why he got so angry. I would too if i was told that i was a genetic dead end and could never hope to have kids "because i was made that way". that isnt a very nice thing to say if you dont know thier feelings about having kids.
also, just for the record adn all, science has more recently disproved that idea about homosexuality being from population pressure in mammals. that false information got about from limited observation of lions. with more observation done on the unattached males, it was found that homosexuality was the norm, even in low population areas. the "new" conclusion is that makelions have sex with each other for fun, and a few have sex with females out of biological imparative.
And no one said anyone here has to play nice with others. we arent here to "Accept" everyone. attacking bad logic is not something to yell at someone for, rather it is to be lauded. It shows that SOMEONE (other than mono) is living the examined life.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 07:52 PM
No, my dear Anonymous Coward, this is not about one boy's voyage into anything. It is listening to the same self-absorbed whining that has been going on and on and on at the expense of everyone and everything around him. This is not about examination, it is all about Stic... because EVERYTHING that anyone says in any public forum anytime is all about Stic. All the flowery prose in the world does not make a whiny, narcissistic teenager any less irritating to the rest of us. He will not become any better integrated until he realises that he is not the only person in the world and his "problems" are brought on himself. The only thing he is blossoming into is an intolerable drama queen.

And Stic, make any observations you want to. I've never felt threatened by a teenaged narcissisus, so I'm pretty sure that I'll be fine. Like all real people, I've had to go through my share of trauma and had to develop a coping skill or two. Just bear in mind that when you've had enough, you've already pulled the "I was only joking" and "I'm going through a tweek" cards. It might be a lot easier for everybody if you just went ahead and got over yourself, but I can't make you grow up if you are determined to wallow in your arrested self-pity.

~M.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 08:11 PM
And the most irritating part of all of this (and the reason that I have bitten my tongue for as long as I have) is that no matter what is said, for good or ill, Stic will be pleased because people are talking about his favourite subject... himself.

~M.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 09:05 PM
sorry for the annon there, hadnt realized that i got logged out at some point. but my point stands that stic started this to have a safe place to freak about being gay. not the sex of it but the siocial weirdness and danger of it. and to be told that he is a genetic freak that might as well not be alive is sorta mean.

the issues of being a bi girl are QUIET different from being a gay male, radically and diametrically different. and when someone other teen trys to hop in and steal some other angsty teens attention, its even sadder than the first teen begging for that attention.

AltarielOfTheUnderworld if you want praise for your sexual experimentation make a forum about being a bi-girl teen. but dont try to tell a gay boy anything about his sexuality or social issues.

Mono if you dont want to hear him whine about it, dont read the forum. its that simple.

Closet if it pisses you off that much message him in private to talk about it. or let it go, it wasnt your "fight" in the first place. you dont need the blood pressure problems protecting teen girls that dont need/want it.

Let him whine and freak. if you have something constructive to say that seems like general good advice or is actaully funny, or something like that post it. if you have something personal to share email or message. a drama queen cant function in a vacuum. Otherwise ignore it.

Attacking someone for freaking out doesnt make them calm down, does it?

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 09:29 PM
Callei, if I thought for a second that this was attacking someone for freaking out, it would be an entirely different story. That is not what this is about. And I repeat, it is not about a "journey of discovery", either. This has been nothing but self-indulgence from the start. "Poor me, I'm gay, nobody can understand me, I'm so deep, et cetera, ad nauseum". It does not do him the first bit of good to pretend that those attitudes are going to fly in the world, it only encourages him to become more self-involved than he already is which will cost him plenty of happiness in the long run. I have known scores of gays, teenagers, and crisis-mongers and Stic has made a very nice niche for himself in the latter category.

You are right, however, about how I can tune it out as it irritates the hell out of me. As I stated already, any response (good or ill) only encourages his already inflated feeling of self-importance and that does nobody any good at all. If he needs to struggle with his molehills, he can look to someone else to help him make mountains out of them. Once he has driven away everyone who tries to offer him any advice or insight (the way he did to Altariel and even to Schizo) maybe he will wake up and realise that the rest of the world is not the source of his angst. Although I doubt it.

I've already said my piece... now back to the Sticupus Show.

~M.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 09:31 PM
I created this forum about myself. I am gay, and comming to terms with that.

" And the most irritating part of all of this (and the reason that I have bitten my tongue for as long as I have) is that no matter what is said, for good or ill, Stic will be pleased because people are talking about his favourite subject... himself."

This isn't fun, nor easy. I need to reflect and sort myself out. Now is the time; I am a teenager. Better now then when I'm 30, wouldn't you think so, Mono?
I understand that teen agnst is not a popular topic amoung this group. Hence why the title of this forum is a big warning sign for everyone. "Enter at your own risk" if you will.
I am not used to saying "I'm gay" out loud. Thinking of it bothers me. This isn't healthy or productive and the problem isn't in my head or all made up by me. People hate gays, my parents included.

"It is listening to the same self-absorbed whining that has been going on and on and on at the expense of everyone and everything around him."

Why are you subjecting yourself to my whining? You have been biting your toungue, so go either stop reading my self absorbed, narrisistic, god complex, hitler-escue drivel and go occupy your time with what's importaint in your life. Right now this is what is importaint to me. I need to do this because I don't have many safe or comforting places to express how I feel and say what I think. Unfortunately this place isn't working out either.

"Like all real people, I've had to go through my share of trauma and had to develop a coping skill or two."

Then share one or two. Stop contributing to my own mess so you can complain about it later.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 10:36 PM
This isn't fun, nor easy. I need to reflect and sort myself out. Now is the time; I am a teenager. Better now then when I'm 30, wouldn't you think so, Mono?

The problem here is, little one, that you are not actually trying to sort yourself out. You are trying to sort everyone else out in relation to you. You think, “Oh, god, I’m gay, I can’t stand it” one day. The next you’re “Oh, god, I have a hot boyfriend, you can all kiss my ass.” Petty whining, or self-aggrandizement, with very little self-reflection in between is all I ever see from you.
I think it would be far better to reflect on all of this when you are thirty once you have some life experience and have perhaps gained perspective.
What would be best now is to stop trying to make everyone accept you. Guess what, the world will not accept you. Your wrong, everything about you is wrong, you’re a queer, and a faggot, and a drama queen, so in the world you will find few friends.
And before you launch on and on and one about how I don’t understand you and how you have so many fucking problems with you sexuality, fuck off, I’m queer with experience, and not only does it not get any easier, you either learn to live in the world, or accept that fact that you will be constantly fucked over, pissed off, and pissed on.
You need to learn to live with others, outside your own head.
You need to learn to accept advice, without spitting on those giving it. When you post something like that, guess what, people will suddenly find out who you are and hate you for it. Oh, and believe me I know, when I was your age I made a decision to come out in a national newspaper, which got me more than a little scary hate mail. And you know what, I look back on that now and think, jeez how silly, what was I thinking. I also think, maybe, just maybe I helped someone, but more often then not I just feel embarrassed. Because I realized that inflating one aspect of my life labeled me as that aspect. I don’t want to be remembered as Gay-girl. And hopefully as you grow up you will find yourself more interested in being a person than in being a flamboyant issue.
If what you want is self reflection than you need to start asking yourself if there is more to you Stic then dick-craving. I mean really, I’d love to think that behind all your angst, there is actually a serious issue other than the desire to love men. Do you have anything, come on. Parent’s hating you is commonplace, even if you aren’t queer.
Having people think you are worthless is commonplace, even if you aren’t queer.
Having people think you are ugly is commonplace, even if you aren’t queer.
Having angst is commonplace, even if you aren’t queer.
However, having people think you are an egotistical bitchy ass is usually brought on by being an egotistical in your face bitch, even if you aren’t queer. (Sin, for example).

That said I think you need to examine why you posted this in a public forum. I think perhaps, rather than being upset about the response you need to realize that you are provoking a response, and that sort of thing will generally get things good or ill. And yes, saying you gay will always provoke a response that is why you do it. It’s always why one does it. Trust me.

And, really, Mono, Schizo, and Alterial made some excellent points. Perhaps you should stop whining, bitching, and attacking, and take some of your omnipotent time to listen and reflect, which is what you claim to want to be doing.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2003 at 10:50 PM
Well for one we werent the only people that said something.......and if I am to give him the respect of a private message with my problem with him then maybe you should take your own advice and send me one if you have a problem with me. I like him and did send him a message before I ever posted anything. We still talk now on AIM, but I still stand firm in my beliefs. Maybe what she said wasnt nice but I dont think she really meant it to hurt him. I didnt see you saying anything to him when he was in the wrong in other forums. I dont know and dont really care anymore Im over it.......moving on now!

 

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  posted on 13/3/2003 at 12:20 AM
This Thread is closed due to excessive shmeng flinging

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