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  posted on 28/11/2004 at 12:19 PM
I thought that the dropkick murphys were irish. i could be wrong and havent bothered to check, but they have a certain pogue-ness to them which speaks to me of irishness.
they are moderately successful and well known in england, perhaps they are 'breaking' england before moving on to a more widespread acclaim in the states if all goes well for them.
singing of guiness would also indicate irish roots if not outright irish nationality.

 

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  posted on 28/11/2004 at 01:12 PM
I saw the beginning of a Dropkick Murphy's set after The Casualties performed. Sadly I had to leave early, but I heard the bagpipes and saw the kilts on stage and in the crowd. Seem a little Irish to me. They aren't a local band. Your nearest Hot Topic sells numerous Dropkick merch.


Oh, and yes the Belgians really do take their fries seriously. I once read a poll forum about Fries on Slashdot slashdot.com . There are so many ways to do fries, and here we do mainly one. Ketchup. I dip my fries in all of the different available sauces to find what I like best, and I love to dip them in Frosties at Wendy's. Here is that particular poll forum: http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1175&aid=-1

[Edited on 11/28/2004 by MystryssRavynDarque]

 

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  posted on 29/11/2004 at 03:11 AM
I think they're of Irish nationality but based in Boston. They're not the sort of band that gets a lot of airtime on MTV, so it's hard to say what kind of following they have elsewhere. My friend saw them, actually met a couple of them after the show. She burned me a CD. I'd heard of them before - they're always listed at Boston clubs when I search the local radio stations for concerts. I kind of like them, but then I'm very Scottish, so bagpipes are in my blood. I can't remember if I've seen shirts at Hot Topic (don't get to the mall very often), but I think I remember seeing their stuff in an alternative clothing catalog my friend showed me. So they're small enough to play at the local clubs, but big enough for the underground community to have heard of them - that's kind of what I expected.

 

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  posted on 29/11/2004 at 10:24 AM
Yeah, it is like The Casualties and Anti-Flag still play the small local venues but their shirts are both sold, and cds, and patches, and buttons, and whatever garbage their names can be tacked onto at Hot Topic or other alt stores. Thought HT isn't that alt anymore is it?

 

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  posted on 29/11/2004 at 11:32 AM
Schizo: Scottish, eh? HAHAHAHAHA. Clearly you have never been there or those words would never pass your lips. Of course on the other hand, if you're Scottish, you're probably off your tits on meths and lying in a gutter in a puddle of your own urine. I do hope you will reconsider your nationality preference.

 

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  posted on 29/11/2004 at 03:06 PM
I saw the Murphy’s live one time and they pulled out a guitar about half the size of a ukulele and rocked out. I was in hysterics.

 

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  posted on 29/11/2004 at 11:56 PM
(Slightly) back on topic. English is becoming the trendy thing in my country. Bad English, that is. Some of the jewels I can spot on my half-a-mile walk home are "Live life to the full"(beer ad) and "Sundays club:no figures, no drugs". Ah well, guess you don't have to learn a language to use it...

 

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  posted on 30/11/2004 at 03:25 AM
Most Americans really don't know their own language. I get so tired of using a word that I don't think is really all that obscure, and having people give me a funny look. It tires me, and I've ended up dumbing down my conversations just as a matter of habit, and I think that's sad.

Incidentally, the best way to learn your own language is to study at least one other language with a shared root. My (sadly) brief linguistic studies in high school helped me inmeasurably with my vocabulary. Any Romantic (latin-based) language is good, because even though English is technically considered a Germanic language, the greater part of our vocabulary comes from these languages (mostly French, thanks to the Norman invasion). Of course, any Germanic language is good, too, and so is Greek. Many educational and scientific terms come from the Greek. Of course, the best way is to get right down to the root, and study Latin, or any other base language. It's amazing how it helps you understand, not only English, but just the way language works.

And then you can prepare to be completely unintelligable to the masses, even while speaking their own language. *sigh*

 

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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"

 

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  posted on 30/11/2004 at 11:13 AM
Heh. I was talking to some Greek guy yesterday about this. He just didn't like it how the English people, in general, seem to know hardly anything or even care about anyone but themselves ultimatly. They don't even know about their own history.
 

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  posted on 30/11/2004 at 10:50 PM
Be careful how you say "English" Wok, for there are quite a few English people from England on this site. The Greek person you were talking to more than likely meant to refer to Americans.

 

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experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell

 

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  posted on 1/12/2004 at 01:53 AM
nah, mrd, wok is right. there are lamentably stupid people in britain too.
the main reason that many english people dont know their own history is that there is just so much more of it. we dont have the problem of 'civilisation started in the americas and then for god knows how long some things happened. some of them involved incas rirtually sacrificing their enemies to make the sun rise, some of them involved native tribes driving buffalo over cliffs and probably taking peyote. then the white man came across the sea and brought them pain and misery. they fought them hard and fought them well, out on the plains they gave them hell' instead we have all sorts of insanely alien sociopolitical concepts as society evolved rather than being artificially created from the views of a few. there is also an emphasis placed on international history so our own history sometimes falls to the wayside. im not so sure about the caring about noone but themselves thing. the english are no worse than any other country and better than most. for a start there is the old commonwealth that england seems to adopt some twisted duty of care for and politicos do try so very hard. there are always a few rotten apples, fascisti, ukip arseholes and the like to give a bad impression. and dont even get me started on the sport fans.

anyway, the real point of my post:
abaddon - 'Of course on the other hand, if you're Scottish, you're probably off your tits on meths and lying in a gutter in a puddle of your own urine' - thats the real reason we were going to go to edinburgh uni isnt it. i know its why i was, now admit that its not just the architecture.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2004 at 03:57 AM
I chose, for my last year of High School, to study British History, and I found that task both fascinating and exhausting. After all, as a person of highly British decent (from many specific regions of those interesting islands), that is my history. I wanted to know what happened to my ancestors BEFORE the colonists landed on the uncharted shores of the New World. So "I know the Kings of England and I quote the fights historical, From Marathon to Waterloo in order catagorical," to quote Gilbert and Sullivan (or I suppose, just Gilbert, since Sullivan wrote the music.) Well, I guess not Marathon, since that was Greek, not British, but you get the picture. Quite a squabbly little island or two, and it's a wonder that they didn't kill each other off long ago, between their internal arguments, and all the mainland invaders who wanted a piece of that foggy little pie. So I know some stupid little details such as the fact that Henry V's French widow married a Welch chap by the name of Owen Tudor, and from this line (with a little addition later of some English royal blood) came the Tudor line of Kings (and Queens) of Henry VIII fame (Henry the Eighth I am, I am...) Just goes to show that, in Europe, everbody who is anybody is related to anybody who is everybody, or something like that, and all-in-all, it's worse than any hillbilly trailerpark full of Uncle Daddies and Grandma Sisters. Resulting in the sort of inbred, hemophiliac-carrying, slightly insane so-an-so's like the Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany (who produced a pair of illegitimate twins, one of whom spawned someone who spawned someone, who married my 7th grade music teacher. "It's a small world after all, It's a small world..."

Anyway, long story short, I know a little bit about British history, and I don't blame any wee Briton for nodding off or not paying attention, or just plain getting solidly lost. After all, you have about a millenia of facts and dates to wade through, instead of a mere, shmeer century or two.

 

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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of

girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"

 

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  posted on 6/12/2004 at 08:14 AM
quote:
Be careful how you say "English" Wok, for there are quite a few English people from England on this site. The Greek person you were talking to more than likely meant to refer to Americans.


Oh I wasn't having a go or anything, just repeating what he said. We were talking about England though, as I'm English by the way.

In brief, I'm just going to say I like English media as compared to the world, I like the political system which I believe works surprisingly well, considering. But I despise the general apathy culture, attitudes and moronic type patriotism thats (dumb) founded in fear of 'the outsider'.

*note: I've no problem with patriotism per se, aslong as it doesn't boil down to blaming a perceived foreign threat for any problem. Recently we have many fools who are prejudice against immigrants and europeans without having the faintest idea of what they are talking about. Christ, in the 80s Punks/Unions/single mums were blamed, the 70s it was blacks 60s- mods & rockers, 50s-00s- Arab, Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants. Now we have a fundamentally Anti-Europe bollocks view being orchestrated by various right-wing people or groups for whatever reason.
Ah, I could go on about the conservatives took us into the EU, how immigration is good, how and how hardly a single critic has read the constitution let alone understand it blah-de-blah..............

 
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