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  posted on 4/4/2002 at 09:04 PM
Dark Tigress - Iīm glad doctors donīt take your view about judging literal cancer.
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<BR>Terrorism is sick. Terrorism is cancer. Iīm not saying itīs the only cancer, but it is cancer, and of a pretty malignant variety, also.
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<BR>We donīt kill cancer just because we donīt like it, we kill it because it is killing us.
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<BR>Yeah, maybe, just MAYBE the terrorists thought they were right in what they were doing. I think people like that only convinced themselves that they were right. Maybe now they believe it, but at some point in their lives they knew that terrorism was DEAD WRONG, and chose to ignore that and deaden themselves to health and sanity.
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<BR>Iīm not saying that what provoked them was right. Chances are, it wasnīt. I AM saying that there is NEVER an excuse for terrorism, NEVER a sufficient reason. Who am I to judge this? I am me. I have eyes and a mind and a conscience, and Iīm not going to call black white or vice versa just because someone might disagree with me. Black isnīt white. Terrorism isnīt justified. Terrorism MUST be stopped.
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<BR>Often you can quench terrorism by just not giving in to demands. A few people get hurt, but the terrorists soon realize that itīs not accomplishing anything, and give up.
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<BR>These terrorists gave no demands. They asked nothing. They just killed for the damn sheer pleasure of killing. They killed to make America bleed. They killed to destroy the people they were jealous of. If left to themselves, they would do it again, and again and again. And no degree of national security would stop it.
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<BR>What are we supposed to do? Say, "Sorry! We are greedy Americans. Our ancestors came over here and made money. Yours stayed there and remained poor and oppressed. We arenīt giving you the money we made. Poor underprivileged people. Itīs OK. We understand why you killed thousands of men, women, and children. Iīm sure you thought you were doing the right thing when you killed them."
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<BR>NO!!!!
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<BR>NO NO NO NO NO! This mindset is a cancer in itself!
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<BR>I reserve the right to recognize cancer and approve itīs destruction! A mother would be no mother if it failed to recognize the cancer of her childīs tantrum, and put an end it. Our lawgivers would be irresponsible if they failed to recognize the cancers of theft and murder, and do something swift and certain to end them to the best of their abilities. And on a global level, it is the duty of every responsible nation to cut out the cancers of the world - oppression and murder of innocents. TERRORISM MUST END!

 

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  posted on 4/4/2002 at 11:43 PM
Workinī on it...

 

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  posted on 5/4/2002 at 02:03 PM
...in black feetsy pajamers? <IMG SRC="images/smilies/icon_wink.gif">
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<BR>But really... all that is īterrorismī is not wrong. The young americans that dumped all that tea overboard were terrorists. Shays (leader of Shaysī rebellion) was a terrorist. He held a courthouse hostage! And Iīm sure the British press were just as disapproving of this as our press is today of todayīs terrorism.
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<BR>The Earth Liberation Front (ELF) has been labeled a terrorist organization by the FBI. But they have never killed or harmed a single person. Is that deserving of the weighty word of īterrorismī?
<BR>Reclaim the Streets, a jovial revolution (Dolorosa would be wonderful at this) centering around -people- using the streets has also been listed. Are you going to name on that list an organization whose main weapon is parties?
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<BR>Big G is just using this as an excuse to put in anti-īterrorismī laws... I donīt like it all one bit, and I feel sorry for those that are being taken in for it.<BR><BR><font size=1>[ This message was edited by: Ironboots on 2002-04-05 13:05 ]</font>

 

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  posted on 5/4/2002 at 04:06 PM
Ironboots: Help me understand here, because I am really lost in what you are saying or what direction you are taking this in. I really donīt want to misinterpret your words.
<BR>But, with your little bit of brief history about a hostage and green peace, or whoever you mentioned, can in no way begin to measure with the catastropic events that happened at the hands of terrorists on September 11th.
<BR>Secondly, What do you want President Bush to do? Let it go, let them wander into another country to regroup and do it again and again and again?
<BR>Remember also, that the President isnīt calling all the shots here, do any of you not realize this? The President is a figure head for the most part, a puppet in which everyone else is pulling the strings. I have said this once, and Iīll say it again.. Why are all of you finger pointers not involved in politics as a career? If you know so much, why isnīt your butt sitting in the oval office?
<BR>I am so tired of hearing the snotty remarks about Bush and how he this and how he that. He is doing what needs to be done. Stop it with the grudge because the president of your choice didnīt make it in, thatīs all it is, isnīt it? Got news for you, even if the President of your choice was in office right now, it would not be handled any different than what it is, to think other wise is just fooling yourself.
<BR>I have no clue of what kind of fairy dust some of you are floating around on, but to sympathize with a terrorist, or groups of terrorists, makes you one sandwhich short of a picnic.
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  posted on 6/4/2002 at 03:56 PM
Alot of what you guys say make sence. But in my eyes, some doesnīt. Iīm not gonna write a long message, because I believe everyone should think what they please... so I shall not try to convince you. All I want to get through is my point: No one is right in war. No one can be judged as the wrong part. Sure, a war is built up of two sides, fighting about something... but in my eyes, no human can ever judge which side that really is the right one. Thatīs all I am saying. But as it looks today human must take sides... therefore I take the american side... but at the same time I donīt close my eyes... I do see that the other side is as much right as my side is for me... therefore I shall not hate them. Hmm.. hope I make some sence. Not easy for a lil 15 year old to try to make sence of her mixed opinions in this big world <IMG SRC="images/smilies/icon_wink.gif">

 

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  posted on 6/4/2002 at 11:38 PM
Well (to a prior comment) if they wanted us to mind our own business, to leave them alone, to NOT HELP STARVING PEOPLE BEING MURDERED.....theeennnnnn...
<BR>Why they hell did they do the one thing...THE thing, that would assure weīd be the diseased tick in their shorts for the next indeterminent amount of time?
<BR>They wanted to make a point...that they (the terrorists) want to run a country where women are murdered for being women, where men cannot clap at soccer games, they must sit and stand and yell "praise allah" or suffer a severe or fatal beating. Where people canīt watch a soccer game without it being interrupted for yet another mass execution. Where music is outlawed. Where children are taught to kill or prepared for death. Where widdowed women must sit and beg silently on the streets shrouded from sight to feed their children, unable to work, unable to remarry. Marriage is slavery, widdowhood is certain death. Where they must sit silently in houses with blacked out windows to hide their evil presence from the world. Where young boys are forced into service to a country that cares whether or not they live or die.
<BR>A country in despair, thinking the one in the blue turban would ease their suffering, bring order to their world, only to show them just how deep the pits of hell reach and then some.
<BR>Sound like hitler? Yes, only sloppier and slippier.....shall we sympathise with hitler?
<BR>History needs villains. They arenīt fun, they arenīt fair, but would the plight of the jews (much like the plight of the afghanis women AND MEN) have ever been brought to light without hitler? Hitler was bad....and even bad things bring about growth and change. History needs shit disturbers...
<BR>But it doesnīt make it okay. Hitler was TOTALLY convinced he was doing good, doing his people a favor, that he was right and righteous....and he was a terrorist, a tyrant, a murder, a liar, and a maniac.
<BR>So is bin laden.
<BR>For every bomb we dropped we dropped twice as much aid...and the devestation of the country was horrid BEFORE we got there with a few more bombs that werenīt from their own government. Did their government rebuild the buildings they destroyed? Dropped medical packs and food after each attack? No...because they donīt care about their citizens...we do. We care enough to take extreme measures to get rid of this asshole who hurt us, and now to those who hurt them.
<BR>Yes, we didnīt do much that was press worthy until sept 11...but then again, WE WERE MINDING OUR OWN BUSINESS....huh, how bout that.
<BR>I donīt sympathise with bleedinghearts, terrorists, jellyfish or hypocrites. They make their graves, and they can rot in them for all I care....but Iīll be doing my dance on it, you can be assured of that. My happy "one more waste of skin is gone" dance.
<BR>If we had just let this go, weīd have been royallly fucked....does anyone know how many more attacks were scheduled to follow the main strike? That my home town and city of work were on target? Perhaps yours?
<BR>I work smack dab between three major US military bases...and a jump to one of the bussiest international airports in the country. How do you think that feels? To find a cigarette box in a bag, open it and have white powder douse my employees? To listen to snot face little retards who probably canīt even name all the states with a map and a dictionary rage about what angry americans they are and "kill the sand niggers" and "towel/diaper heads" and "camel jockeys"?
<BR>This makes me SICK. Not only does it make me sad for whatīs going on there, itīs exactly how many people donīt know/care/give a fuck about it. They probably donīt even know where afghanistan is, and all of a sudden Iīve got a store full of teenage armchair generals.
<BR>People donīt care. They donīt care about themselves, they donīt care about us, they dontī care about anything.
<BR>And then I hear worse about people SYMPATHISING with terrorists....true life sympathy for the devil....that they have a good reason, that they are sick of being ignored or heard...well that is the deadliest tempertantrum Iīve ever seen. Well, the media darling trenchcoat columbine kids had a plan, were sick of being ignored....should we have reasoned with them?
<BR>Charles manson had a plan...jeffery dhamer, ted bundy, pogo, zodiac, green river, boston strangler, son of sam, jack the fucking ripper, ghengis khan, hitler, napoleon, hannibal, ted kazinski, tim mcveigh shall I continue? Wanna reason with charlie? "now charlie, that sharron woman was just having a nice party with nice people and you just ruined a nice time....what can we give you to make you stop hurting nice people?"
<BR>Yeah fucking RIGHT.
<BR>You deal with them in the language they speak. Bullets, bombs, and death. You corner them like the vermin they are and exterminate them. Donīt like it? Well neither do I, none of us do, but I doidnīt like arriving at work and getting a frantic phone call from my assistant saying the center of our economy, the WORLDīS economy, was gone. That our pentagon was hit. That Rudy Guilliani ordered SIX THOUSAND BODYBAGS.
<BR>That the government ordered FIVE HUNDRED BODYBAGS for DC.
<BR>Youīre not supposed to LIKE it. So you DEAL with it. You donīt sugar coat it, you donīt rationalize it, you donīt sympathise with it, you skullfuck it until it screams mercy, then you skullfuck it some MORE.
<BR>Then you dump it. You learn a lesson. Maybe it never happens again, maybe it does, but whoever does it will think twice..three times, and maybe forget it.
<BR>Iīm done. Iīm sick. Itīs time for another smoke and Iīve got potatoes burning on my stove.
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  posted on 7/4/2002 at 01:04 AM
The little twig of Ironboots folds... You guys are way too good at arguing! Especially you, bettie!
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<BR>Oui... I might type up an argument, but Iīm getting tired. Maybe... Until next time
<BR>*bows*
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<BR>The essential thread of mine was:
<BR>Donīt be so sure the other guys are the bad ones.

 

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  posted on 7/4/2002 at 07:47 PM
OH, donīt be sad, we werenīt trying to batter you into submission or make you feel stupid or that your opinion isnīt valid, itīs just this is a very raw and very new nerve for just about everyone right now and probably always will be.
<BR>I do agree with finding out whatīs going on, not just throwing punches in the dark. Not swinging first, asking questions later.
<BR>Itīs just that we do know who is responsible for it. We suspected, they admitted. Case closed. Now time to blow his ass out of the goddamned desert.
<BR>Iīm sure they did have a point, a side to the story, and I brought to light just what it was they wanted or wanted to accomplish...and that if they had intended it as a "leave us be" message, it should go into historyīs military blunders of an attrocious degree catalog.
<BR>I think itīs pretty clear what is intended when an organization makes a deadly move on QUOTE "the evil west".
<BR>Itīs all very sad, itīs all very sick, and itīs all very very messed up. I think george made a huge mistake titling certain nations with whom our relations are...shall we say "tense"...axisī of evil. Was I the only one who heard a bomb drop about then? Not a REAL bomb, perse, but a sort of "there goes the neighborhood" as those countries names popped out between his lips?
<BR>All in all, everyone can agree that war is bad. This war is bad. This situation is bad, there is no real right or wrong thing to do anymore, just the most effective thing, the thing that will prevent this from happening not just to us, but to others in the future.
<BR>What really gets me angry is people saying that we donīt help, that weīre stupid and ignorant and donīt care. We pour BILLIONS into foreign aide every year. We send our own troops to desperate countries when a flood threatens thousands, when an earthquake levels a city, with food, water, medical help, shelter, and a shoulder or helping hand. Refugees? Weīll take īem. Flood? Weīll bail you out. Earthquake? Weīll help you find and burry your loved ones. We flattened your country after you sneak attacked us and killed civilians in a tropical seaport? Weīll rebuild it better than ever.
<BR>When has one country ever physically or financially come to our rescue? San Franscisco earthquake? We dug our OWN people out and rebuilt our highways. The massive west and southwestern fires of two years ago? Weīll send in OUR boys to do the job. Misissippi flooding? We relocated and helped our own. Lots of words of condolences from all sorts of people when the terrorists struck last year....where were they to dig out our fallen NYCīS best and bravest? To help clear the devestation and ruin? Nope...our boys and girls and citizens. Immigrants, natives, refugees and tourists.
<BR>America was founded on hard ass people who only survived by learning how to pull themselves up by their boot straps and survive. Right or wrong in the caucasion and immigrant occupation of native territory, weīre here. IīM native american...I was BORN here. And weīre tough.
<BR>It can be good to be the big dog on the mountain, but be sure someoneīs always going to have something nasty to say, and someoneīs always going to try to knock you off...you have to expect it, but you donīt have to ACCEPT it...or let go.
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  posted on 8/4/2002 at 07:56 PM
Ironboots - none of your terrorist examples killed people. Whether they were right or wrong in their actions is something I donīt know - either not knowing the situation very well, or not having been there when it happened. (By the way - I had ancestors in Boston when the teaparty happened, and they were Royalists!)
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<BR>And DarkTigress, sorry to pound you, but I very much disagree. I know it seems harsh to say "youīre right and youīre wrong". I agree - war is a bad thing. But you have to take into account who started the killing. Which is more evil - to let people be wiped out because war is so bad, or to bite the bullet and do the unpleasant to stop the people who are doing the killing.
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<BR>Sure, some more people got killed in the fighting in Afghanistan. Some were innocent. But what would have happened if we held back from war? Certainly far more people would have died - and almost 100% innocent, too. Our nuclear power plants would have been destroyed, killing the workers and spreading radiation sickness through the land, spawning cancers in men, women, and children in those regions. Think of those babies born with cancer and deformities, to die in pain because we considered war too evil to face.
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<BR>How many more people must be swept from their routine travel to become living missles to kill perhaps people they know in some skyscraper or other populous area? How many firefighters and policemen must be crushed and smothered and burned to death to selflessly rescue whoever might have survived that catastrophe?
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<BR>It is a common thing to say "you canīt go to war to preserve peace". But that is short-sighted. War, in its proper frame, is the nitro-glycerin explosion that puts out the forest fire. It destroys, yes, but in the end it stops destruction. Fire can fight fire - if used properly. A last resort, yes, but sometimes a necessary one.
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<BR>It is, as far as I can see, never right to start violence, but sometimes necessary to respond.
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<BR>There is right and wrong. It doesnīt matter what the person doing wrong thinks about it. To be sure, a lot that has been called wrong is nothing of the sort. But it is still wrong to kill children, for example, even if the child-killer thinks he is entirely justified. If I see someone harming a child, I would probably try to harm him, if necessary, to save the childīs life. And I would be in the right. And he would be in the wrong. And that would be that.
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<BR>Just because weīre dealing with countries instead of individuals doesnīt mean that right and wrong and the proper reactions donīt apply.
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<BR>So donīt feel guilty for backing this retaliation against terrorism. It IS right, not because we did it, but because it is right. If we hijacked Afghani planes and flew them into Afghani skyscrapers, they would be entirely justified in doing their best to crush US!
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  posted on 8/4/2002 at 09:42 PM
Entirely correct, schitz.
<BR>Nobodyīs saying whos right and wrong in this...this is all opinion...some is fact. Iīm trying to understand where the sympathy and apathy toward the saftey of self and country.
<BR>If your ass is on fire, put it out.
<BR>If a man smite you on one cheek, BASH him on the other.
<BR>Count yourself lucky if the person chucking rocks at you lives in a glass house too.
<BR>Itīs not so much as who throws the first punch, but who delivers the last.
<BR>You donīt reason with those with no senses, and you donīt battle wits with unarmed persons.
<BR>I just want it to be over and done, for whatīs left of the jerkoff and his minions to be brought home in ziplock bags to throw darts at, and for the racists in america to learn the wonders of playing in traffic, for the psycho patriots to forget why they stapled plastic flags to their children, and for the armchair generals to run out of beer.
<BR>Is that so much to ask for?
<BR>I mean really.... ?

 

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  posted on 8/4/2002 at 10:22 PM
Here I stand these words I say are nonetheless made immortal by those who read them and pass them on whether they be viewed with agreement or disagreement: I say bring the war of the world to hand and witness the newest generationīs form of law and govenment made from todayīs feelings of betrayal and corruption lurking in everyoneīs mind fresh at what it was that has brought us to this point. For something new will be made in the ashes and if we are lucky we will be the ones to form the shape it takes as we are the makerīs hands on this earth. We be the forge of humanityīs tomorrow. <IMG SRC="images/smilies/icon_cool.gif">

 

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  posted on 9/4/2002 at 01:40 AM
and you are prepared to take over your share of the paperwork for this "new world order" created in your image of Utopia?

 

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  posted on 9/4/2002 at 11:32 AM
Absolutely-Zalosisae (In (Government run, therfore government taught)school) <IMG SRC="images/smilies/icon_cool.gif">

 

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  posted on 9/4/2002 at 08:34 PM
oo that reminds me c, I need to put an add in the classified ads for a secretary for my imminent takeover....
<BR>"wanted...cheeky bulletproof dame who loves to play with paper all day...must have nice legs, not mind loud explosions and death threats, and responds only to īgimpī "
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  posted on 9/4/2002 at 08:38 PM
oh, and for the record, I wouldnīt hand over an unloaded rifle to todayīs kids...theyīd find a way to have a "mind blowing experience" one way or another...Hell if the kids I know took over theyīd loot every rite aid in america, get doped up on sudafed and nyquil, pass out and forget what country they are in.
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<BR>Hell, ask a highschooler what "anarchy" is....then duck.
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<BR>While I search for the elixer that will let me live long enough to fix shit up, Iīm going to be searching the yellowpages for moat builders and dialing the sportsmanīs guide to stock up on weapons and rations.....catch you later..that is when the radiation clears.
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  posted on 10/4/2002 at 05:36 AM
*raises an eyebrow* Amazing how mankind can say one thing and protest against it, and then do it themselves thinking they are right. Fuck what the terrorists think, fuck what the US thinks... sure the afghanistans are total assholes for their beliefs, but what makes us more right when we kill em?
<BR>I mean, they killed for their belief... they killed for what they thought were wrong... they killed because they died.
<BR>Then people who thinks exactly the same come and does same thing back, claiming the other side is wrong.
<BR>Hell, perhaps itīs human nature... it got to be... but Iīll tell you one thing,
<BR>this teenager, or kid, or bad doc, or whatever you wish to call me do not respect people like terrorists at all... to hell with em... but what I almost likes less, is those who have the sence to be better, but still lowers themself to their level. 2 wrongs can never make one right... EVER. It sure can make you feel better, yeah... but itīs up to you if you really want thousands of dead people on your conscience, just because you want to feel safe. There are other ways to protect a country anyway, other than attacking a country who has nothing to do with anything.
<BR>Afghanistan and itīs people have done nothing wrong... they were raised in their way, and just like any other nation they have theyr bads... and as I think, more bad than other nations... but they did not cause the death of all poor people who got killed or hurt in the attacks... bin Laden did, and his terrorists... why sacrifize the others instead?
<BR>Iīm sorry, but I think itīs weird. But, I guess thatīs what warīs all about... killing... getting respect for how much blood you shed... being egotistic. I know for myself though, that if my entire family died of diseases and starvation because some other family wouldnīt want to help us, I would sure get filled with wrath... and if I were raised differently, I perhaps would kill them. Then if I deserve to get killed 10 times over back is up to people I guess...
<BR>You get my wrong when you think that I care for the terrorists or something... I just have more common sence than sinking down to their level... because that makes me as bad, no matter who started it. Why get stuck at who started it, when someone can end it?
<BR>Cīmon, gimme your critics or just ignore me... Iīm just a unknowing, weird teenager kid after all... if I should go by what you say <IMG SRC="images/smilies/icon_razz.gif">

 

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  posted on 10/4/2002 at 06:09 AM
Morally, I think what youīre saying is right. True, we shouldnīt have to lower us to their level. But cīmon, in practic reality, it just doesnīt work. Sure, if everyone were nice to eachother this would be one hell of a great world, but it wonīt happen. Bin Ladin is(or was?..) a maniac. He most sincerely believes that USA = The Devil. I doubt youīd be able to solve this situation peacefully with someone whoīs got such a twisted perspective on the world. First off, had the US not bombed Afghanistan, there wouldīve been a lot of new terrorist attacks after 9/11. The list of possible target is huge: Large airports all over the country, The White House, Empire State Building, The Statue of Liberty, Sears Towers, Golden Gate Bridge.. The list could go on forever.
<BR>Secondly, I think they did Afghanistan a favor by bombing them, as weird as it may sound. Think about it. If they hadnīt bombed Afghanistan, the Northern Alliance would NEVER have been able to overthrow the Taliban regime. Sure, there were civilian casualties, but thatīs unavoidable in war. And compare the casualties in Afghanistan to the would-be casualties in the US, if the US had not taken action.
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  posted on 10/4/2002 at 06:16 AM
I think the first thing you say is way true and I agree fully. Let the countries do what is "needed"... itīs just sad that people really believes that itīs all right, in person... if you understand what I mean?

 

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  posted on 10/4/2002 at 06:21 AM
itīs not right, but sadly, itīs necessary..

 

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  posted on 10/4/2002 at 06:31 AM
oh everyones got nice COLORFUL language. I think here is where everyone has something i common. No one likes all the shyt that been slung cuase almost everyone has been hit in the face with this.
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<BR>Its not like any of the politians are trying to make this better and if you ask me Bush wants a war. Thats all heīs wanted from the get go. I mean hell he hasnīt even been president that long and already the US has been treatened. Why else would he have built up the armed forces at the beggining.
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<BR>He wants to be just like daddy. He wants to be the hero.....bah. Damned Christains thinking they can take over the world!

 

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