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AloneSoul
Fanatic   Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 9/10/2002 at 09:49 PM |
I'm watch'in Connan and he just said that a new study shows that 64% of
Americans are over weight.
I know that usually information from late night comedy shows aren't really
something you should take seriously but still, I wouldn't be surprised
about it if were true.
What's your take on the weight issue of America?
Should politicians drop the "blame toxic entertainment for corrupting our
children" act and actually tackle some RELEVANT issues such as this one?
Maybe we should start getting pissed that there are constant commercials on
children's networks constantly bombarding their viewers with advertisements
of high sugary products?
[Edited on 10/10/2002 by AloneSoul]
[Edited on 10/10/2002 by AloneSoul] ____________________
 but at least you know, just how much pain there is in living
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MorteAscendo
Member   Posts: 190 Registered: 6/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 9/10/2002 at 11:25 PM |
I think that we should just get fat...fuck it...at least ill die happy!!
muhahahah
but seriously...i have no sympathy for "over weight" people....My mother
was 300lbs+ and lost 167lbs in 16 months..and has kept it off for
years...and supposedly she had a thyroid problem that made her fat or
whatever...its all bullshit...its the laziness of the person that keeps
them fat...and you know what...the people that say excersize doesnt
work..they are retarted too...if you run everyday for 30 minutes or even
swim it will knock calories down...i gained 20 pounds when i got to the
island...and i swam everyday for 30-60 mins and i got back to my normal
weight in 15 days....
People are fat because they want to be...if they got off there asses and
worked out and dieted right...then they could get somewhere....but if they
are gunna bitch about and try and sue places like McDonalds and
JackintheBox becasue they "MADE" him fat...then they are just making
excusses because they fat lazy peices of shit....nuff said...
sorry Alone..i hate this issue...always makes me mad...
'here is a hint...smoke alot of weed and dont eat junk food...shit i lost
all my weight from smokin and not eating cause i didnt wanna go anywhere to
get the food. but hey..whatever works..jsut do it..no excusses ____________________
"Roses are Red, Violets are Blue. I'm a schizophrenic, and so am I".
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bettie_x
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posted on 9/10/2002 at 11:48 PM |
Morte, I agree with you to some extent, but not all the way. I have a
couple of friends that are genetically obese...One friend, her whole FAMILY
is obese...so are her grandparents. She excercises (but nothing strenuous)
and she's a vegan and stays off the junkfood. She can keep herself from
getting BIGGER but even when she tried a couple of months of gym exercises
and watching her calorie intake more carefully, she lost a couple pounds,
but not much. She doesn't complain, she knows she's "fat" and that her
genes are working against her worse than most people, and she just is heath
conscious so that even tho she's big, she's not unhealthy.
Another friend is also "queen" size. She takes after her dad's side of the
family, which are big big boys and fertility idol shaped women. She also
watches her diet and walks a lot to keep herself active. She doesn't bitch
either. Yes, her weight bothers her, but she also knows that genetics are
to blame for her current size, but laziness will make her BIGGER.
It makes me VERY angry when I hear of people thinking of suing fast food.
For attractive packages, alluring ads, for peddling fatty foods. NOBODY
MAKES YOU EAT IT. NOBODY MAKES YOU PULL YOUR CAR THROUGH THE DRIVE THRU
AND STUFF YOUR FACE ON HEART ClOGGING CRAP.
My ass is getting bigger, you know. Why? Because I"m tired all the time.
Why? Because I don't work out. Why? Because I"m lazy. It bothers me, so
I've been laying off the vegan junk food and luxuries and making more home
meals. I do situps (when I remember) and pushups (when I remember) and all
that crap (when I remember). I was 165lbs my junior year of highschool.
Through getting a job where I was busting my ass all day long, only eating
when I was REALLY hungry, and cutting down on portions and fatty/fried
food, I lost 60lbs in well under a year. Granted how I got to 105lbs was
by inadvertantly starving myself without realising it, and then when my mom
was checking my teeth for signs of bolemia, and asking me if I was eating
whenever I saw her, I realised I wasn't a healthy weight. I was a size 1,
which believe me was REALLY fun after being a size 16, I realised I wasn't
healthy, and bumped my weight up to 110-115. I don't know what I weigh
now, but it's a little more than I would probably like so I'm doing my
tried and true method. Eating and acting healthy.
It's not all genetics and it's not all laziness.
But when I went to disneyland when I was 20 I couldn't help but notice just
how many seriously overwieght and obese kids there were. I'm not talkin
baby fat. I'm talkin FAT. Then saw those kids at the buffet in the
morning chowing down on loads of sticky, sweet breakfast stuff, no fruit no
nothing...while their parents looked the other way.
Plus, with all the video games out there, why get up and go outside?
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KatB
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 01:04 AM |
| Shit, the people who _should_ be sued are the parents who gives/allowes
their kids breakfasts and/or steady diets like that. Friggin' child abuse! ____________________
All stressed out and no one to choke...
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AloneSoul
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 06:26 AM |
It's just that exersize isn't promoted enough and children today can EAT
all they want without parental influence. It's sick the way they are being
raised.
You can stay inside all you want and still be healthy. I have my weights,
my bench in my garage and the exersize bike in the tv room. I'll let my
brain rot alittle infront of the tv but I'll be ON top of the bike.
A hour a day, that's what I do to keep in shape. You don't even need that
dedication! If kids would just exersize more, half our atleast, we wouldn't
have this problem! But if you look at these "award winning childrens
channels/shows" you'll see pratically every commercial is for some sugary
product.
God, one thing that gets to me, I see a 10 year old girl who's stomach
hangs out further than her face or toes do....
There's something wrong here and like I said before, 9 out of 10 times it's
the parents.
I'm NOT shunning people over weight but I'm asking you out there, get up
and exersize more and eat better foods. Dedication will win this. ____________________
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Xaoswolf
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 06:36 AM |
Last I heard, that 64% was right.
Since I've graduated high school and been off the swim team, I've noticed a
slight growth forming in my stomach. Now surely this has to do with big
bones, or the fact that I'm a healthy individual who lives a robust life
and doesn't starve myself. I'm relatively sure it has nothing to do with
beer...
Now I will agree that curvy is good. I know a girl that complains about
her weight but is the actually damn sexxy. Even Marilon Monroe (horribly
misspelled I know) would be considered overweight by today's fashion
standards.
However, it's when people get to be fat, that the problems start. It is
not a medical condition, it is not a handicap, it is stupidity and
laziness. It's not even the hamburger that made you fat, it's the 10th
hamburger, followed by the roast chicken, that made you fat.
What gets me, is these people that can't get out of bed because they are so
fat. The ones that need the doors cut out so the doctors can get their fat
carcases out of the house when they die. How do you get to be that fat. I
mean, if you are bed ridden, you can't exactly go shopping for all the food
you consume, let alone get a job to earn the money to buy it. Someone has
to help these people get this fat. I know that if someone in my family was
like that, and they told me to go bring them another side of beef, I know
what I'd say to them.
Here's the best part, fat people are now a group that can be discriminated
against. They have organizations that can sue if you make fat jokes, or
show fat people in a way they don't like. I don't really see how this
works. I mean, it's a choice to be fat, unlike race and gender (well, ok,
Micheal Jackson chose to be a white woman, but that's a different story).
Being fat shows a disregard for your body, just like not bathing, drug use,
or body mutulation. If it came down to someone who is fat and someone that
is the proper weight during an interview, I go with the non fat person. If
someone doesn't respect themselves enough to stay healthy, how can I expect
them to respect their job?
On a side note, why are the post and preview buttons changing size on mouse
over?? Is it just me, or are we all seeing it?? ____________________
Sometimes I dream about dinosaurs shopping for cargo shorts at the Gap.
Does that make me a bad person?
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Psychopixi
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 08:31 AM |
This problem isn't as big over here, but believe me, we're catching up
fast. I know I'm a lazy git - I do sod all in the way of exercise and I
consider myself very lucky to just stay slim anyway. Thing is, I *do* eat
relatively healthily, I walk around Killay with my friends, I end up doing
more than just sitting at a computer all day.
I agree with the people who've said that if you get fat then it's your
problem. Can't blame McDonalds - they didn't pay to shove their food down
your throat. Can't blame TV - it didn't make you sit in front of it for
hours non-stop. Can't blame themselves - they know deep down that it is
their fault they're the size they are and they don't like that fact. So
everyone else gets the blame.
Fair enough if they do have a medical/genetic condition that means they are
over-sized. My nan isn't exactly slim but she does eat healthily and
exercises as much as she can considering her age and her health. It's not
her fault and I have no problems with people like her.
People who just do shit-all all day and bitch about their size?
Pathetic.
PS; The buttons don't change size for me!! ____________________
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VampCourt
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 12:18 PM |
moderation. enjoy stuff that you like. but dont go over board with it.
Exersize. Go for a walk. Go swimming.. do something involving movement.
Will power.
Im not a bone thin person, but im not massive either. im comfy and with all
three of those things..
it helps me feel good... ____________________
"Thou shalt not be afraid of the dark, nor of graveyards nor ghosts nor the
devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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ickgirl
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 12:37 PM |
"it is not a handicap, it is stupidity and laziness. "
wow, aren't you an ass.
someone who is extremely overweight isn't necessarily STUPID and they
aren't necessarily lazy either.
how incredibly insensitive. And then you bitch about people who can't get
out of bed.
think how absolutely horrible their lives are. do you think they enjoy it?
do you, perhaps, think that they are miserable, depressed, and beyond the
point of being able to get up out of bed?
overweight people are, quite possibly, the most targeted group for hatred.
whatever color you are, whatever religion you are, whatever gender you are
- there will always be this group of people telling you how STUPID and LAZY
you are.
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VampCourt
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 12:54 PM |
excellant point ick. i compleatly agree. its people like that, that make
the heavier people have even lower esteem because all they hear is
ridecule about thier bodys.
Its not stupidity. and its not always laziness. It could just be that they
have weight on thier body. and SO what if they do? its not your problem.
its theirs.. even IF it is a problem with them. Some people are quite happy
being heavy.
And i had mentioned this awhile back, but i did read this in a bitch
magazine. Fat people are becoming the new "blackface". If you dont believe
me, watch all those movies with people wearing fat suits.
Its HILARIOUSE watching fat people try to have normal everyday lives. ____________________
"Thou shalt not be afraid of the dark, nor of graveyards nor ghosts nor
the
devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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Xaoswolf
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 01:05 PM |
If someone is bedridden because they weigh over 700 pounds, then there are
two reasons for it,
a: you have some out of control hormone problem
b: lunch consisted of 1 lb of pasta, 2 fried chickens, a dozen or so
hamburgers, and some meatloaf
If a, then well, it's not you're fault, I'm not complaining about you, if
b, then hell yes there is a problem.
And the problem isn't just the person who is bedridden. Like I said, where
is the food comming from. Who is buying and cooking it. I actually heard
of someone who ate exactly as I said above. There was no way that they
could have made it to the store to buy all of that. With the money spent
on one meal for this person, I could probably eat for a week. If you're
bedridden, you don't make that kind of money, right? There are normally
familly members cooking and serving the food to people like this. They are
as much to blame as the person eating all of that. How do you let someone
in you're family eat themselves to such an unhealthy state. ____________________
Sometimes I dream about dinosaurs shopping for cargo shorts at the Gap.
Does that make me a bad person?
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Monolycus
Fanatic  Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 01:51 PM |
Like almost every discussion we've been having lately, this is not a black
& white, cut and dried, it's this or that issue, although you wouldn't
guess from the high minded, gross oversimplifications that get puttered
about.
As far as Xaos' point about someone who is bedridden and has to call in fat
to work because the doorways have gotten too narrow to admit them... apart
from three or four cases in the history of humanity (most of which are
covered by the Weekly World News), that does not happen for exactly the
reasons Xaos described. They can not fend for themselves and unless you
are the bloated emperor of some very rich fantasyland, nobody in their
right mind is going to enable you to "live" that kind of lifestyle. It is
such a rare phenomenon that it really does not enter into the debate.
Yes, overweight people are the objects of ridicule in a culture that is so
obsessed with the superficial that they will inject military grade
neurotoxins into their faces and kill healthy tissue in an attempt to avoid
wrinkles. Yes, it is not entirely unexpected that young people in the
aforementioned culture will develop eating disorders unto death because
they have never gotten a handle on the fact that there are more important
things than their appearance (not an indictment of the anorexics/bulimics,
but rather the culture that produces them), and that human variation
extends to morphic types beyond the thin.
A Parable:
Silly Person A, who happens to have the good fortune of having a reasonably
high metabolism, thinks that people become fat because they eat too much.
Silly Person A has absolutely no idea how the human body works and can not
deal with more than a single variable at a time apparently... but they
would not accept that obvious fact so there's no point going on about it.
Since Silly Person A believes that eating too much causes clinical obesity,
they see Overweight Person and think to themselves "My, Overweight Person
certainly is rotund. Overweight Person must have no self control whatsover
since they are not as svelte as myself!" Silly Person A goes on their
merry, self-righteous way and is hopefully killed while wandering into
traffic while yakking self-importantly on a cell phone.
Silly Person B thinks that they are much cleverer than Silly Person A
because they not only have a high metabolism, but are also able to juggle
two variables in a single bound. They have convinced themselves that
clinical obesity is caused by eating too much and not getting enough
exercise. When they see Overweight Person, they think to themselves "My,
Overweight Person is awfully rotund. They must have no self-control and
must also be slothful and lazy. Aren't I clever for figuring out their
problem? I should have been a doctor or scientist!" What Silly Person B
is actually suited for is lying on a compost heap until they turn into
topsoil, but that is neither here nor there.
In reality, Overweight Person holds down a job that does not pay very well.
When Overweight Person goes to the supermarket, they can not afford
"organic", "healthy", "lite", or "natural" products. They have to buy
what they can afford, which is largely composed of high fructose corn syrup
and colouring. Overweight Person knows what the various Silly People think
and feels terrible about themselves. When they get the opportunity (which
does not happen often because they are chained to a desk for eight to ten
hours a day so they can keep a roof over their heads), they engage in
radical diets which alter their biochemistry so that they burn food
even more slowly than they did before once their bodies adjust
to the new intake levels. Overweight Person swallows their shame of their
body in order to join a gym, only to discover that rapid weight loss,
stress and anxiety from the judgements of others, and physical strain are a
perfect combination for a heart attack. Since Overweight Person was poor
to begin with (and obviously fat and lazy, I mean, just look at them!),
they do not receive the health care that Rich, Slim Good Looking Person
would have received and do not pull through, ending a life of
self-recrimination and anguish because they had internalised all of the
judgements of the Idiot People.
At Overweight Person's funeral, all the poor, bereaved Idiot People turn up
to murmur about how "natural" Overweight Person looks in the casket (Idiot
People only care about how people look, whether they are in a casket or at
a soiree) and mutter their condolences. "If only Overweight Person had
taken better care of themselves!" they moan. "Why, if Overweight Person
hadn't been so lazy and had more self-control, they would be with us
today!" My, what a mixed blessing that would be.
~Monolycus.
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VampCourt
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 02:34 PM |
Monolycus, that was awesome. *nods*  ____________________
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the
devil, for thou art scarey and mean." -The Goth commandments
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AloneSoul
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 02:48 PM |
To set things clear from my stand point, I am not ridiculing, stereotyping
or trying to insult the overweight individuals in anyway. I wanted to bring
this issue to light.
It’s very sad though to see our people heading in this direction, young and
old leading a unhealthy lifestyle, not being able to enjoy the simpler
pleasures that thinner people do, having to deal with CONSTANT laughter and
ridicule. The damage they receive mentally worries me some but the physical
damage does more.
40 percent of about 100 million is very, very bad. 65 percent (even if that
is accurate) is a national crisis. (Like so many others we do/don’t have,
scrutinized by the media)
Parents set their children infront of the “wholesome tv” for “family
quality” entertainment. These kids simply soak in the information spewed
from the tv all the time. Sometimes, they want the “fun food” products they
see on tv. Sooner or later, they will gain a insatiable appetite for these
products.
The FDA for Christ’s sakes let a product pass which is just a tube of
peanut butter.
I know kids aren’t stupid, they are smarter than we all believe but what
about the adults? They buy this crap and they let their children devour it.
Adults let this pass. Older adults consider it ok to “let themselves go.”
Same with our housewives trapped in their coffins of a home.
ick, I agree that overweight individuals are targeted easier. I’m not
trying to make fun of anyone. My point is that this IS a problem and our
nation really has to do something about it.
People seem to listen to the tv a lot more then they should. If those
fucking geniuses at congress really gave two shits they would take issues
like this to light as they did for entertainment or whatnot. THIS is for
the health and safety of our people.
Also Vamp, the whole MTV image is driving the weaker minded people into
pushing their weight down WAY too far. I agree, we need to find a balance
in the middle. I’m 165 lbs, I went up from 115 lbs in two years. *i don’t
even know how my weight was down that low, i ate a lot, i wasn’t anorexic
or belemic(spelled wrong, i know)* My body is how I like it, cut and
muscular. I worked, my brother helped me. My brother was about 312 lbs,
*6'1, I’m 6'2* he took off the weight, kept it off and worked to get the
muscle he has, he now weights 256(maybe more, maybe alittle less)lbs of
pure muscle. He’s not shredded like those ugly body builders are, he’s not
going for that. *I’m not either*
The way I see it,
A) if you are on your own then all you have is yourself. May as be in your
best shape if that challenge should come again. Mentally and physically.
B) we really should give our younger generations to enjoy life to it’s
fullest.
C) same with our older generations.
D) if you are overweight and are feeling ashamed or angered by this thread,
don’t. It’s only a little input as a wake up call.
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ickgirl
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 02:49 PM |
"a: you have some out of control hormone problem
b: lunch consisted of 1 lb of pasta, 2 fried chickens, a dozen or so
hamburgers, and some meatloaf
If a, then well, it's not you're fault, I'm not complaining about you, if
b, then hell yes there is a problem."
i think you missed my point entirely.
a: it's none of your business WHY someone has become severely obese
b: MOST people who become SEVERELY obese have other issues which lead to
the outward problem that you wish to bitch about. i'm not saying they
necessarily have a problem with glands, i'm saying - most people who become
severely obese have very real issues with food! how can you slam down on
someone who is having a HARD TIME? a really hard time
there are much bigger issues for you to be pissed off about then why some
BIG FATSO isn't as mobile as yourself.
people turn to food for all sorts of reasons, most of which aren't
pleasant. so kindly think about that for awhile. people are lonely,
scared, depressed, you name it - and it is SAD when people lose the will to
take care of themselves, it's not something which should piss another off.
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AloneSoul
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 02:55 PM |
Ack, sorry but I forgot to mention this. I’m not pissed about this, debates
just set a spark for me. I am not angry in anyway for people because of
their physical disabilities, it came off as I did then forgive me for
causing confusion.
I think I already have mentioned this...
Well, just to let you all know. heh. ____________________
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ickgirl
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 02:56 PM |
Alone -
I completely agree with you that this is a problem!
I just don't think it helps when folks blame and ridicule and call
overweight people lazy and stupid. (which was said by someone else in this
forum).
Weight has become an obsession. More people are obese and more people are
anorexic.
This is an insanely complex issue. One that is much more complicated than
food-to-hand-to-mouth. Obesity is part of a much larger picture - for the
individual and as a societal issue. Psychiatric pharmacology, anorexia,
bullemia, drug abuse, self-mutilation. People turn to all sorts of things.
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AloneSoul
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 02:59 PM |
Believe me I know. My father had the turning to foods problem along with
dealing with shift work. My mother for a short time too. *she cut down her
weight though* My sister was anorexic for a while and my bro was too for a
short time, back in high school, his wrestling coach forced him to make
weight.
He was one of the best in Southern Nj.
Fucker ruined that for him. Idiot "coach" was kicked out of the old school
though.
Ack, off topic. Sorry! ____________________
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Monolycus
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posted on 10/10/2002 at 03:33 PM |
Thanks, Court... although I think my efforts could have been better spent
elsewhere. There is no explaining that statistics are inherently
misleading, that Western medicine uses archaic and largely meaningless
anthropometrics to determine "ideal" height/weight ratios and that the
principles of human variation indicate that larger people with more body
fat are not necessarily any less mobile or healthy than thinner people to
anyone who has internalised the "superiority" of being thin. I can't point
out how flawed the data are if someone is using them to justify their
Weltbild, and I have better things to do than to do than to try to argue
with anyone whose priorities involve keeping their waists and their minds
as small as possible.
~Monolycus.
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Xaoswolf
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 posted on 10/10/2002 at 07:15 PM |
Ick,
The only reason I am voicing my opionins about this subject are because it
was brought up. In truth, I don't care if/why someone is fat, unless they
bring it up, or if their weight becomes a problem for me, like if a friend
comes to me with a about a weight problem, or if I can't get around someone
in a hallway. Other than that, I don't care, I don't get pissed about
someones weight or condition, it's not my problem. I have better things to
bitch about.
And as for the "lazy and stupid remark" I'll chalk that one up to me having
a really bad day, if you want details I can share, otherwise, I take it
back.
As it is however, I still believe that there are few people out there that
are severely overweight due to a physical condition, the rest are
overweight because the just have to finish that buck of chicken. I went to
Mc Donalds yesterday, I got a Big N Tastey, my friend got one too, he also
got a quarter pounder and a chicken sandwhich. He weighs 40-50 pounds more
than me, coincidence?
America as a nation is going to be overweight I believe for one simple
reason, we nolonger have to do hard physical labor. Take a look around,
even our farms are becoming more and more mechanized. Most of us get to
sit on our asses all day, or we only have to walk around in a 20' square.
If you have to life anything over 30 lbs, most places will require you to
have some one helpe you lift it. We rarely have to even lift a pencil
anymore, as long as you can lift your fingers you can type you can
effectively write reports/memos/letters.
Overweight insn't much the problem as being severely over weight. This is
where if they can't control their weight on their own, then they need seek
medical attention. There are several medical conditions that can arise
from being severely overweight, heart conditions are only one. ____________________
Sometimes I dream about dinosaurs shopping for cargo shorts at the Gap.
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Does that make me a bad person?
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