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dead-cell
Fanatic   Posts: 344 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/8/2007 at 10:05 PM |
Just a bit of intellectual fuck around for a Sunday morning ( if you are on
Sunday). The idea stems from Margerrt Cho's (sp?) dislike of the word(s)
"fag-hag" dispite the fact many non-hag stright gay friendly women support
gay rights. Dose a word/ name make all the difference? South Park toyied
around with the issues of gay marrige and domestic partnership by giving
gay character couples the term "Butt Buddies" in effort to please both
sides of the issue. To their credit the term points out that anything less
than a recognizable marrige is just an insulting name/ term. To be honest a
partnership does sound like having to with a lawfirm; calling one's
betroved a partner sounds even more lawyer-ish, and domestic partner wells
sounds like your spliting the rent. So in this new millenium what do we
have? People on the verge of equality, some ugly words, some misleading
terms, and the internet. I guess what I'm trying to get at: would (a)
society be more accepting of same sex marrige if there were words for those
involved? Are there words out there? Is there a wordsmith on this ever
evolving web whom might forge such words? Perhaps I'm being to hasty, maybe
I should remember William Shakespear's wisdom "What's in a name? That which
we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet."
*please excuse the spelling and grammer mistakes I've been up since 3:30am
Sat. ____________________
co-worker: "Your gay!?"
myself: "Didn't you see my rainbow pin?"
co-worker: "I just thought you liked skettles."
-(yes, it actually happened to me)
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic  Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/8/2007 at 11:01 PM |
All the long-term gay couples I know call each other "husband".
Unless they're girls. Then they call each other "wife".
husband-husband
wife-wife
[Edited on 8/19/2007 by Meranda_Jade] ____________________
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Sardonic-Pain
Fanatic  Posts: 248 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 22/8/2007 at 08:24 AM |
Partner does seem a bit booky. Life Mate always made me feel like gays are
some kind of zoo animals...and doesn't mating mean offspring? Anyways I
think it would all depend on the level of gay that we are talking about.
As we all know there are verying degrees of gay...from your butch to your
femmes so you would have to come of with words for both accordingly.
Now my gays call eachother husband and husband...one is a bit more femme
than the other but still pretty manly and no "man" (gay or not) like to be
sissified and made the wife...they are pretty good at keeping a nice
balance though.
Instead of calling me their fag-hag I get the nametag of wifey. Seriously
though your point is a very good one. Why by now are there no other terms
for this type of union?
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My Life is like a porno-Without the sex-Just the weird music
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W0rmW00d
Fanatic  Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/8/2007 at 06:41 AM |
Mating means fucking, partner is accurate and it is your own semantic that
makes it sound bookish, lawyerish and so forth, many people choose to call
each other their partner. True, it doesn't sound romantic in the same way,
but that is probably because it lacks the ceremonial trappings as much as
anything. Don't forget that husband means manager!
I don't see anything wrong with calling both partners of a gay union
'husband' or 'wife' that is what they are, isn't it? Married men and women?
In all but name, perhaps, and what is in a name? I'm pretty sure that what
gay people want from their union is security and the same respect as
marriage, whether it be called marriage or not. Where marriage or not
becomes an issue outisde this is really a matter of religious dispute, and
is part of a far wider problem which I won't go into here.
A special name for them? Surely what they want is to be allowed the same
(equal, is it called?) rights not special treatment, because special
treatment differentiates and that is the problem in the first place.
Besides, which would be called husband and which hossband? The more womanly
one gets the other name? Speaking of which, this degrees of gay thing is a
bit...wrong...isn't it? They aren't degrees of gay any more than how
effeminately I act is a degree of gay, or how rude some guy is is a degree
of manliness.
Basically, I would summarise by saying that there are not special names for
gay union because it is not a special (different, I mean. I'm sure that
people getting unified...or whatever, consider it pretty special) union,
nor do most people want it to be.
[Edited on 24/8/2007 by W0rmW00d] ____________________
Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
And the third angel sounded, and a troll army did descend upon the world.
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/8/2007 at 08:56 AM |
You know, I never really gave much thought to the actual definition of the
word "husband". That would explain a lot of the behavior of some husbands.
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Rogue
Member   Posts: 199 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/8/2007 at 08:19 PM |
| heyyyy....exactly how many husbands do you know like that? oh, wait, like
the husband of that wife i got grounded recently? yeah, okay, that makes
sense. ____________________
Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/9/2007 at 01:22 PM |
I was simply noting that many husbands that I know of tend to take on quite
the managerial role in a relationship.
I'm sure some wives would disagree that they are in need of management. ____________________
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 2/10/2007 at 12:14 AM |
And some need management. It seems true to me.
Some women ask for management as well, but that's another forum isn't it?
 ____________________
"People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life…I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
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dead-cell
Fanatic Posts: 344 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 20/10/2007 at 09:29 AM |
Recently I came across a word that fits into this discussion: Tribadism
(no, not as in triple bad)
To quote from 2000 Most Challenging & Obscure Words by Norman
Schur.
" Tribadism (TRIB u diz um) n. Tribadism is lesbianism; a
tribade (TRIB ud) is a lesbian, usually in the sense of a
homosexual female who assumes the male role, the 'active' partner.
Tribadic (trih BAD ik) is the adjective for the person and the
practice. All these words go back to the Greek noun tribas
(rubbing) and verb tribein (rub). In veiw of the anatomical
limitations involved, the etymology is self-explanatory." (p. 309)
And checking Dictionary.com dates the word to 1810-20.
I by no means expect lesbians to start introdusing their Tribades in the
fore-seeable future. I am subsequently still looking for the homosexual
male equivalent. ____________________
co-worker: "Your gay!?"
myself: "Didn't you see my rainbow pin?"
co-worker: "I just thought you liked skettles."
-(yes, it actually happened to me)
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Kahlir
Occasional Poster   Posts: 13 Registered: 8/12/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 25/10/2007 at 12:53 AM |
Well I prefer "lover" typically for whatever relationship that might insue.
I've seen too many married couples as of late fail in their relationship,
but many couples that address themselves as lovers tend to have longer
relationships. Even though I am straight I have many gay friends and have
seen my fair share of multiple arrangements and titles. I feel that for
some but definetly not all gay couples want some members of society to
approve or pass blessing on their relationship/marriage. However some
people will never change and their views are concrete. I personally dont
care what other people think. I think my next lover's title will be "Grand
Pooba". I am currently taking resumes you can leave them at the front
office. 
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