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Author: Subject: Tribute to Monolycus

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  posted on 31/3/2007 at 08:36 AM
"Monolycus. Never there was a man that lived up to his name so well as did the Lone Wolf. Demonised, hated, revered for taking the unpopular position and for playing the devil's advocate when the part needed playing. If you bother to dig beneath his crusty exterior, well, there is a spiky and unforgiving interior, but beneath THAT beats a heart of gold. Few have the patience for gold mining."

I wanted to take this opportunity to point out in a separate forum that Rogue's words here are more accurate than even he realized.

Also, so people would pay extra attention.

Some of you may not have realized this, but Mono hasn't been here for a long time.

He may not have made a big, dramatic announcement about the fact... but he is gone. Never coming back. His feelings were bruised one too many times, by people he'd had respect for and who he had thought had respect for him.

He now believes that nobody has even noticed that he is missing.. or even cares.

Well, I care.

I am sure that there are those of you who miss his voice around here as well.

If so, say something about it.

Maybe someday, he will peek in here out of curiosity... and then he will see how much he really means to people here....

and how much he is valued and how deeply he is missed.

And if he really is gone for good, let this forum stand as a memorial to one of the greatest and most colorful members that Shmeng has ever had.




 

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  posted on 31/3/2007 at 09:54 AM
Aww. That sucks. I m going to miss reading what he had to say. He was hands down one of the most intellegent men I have ever seen. And if he is gone for good then he will truly be missed.

not to mention who will ever forget him in the french maid outfit?

 

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  posted on 31/3/2007 at 11:14 AM
I noticed... and I cared... plain and simple

 

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  posted on 31/3/2007 at 11:55 AM
Thank you, Meranda... it needed to be said.

I know Monolycus... I know that under the layers upon layers of prickles, the heart of gold still exists... I wish I could be given the opportunity to mine for it... I am sorry that he seems to believe that I need to have the prickles turned against me... but I have not given up, nor do I ever intend to. I will stay here, waiting for the opportunity to dig in through those layers, inch by bleeding inch, until I can somehow make him see that I never intended his harm. That I love him as I love my own brother. That my heart bleeds at the wound I unintentionally gave him.

The whole situation makes me ache inside. If there was something I could do, I would do it. If there is ever anything I can do to reach Mono's well-protected heart... just let me know, please.

I do think of him often... and miss him deeply... whether he comes back to Shmeng or not is not that important - it's just a website. I just wish I could have his trust back.

Mono once started a topic about what qualities are true and absolute virtue... together, we hit upon one - honesty to one's self. In all honesty to myself, in my heart... I never intended his hurt. In all self-honesty, I saw him unintentionally wounding someone who in all self-honesty was just trying to hold a debate of mutual respect... In all self-honesty, I was not trying to attack him, just to open his eyes to what he was doing - something that I knew in his heart he would not want to do if he knew... In all self-honesty... I would not take those words back... but knowing what I do now... I would have added some... something to let him know the love that backed the rebuke... Hind sight, they say, is 20/20... if only I had known what that rebuke would do to him...

Yes, people... this is what it sounds like. I was the one who ultimately gave Mono the last unintentioned blow that drove him away. True, it was mainly because it seems to be ingrained into his mind that he is unwanted, and that others only pretend to like him... but still... it was my words to him that finally made him decide to leave. It is my shame and my sorrow.

I mean it, Meranda. If there is ANYTHING in my power that I can do to help him see that, although I did speak pretty sharply, that I still love him, that I always loved him, and never wanted him to leave... if there is ANYTHING... I will do it...

I hope he does come back and read this. I hope he reads it, and I hope enough is still left in his heart of trust for me that he will read this as the truth, coming straight out of my heart...

Please, Mono... please forgive me for the wound I dealt you...

 

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  posted on 31/3/2007 at 12:20 PM
I have this sick weird feeling that I missed something...

I don't like hearing that Mono is gone.

Every self respecting coyote needs a lone wolf to yodel at on occasion, if not constantly, at all hours of the night. HE EVEN YODELED BACK!!! Never ran into one that did that, it was awesome.

I hope he didn't actually go away for good, I would be exceptionally sad, perhaps he is just taking a walk...or not feeling social or something? The world wouldn't be the same without mono...

I still don't get that "prickly" outer shell thing...Mono was all gold, granted at times it was molten, but gold is gold...sometimes it is even chocolate gold.

Mono, if you are gone, then I hope you stop to read this.

Theres a place in all my stories for you, and there is a stone at my crossroads placed with your name.

 

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  posted on 31/3/2007 at 05:01 PM
I've noticed. It's impossible not to. And I miss him. A lot.

 

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  posted on 31/3/2007 at 10:11 PM
I have had the privilege of speaking to Mono on a few occasions recently. He is aware that a few people have noticed he is missing, but that most are not aware of how long the time span has been. Even though I had been aware of the situation that had made him feel unwelcome, I had originally thought he had been taking a break from the site as so many of us do from time to time, for various reasons...sometimes personal, sometimes business, and sometimes to take care of other things.

Recently, I had posted a photo of him, that he had given me permission to post. When I sent him some of the comments posted to the picture, he seemed quite happy to know that the reactions to that picture showed that the picture had been taken in the correct context...which was to be fun and to get some fun reactions.

I don't know if he will truly ever return to the site or not, but I do not feel that all hope is permanently lost on that. He is truly a deep and intelligent soul that leaves a void in his absence from this site. I miss greatly not having him around the site. His points and discussions were lots of fun to take part in and I enjoyed the discussions immensely.

 

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  posted on 31/3/2007 at 11:15 PM
I am assuming this will fall upon deaf ears or be mistaken in the way that many things I say tend to be, but I do indeed feel the loss of his presence here. The way he gave a solid drubbing to Rogue in the democracy forum was classic, as many have not the fortitude or nerve to stand up to him due to the velvet rope effect, and often he echoes a sentiment before I have a chance to express it. Mono, you are needed here as much as a captain of a starship is needed, and wherever you are I pray you return from Serenity Valley.
 

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  posted on 1/4/2007 at 10:25 AM
Unfortunately I just kinda like hang around and stuff so I really don't get to know people on an all too personal level. That's just me I guess. But how can you not miss Mono. Come back soon please...We need you around this place.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2007 at 11:17 AM
Comte
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this was about mono... not your beef with Rogue... Period... no debate... stop it...

 

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  posted on 1/4/2007 at 05:03 PM
I have noticed, I do care, I do miss him!…
I just thought he was too busy in Korea (still?)
I remember him fondly. I miss gazing upon his intellect with wonder, the gargantuan cerebral spars that defied all logic with pure logic. The cunning snippets of whit like a well-placed arrow; I miss. The cognitive ease gifted him the rest of the world yearns for; I miss. His reserve and culture never giving into sway, his humility, his polite welcomes; I miss. I know I did little, offered little to hold his interest. I know I can do little, but perform this small bit of necromancy. I hold hope that I might formulate some question, which would eco through the ether finding it’s way to Mono’s ears (eyes) reverberating in his cranium, and beckoning him back into the rich soil of this site. Till then I will remember him in aw.

P.S.
And in true DC fashion: How could we lose such a member that looks so good in a maid’s outfit.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2007 at 05:05 PM
* has nothing to do with the present topic, sorry*
Does Comte have absoulutly nothing better to do then come where not invited?
just wondering

I will unhijack this forum now

 

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  posted on 2/4/2007 at 10:02 AM
*getting back on topic*

It looks like a lot of people are really feeling the pain of your loss, buddy.

What not everybody here realizes is that Monolycus was more than an intelligent wit. I know there are those here who spoke to him one on one and got to know what an incredibly sweet person he really is. He's talked to people when they've been down, helped with patching up problems, and really just been there for anyone who took the time and trouble to really talk to him and get to know him.

Besides being able to carry on incredibly stimulating conversations, he's all kinds of fun to just hang out with. He cracks me up with totally random observations that turn out to be not so random after all. It is a joy and a pleasure to hear him sing. And he has a beautiful smile.

He's hands down one of the best friends I've ever had in my life. I know I can count on him to be absolutely honest with me.. brutally so... and absolutely loyal. He will stick by a friend until there is no way that the friendship can be salvaged, and will only let go with great reluctance.

There really is very little in him that is unreasonable. With him, what you see is what you get, with no games or hidden agendas. It's very refreshing to know someone like that. You don't run across it often.


I hope he comes back here and sees all the wonderful things that people have said about him... and knows just how well-thought-of he is.

We all love you, Monolycus.

 

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  posted on 2/4/2007 at 02:48 PM
yes, we do. I know I do...

There are many people I like here... many I enjoy... but there was a list I always had in my mind of those I loved... the ones who I considered family, even though we had never met. And I always hoped to meet them. Mono was always on this list. The rift that opened between us caused me very real pain, like being estranged from a beloved brother...

I want Mono back...

 

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  posted on 2/4/2007 at 07:46 PM
straight up. mono was the reason i ever considerd joining this sight.

i hope he finds this thread and realises that he is cared for and highly respected.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2007 at 08:47 AM
Safe to say I wouldn't be the man I am today if it weren't for Mono.

Been hearing tell there was something saccharine afoot, so it's a good thing I loaded up on insulin before I swung by to check it out. Thanks go out to those to whom it applies. As for the rest of you y'all, don't think I'm such a softie that a few kind words for the benefit of an audience are going to dilute my disagreeable disposition any. I'm still as mad as a scientist about some past precedents, and it's going to take more than a pretty eulogy before it's air through my engine.

That having been said:

Rogue: "...beneath THAT beats a heart of gold. Few have the patience for gold mining."

I keep meaning to have that looked at. I wake up with prospectors in my pleural cavity.

Meranda_Jade: "Well, I care."

I never doubted that.

"He will stick by a friend until there is no way that the friendship can be salvaged, and will only let go with great reluctance."

I've gotten a little more elastic on that point in my old age. Maybe I've just gotten quicker at figuring out what's not salvageable.

Schizo: "I would not take those words back... but knowing what I do now... I would have added some... something to let him know the love that backed the rebuke... Hind sight, they say, is 20/20... if only I had known what that rebuke would do to him..."

There's a bit of a sticking point there. What's done is done, but what's done was unnecessary. You came down on the wrong side of that one, plain and simple. I was the one playing defense when you had such lovely things to say about my character, not the other way around... but I am not at all surprised that you felt you needed to defend your "certified" tuff guy from the Big, Bad Wolf. His record for finishing his own battles isn't as high as his record for starting them.

Since just about everything in this craphill world has some arbitrary trade value attached to it, I'd say it's a pretty safe wager that there's those as make their living working out the worth of everything. I don't know any of those folks up close and personal, but I conjure that if I asked to see their calculus, the scarcity of a commodity would go quite a ways towards bumping up the numbers on an item's price tag. That being the case, I'd expect to pay more for loyalty than I would for gold, pound for pound. And I'd expect to drop even more for fair dealings.

Interesting the rôles that get played here.

Dolo: "HE EVEN YODELED BACK!!!"

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICOLAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Merry_Widow "I've noticed. It's impossible not to. "

Oh, come on. I didn't smell THAT bad!

Comte: "The way he gave a solid drubbing to Rogue in the democracy forum was classic, as many have not the fortitude or nerve to stand up to him due to the velvet rope effect..."

Thing about Rogue is you can disagree with something he says without him taking it as some kind of personal invalidation. Rogue doesn't need anyone's damned validation. I don't see a "velvet rope" so much as I see them as can dish out but not take. Rogue definitely ain't one of those. You might want to address him yourself sometime.

I will have to tip my hat to you, though... I've seen some trolls in my day and you are beyond any doubt the most brilliant one of all. You can get folk to twitch faster than Abbadon himself. One post out of you has them churning out more rubbish than FEMA could cart off in a year's time. +10 and a cheese danish for at least being a master of your art.

Starlight: Thanks for being such a great friend when I needed one. You are very much appreciated.

Sardonic-Pain "Come back soon please...We need you around this place."

Looks to me like you could use a good cleaning staff 'round here, too.

feral: "this was about mono... not your beef with Rogue... Period... no debate... stop it..."

It still is about Mono. Go LARP up your own damn memorial. Full stop.

dead-cell: "His reserve and culture never giving into sway, his humility, his polite welcomes"

I could take lessons in comportment from whomever YOU'RE talking about. I don't ever remember being that genteel. Thanks, though.

pale-face: "straight up. mono was the reason i ever considerd joining this sight."

Now, now. Let's not play the blame game.

"i hope he finds this thread and realises that he is cared for and highly respected."

Actually, thanks. Means a lot, as do the majority of the comments here. I usually find mutual admiration displays a little tasteless, but with some of the fellating that has apparently been going on in my absence, I'd say it's high time a bit of it got thrown my way. Muchos gracias.

As you were.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2007 at 09:59 AM
I take the rebuke, Mono... can't say I don't entirely deserve it.

All I can say is, there are two sides to everything... at the very least... and there was never any degree of attack intended towards you in the forum in question. And when no attack was intended, a strong defense always seems like an offense...

I am very sorry for the loss of your esteem. It was always very valuable to me.

It is a fact. You ARE quick to see attack where there is none attended... and also to see rejection when in fact you are welcomed. My anger at that circumstance was almost certainly over-zealous... but I was not attacking your character, but finding variance with your behavior and view of someone who was struggling to make himself clear. You did mistake the man. But I am sorry I was overly harsh and neglected to make clear at that time the regard I hold for you.

But if you do not hold the same regard for me any longer, I guess there is nothing to be done. Except learn from the experience... I am sorry...

 

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  posted on 3/4/2007 at 03:08 PM
But I will say one thing in Feral's defense, whether you think I should defend him or not - Feral may have enjoyed LARPing as a game once upon a time, but here and in the rest of his life, he does not role play. What you see is the real Feral... no mask and no editing to make him more fit for general consumption. You may love him, you may hate him, you may be indifferent to him, but more than any other person I have ever encountered, he shows himself for exactly who he is... warts and all...

He will be the first to admit he is a damaged, fucked-up, often unbalanced person... but he IS honest and genuine. If he says he is confused, then he is confused. If he asks a question, it is because he desires an answer. If he is angry, he will say so. If he is attacking, it is unmistakable. Everything he says he would do in person, he would actually do in person under the described circumstances. That is just Feral. I hoped that with a little explanation, that people would care enough to see him for who he is. That's why I urged him to post his two most recent articles.

If you are going to despise the guy, at least despise him for who he is.

And if you are going to despise me... well, I am willing to admit you are at least partly in the right. I am a know-it-all busy-body who is in love with my big Mother Confessor role. I just love playing the mediator... dishing out the love and the spankings, and lapping up the attention. This is all true - I will admit it. But I am also genuine in that when I say I love someone, that means I love them. Doesn't mean I'm perfect - just that I mean their help and not their harm. This time I screwed up. In trying to defend a man who, in this case, was not able to defend himself because he was not able to communicate himself... I became over-zealous. I do that. Yes, it is a flaw. But I was right to defend Feral. You were mistaken about him. And still are. And I had no clue that you felt attacked... if I had known that, I definitely would have handled things very differently.

If friends cannot be mistaken, and if friends are not allowed to get angry... then you are not going to find many people fit to be your friends. I am sorry you do not find me fit to be your friend. But this is me. Flawed like us all... like you, like Feral, like MJ and Rogue and Dolo and all the rest of humanity. I'm sorry my flaw hurt you... it does not mean that I am not your friend - it just means that I am human.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2007 at 08:40 PM
I want to perform fellatio on him. Again. And to find a firefly and give it to him. And to show him the peace and love that is hiding in his golden heart beneath the defence walls that he needed so long ago, but are getting in his way these days. And to remind him that we are still just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year. And to let him know the van was useless and I felt like the widow giving a mite to Jesus, but it's all I had. And to take back the "the P is silent" remark. And to remind him that Jagdfreunde has two parts, literally and figuratively. I want to switch lives with him because he deserves mine more than I do and I deserve his more than he does. I want people to not hate him, and I want him to not hate people, it's a huge waste of time and energy for everyone. Also, I want some cottage cheese.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2007 at 10:13 PM
Mono, I imagine that you smell like pine trees. I wanna put you on a string and hang you from my rearview mirror. That's fresh, baby.

 

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