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Author: Subject: Bat help

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  posted on 5/4/2005 at 09:44 AM
How the hell do you take care of a small(body smaller than a fist, 10-inch wingspan), brown, eastern-european bat? The biology lab just got one...the teachers were going to use him for dissection, but they couldn't stand the whining and pleading of hundreds of students and he became the lab's pet...thing is, we don't really know what to feed him. Well, except insects, but you try to catch enough flies...The animal rescue/pet shop/vet option is out of the question...the teachers said we keep him, alive or dead. And...where should we keep him? Right now, he's living in a jar...we were thinking a bird cage

 

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  posted on 18/5/2005 at 04:54 PM
you're most welcome. I mean that whole heartedly. Down to my fucking toes.

 

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  posted on 18/5/2005 at 06:17 AM
Welli'm only a major, but thanks for the compliment.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2005 at 11:14 PM
Nobody's ever accused you of being a gentleman, so you're clear on that point. Also, I hardly need anything coming from someone who acts like an ill mannered child with a vocabulary. I can talk and type how I want and if you don't understand it or like it, do what I do with you, and disregard it.
And please be specific, or is this another general asshole statement? You're getting really good at those lately.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2005 at 05:57 AM
bettsy: Fogive my obvious intrusion, but would you mind stating you age again for the record? (How ungentlemanly of me!) I am confused as to whether you are really 5 years old or whether you simply type that way.

 

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  posted on 22/4/2005 at 10:47 PM
word. not bad for a stupid yank.

We put up a bat house not long ago, I'm hoping that in the next year or so we'll have some bats of our own!

 

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  posted on 21/4/2005 at 12:16 AM
Bettie, I knew bats were similar to primates, but I learned a thing or two from your post. Was good to learn a little bit more about them.

 

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  posted on 20/4/2005 at 11:17 PM
As usual.

 

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  posted on 18/4/2005 at 10:11 AM
Its the something stupid option.

 

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  posted on 14/4/2005 at 11:03 PM
Yay for dolo! I "adopted" a mexican freetail through bat conservation international. We named him javier. Michael caught a bat who got into the radio station booth when we were in college. When he put the box outside to let it go, the ungrateful thing glared at him and barked at him then took off.

 

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  posted on 14/4/2005 at 10:58 PM
Abb, I do know shit about bat physiology, so yank yourself. I know they have the same number of bones in their bodies as humans, that they are their own class and species, that if they had to be classified to the closest species they share traits with they would be primates, and that they aren't classified as primates solely based on their ability to echolocate, and that their skeletons are nearly identical to humans with the exception of the skull and elongated arm and finger bones. Amongst other things. So to echo your own sudden inexplicable unreasonable hostility, go fuck yourself.

Secondly, it depends on the area and the type of bat. What I meant by "one baby a year" (both bats and humans) is not that they're INCAPABLE of bearing one a year, it's that they reproduce not like cats or rats which are in litters, but singletons, and like humans also, sometimes twins. I know that in southern bats who do not hibernate, I suppose it is feasable that they reproduce and give birth to one or two pups twice in a year. In the north however, this does not happen. The bats breed in late august or sept before hibernation, and the sperm is kept in stasis in the female bat throughout the winter hibernation period, and only when she wakes in april does she become pregnant, form in a maternity colony, and then give birth to one to two pups. The pups are dependent on their mother for the next two months, the babies emerging to begin to fend for themselves in june-july.

What I was trying to make stille aware of, is that wiping out even a few bats or, god forbid, even a small colony, does massive damage to bat populations because in contrary to people's belief that they are "flying rodents" and that they reproduce like rodents, that they reproduce at a very slow rate when you take into account their ability to recover in population from even moderate "wipeout" of their physical numbers or their habitats.

So, are you done being an asshole or are your little prissy european undies still in a big fat knot over something stuipd?

 

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  posted on 12/4/2005 at 08:27 AM
Huh...funny coincidence, I recently rehabilitated a little mexican short-tail bat thingie about a week or so ago, he ran into a tree I was passed out under. Found that some crushed up mealworms fed through a small syringe can do wonders, also a high calorie food suppliment can make a difference. I named it Absimiliaird, and hopefully he's still kicking balls bat style out in the wild blue.

As for hurting things to learn...

I thought that pain, cruelty and all that sort of jazz walked side by side with learning...sad, but ultimately true, leastways I believe it so.

plus, vivisection IS cool if you have power tools.

 

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  posted on 11/4/2005 at 01:20 PM
Goodness me... i wouldnt recommend living in the country... i know kids who torture animals for the hell of it and annoyingl ittle redneck boys who shoot harmless birds for the hell if it with their shotguns... rather pointless and stupid. but living around them os much i am a bit desensatized to it. though i do NOT agree with it.

 

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  posted on 11/4/2005 at 11:24 AM
Abby, baby: sorry... cannot comply...

 

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  posted on 11/4/2005 at 08:37 AM
And if you wouldn't mind not calling me baby. If you want to refere to me by any title make it my actual title please.

 

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  posted on 11/4/2005 at 08:34 AM
I think your record is broken.

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 03:36 PM
Abby, baby, 1) I offered no advice, I made a concise statement 2) if I had offered advice, you would be free take or ignore it because 3) I don't care... you are still grasping at straws...

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 02:33 PM
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Addy, baby: after consulting with three degreed individuals (in the english language) your seantics make no difference, both statements mean PRECISELY the same thing... you are attempting to make someone sound stupid and bait them... and this time... you are grasping at straws...


I find it hard to accept advice on the English language from someone who could write a paragraph like that.

 

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  posted on 10/4/2005 at 02:59 AM
I've not yet gone to college, but I thought they meant the same as well.

I just figured there was some inflection or something I was missing which would make them different.

[Edited on 4/10/2005 by MystryssRavynDarque]

 

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  posted on 9/4/2005 at 09:36 PM
Addy, baby: after consulting with three degreed individuals (in the english language) your seantics make no difference, both statements mean PRECISELY the same thing... you are attempting to make someone sound stupid and bait them... and this time... you are grasping at straws...

 

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