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Author: Subject: Karma Free Zone

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  posted on 26/8/2003 at 03:02 AM
Actually, Bettie, those SUV strollers are every mother's dream! You can take them anywhere, except maybe a crowded mall. Those dinky little umbrella strollers won't even push over grass, the 3-wheeled racing strollers are tippy and tough to steer, but the 4-wheel Jeeps (yes, they are actually manufactured by Jeep) can even be pushed down a rough woodland path, or on a dirt road, or through a goddamn meadow if you want. Not to mention enough pockets, etc. to almost make you stop wishing you had 4 arms. And nice little accessories like cup holders for the bottle or sippie, and a place to put a stash of cheerios or goldfish crackers, to keep the little munchkin satisfied.

Anyway, most of the fat kids I know are poor scum. We've got a family of them living up above us, and they're as annoying as hell. They get fed cheap junkfood paid by foodstamps. Our porch is quite literally crumbling from the sheer weight of that entire obese family (grandmother, mother, 5 year old boy, and 3 year old girl) thumping down from the second level to the ground all at once. And the landlord wonders why the puny wooden beam he uses to support that corner keeps falling down!

Not to mention, the little brats like to stare in our windows and door to watch our TV. And someone, one of them or their little blank-faced friend peeled our bumper sticker off our car. And the grandmother is always screaming at them at the top of her lungs, and I HATE it!

 

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  posted on 26/8/2003 at 03:38 PM
Yes! That's right, my pretties! Kill the fat little white fucks! Kill them all!

 

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  posted on 26/8/2003 at 08:04 PM
I did not know those strollers were made by jeep, that is too hillarious.
My problem with them is that they are not used for the most part for "off roading". Yes, on occasion I see a woman jogging while pushing one of those, and that's great.
Most people who get them use them IN THE MALL. I'm not kidding, fucking ramming everybody, getting all pissy that they can't fit through certain isles or that people won't get out of their way, barge through crowds using it like an icebreaker barge, all the while sipping their latte sitting in their convenient cupholder and talking on their cell phone (hm, kind of like most SUV drivers). I"ve had my foot run over three times by pushy bitches that had those strollers, and at DISNEYLAND some woman was actually just standing there bumping against my leg with it so I'd move, no excuse me, no please move, nothing, just bump bump bump. SO I jammed my foot into the front wheel and told her that unless she wanted to see a good old fashioned baby tipping, she'd back her shit up, say excuse me, and get the fuck away from me. I thought she was going to die, my sister heard me and gave me the evil eye, and I didn't give a damn because that bitch had it COMING.
My sister has a non suv stroller that is sturdy, maneuverable, has all the pockets and whatnot and takes up about a third of the space of the Jeep ones. I'm sure she couldn't take it offroading, and shouldn't, anymore than the Jeep strollers belong in a throng of people. THERE! *WHEW* OFF MY CHEST, DEVIL STROLLERS, BE GONE!!

And schitz if I ever win the lottery I'll buy you one if you promise that you NEVER EVER EVER take it to the mall or disneyland. Cross my heart

 

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  posted on 27/8/2003 at 02:17 AM
I seem to have a sign on me somewhere that says "Please just roll your stroller over my fucking feet." I've gotten an occasional apology when someone runs their stroller over my feet, even when I've backed up in the aisle so they can pass by. It looks like they move towards me no matter how much room I give them. So this weekend, I had a racecar stroller come flying towards me (and I happened to be wearing sandals), and the momma didn't seem to notice that her older child missed my unprotected toes by mere inches with the wheels. So I walked over to where they were, and acted like I was mesmerized with the bathroom sign near their head, and went "oh sorry" when I walked into the asinine older child. My hubby said the mommy looked at me like she couldn't believe I was walking straight into her kid while I wasn't paying attention, and she looked really shocked when I bumped into him (gently of course, and oh of course by accident), but she didn't say a word. I felt a lot better afterward though myself.

 

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  posted on 27/8/2003 at 02:51 AM
Hey, any mommy worth their salt knows that you can't go shopping properly without one of those cheap little umbrella strollers! So compact, so maneuverable, they work like a charm. And they fold up into almost nothing, you can hang them on your arm, they are incredibly light, and you can stick them into even the most cram-packed trunk. I would NEVER bring a Jeep stroller shopping! That would be a nightmare!

 

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  posted on 27/8/2003 at 10:48 AM
Exactly, but my problem is those asinine iditos take them EVERYWHERE. You suggest a fold up stroller and they're like "oh heavens NO! not for MY little snowflake! "
They're just like dickhead SUV drivers, especially the ones that buy off road vehicles and never ever ever take them off road. My parents own one SUV and one car, and they never take it off road, but if I promise I'll be careful they let me drive it into the mountains, and they don't drive like dicks, they drive like middle aged people in a nice car ie: kind of slow, but usually the speed limit and way too cautious to be fun.

 

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  posted on 27/8/2003 at 01:04 PM
This is for real? OK

I FUCKING HATE ALL THOSE NATIVE ENGLISH-SPEAKERS WHO POST AND POST AND POST AND POST, WRITTING IN AN ALMOST UNCOMPREHENSIBLE LANGUAGE THAT ONLY TANGENTIALLY SHARES SOME OF THE GRAMMAR OF GOOD OLD ENGLISH AND ALMOST NONE OF ITS VOCABULARY, WITH NO REGARD TO POOR NON-NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS ON THE SITE WHO REALLY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK IS THE FUCKING POST ALL ABOUT WITHOUT HAVING TO RUN FOR A DICTIONARY JUST TO FIND THAT MOST OF THE KEY WORDS DON'T EVEN EXIST.

And now that we are at it...

I ALSO FUCKING HATE THE FACT THAT CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CALL MEXICO CITIZENS MEXICANS, BOLIVIA CITIZENS BOLIVIANS, CANADA CITIZENS CANADIANS AND BRAZIL CITIZENS BRAZILIANS, BUT CALL THEMSELVES AMERICANS AS IF ALL THE REST WEREN'T AMERICANS.

Wow, that really felt good. I just hope I did not overuse this karma free zone...

 

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  posted on 27/8/2003 at 07:16 PM
First Complaint: Athegarn, Sorry. I'm sure I've probably done it before.

Second Complaint: Well, way back in the 19th century, we were fixing to make all of America into one big USA, but (thankfully for Mexico and others) , we tired of war mongering and called ourselves 'isolationists' up until WWI. So we really were trying to include all other America-dwelling peoples under the name of 'Americans' but they just were putting up too much of a fight to be profitable.

By the way, what -should- we call ourselves then? United Statizens?


[Edited on 8/28/2003 by Ironboots]

 

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  posted on 28/8/2003 at 12:48 AM
Please, Ironboots, no need to apologyze. This is just an exercise of sarcasm. I actually the way you all write, even if at some times it might be annoying. It improves my English, now I can name a penis seven different ways, for instance. Perhaps through my reading of Smeng I won't sound like a Jane Austen book when I get there (I understand girls don't really think highly of men who talk like Jane Austen).

As for the second... Well in proper Spanish you are called Estadounidenses (Unitedstatesians) (that sounded AWFUL) but many times we call you just Americans (a weakness I have been trying to erradicate from my own verbosincracy) or, at least, Northamericans. Yankee or Gringo are not as used in Spain as they are in Latin America. We also have Guiri (geerie) byt that only applies to tourists and includes the English (but not the Irish). How would you call it in your own language, I don't know. I once asked here and I was answered there is no word to say "Citizen of the United States of America".

The point is not the word. It's the mentality. Even you, whom I consider a clever, independent nice fellow, say something like "we really were trying to include all other America-dwelling peoples under the name of 'Americans'". They ARE included under that name, damnit, and are included by their own fucking geographical right! They don't need to be included. Using such a general word to describe a concrete situation, using that sineqdoque (I don't know how to translate that, it's the usage of the name of the part to describe the whole) denotes that pompous arrogance of which you have been accused so many times.

When you speak several languages you come to realise how much language structure defines the way a people think. It's not only a derivate of that society's needs, it also configures them. For instance, the Eskimo are supposed to have a zillion different words to say "snow", each one having subtle differences from the other. This does not only mean that they can see the differences, it means that their children will search for those differences in the snow when they learn the words. it's a two-way street: the word exists because the reality exists, but that reality is much more percievable because the word exists. Furthermore, many times a concept exists because a word exists. Learning other languages opens your mind to beautiful new concepts with delicate connotations that make them different from others, or utterly new. For instance there is no word in Spanish to translate arousal. That concept was new to me.

Following that line of thought, as long as USA citizens continue calling themselves Americans they will be subconsciously trained from childhood, by their very own language-thought structure to see themselves as "the part of America that counts" or something, which is certainly not a... Well, a proper attitude for the world we are supposed to be building (yeah, I am an idealist) in which we are all equals regardless of our nationality. And THAT is what annoys me.

I am a 1st century greek. I don't care the fact Rome rules the world instead of Greece. I care that Rome thinks she IS the world.

 

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  posted on 28/8/2003 at 01:06 AM
AND I am a pompous arrogant European
 

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  posted on 28/8/2003 at 05:20 AM
my favorite rant is about people who refuse to learn, especially language and math (inter-related subjects since they both teach you how to think). Its REALLY nice to know that other people have frustration about it.

Another reason that we call ourselves "Americans" is because our geographical location is all we have in common. Our states are not "united", less so that the united soviet states were. Some citizens have allegance to thier state, some to the federal government, some to thier city-state (there are about 50 city-states in the "united" states of america), and some to thier home country/nationality/identity.

We do not speak the same languages (our schools are taught in at least 3 different langages). We do not have a national history. Some states have only been part of the union for 100 years, some have been part of the union for 400 years. We also have a phenomena that i have not witnessed in European counties. we have "china town" "little Italy" and "Korea 'burb", areas where people for other countries have settled and retained most of thier home country life (language, stores, style of dress, langauge, newspapers, education, culture). I differentiate these from the ethinic ghettos of European cities because they are expensive, exclusive, and are maintained DISPITE the pressures of the local government.

IF we had a national identity, shared native language, common national history, or even a sense of being united against something, we could then, by the structures of our language, be called unitedstatesians. But we dont. our national identity is based on where our parents, grandparents, or great grandparents came from, leading to "clannish" behaviors. Our shared language is borrowed and bastardized from our parent nations. Our common history is the history, for most americans, is one of immegrants, based or shaped by the country our parents' families came from. And we have been in a state (ha!) of civil war for over 100 years between the states, the native people's and thier conquerors, and between religious groups, tho most of it goes unreported.

Most often when an "american" travels to another country we dont call ourselves "american" unless we are in trouble and want to use the power of that country. It is far more likely that we will lie and say we Canadian, or say which state we are from rather than "admit" to being "american". Why you ask? Because we arent american. We are Irish, or a Texan, or Baptist, or something else. We just live in the United States of America.

 

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  posted on 28/8/2003 at 06:25 AM
Just to add to the confusion, I'm pretty sure we actually use sinquedoq (I just mangled that spelling, sorry) here as well. I just went to look it up and see if I could find the "english" spelling and it's <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=synecdoche">synec doche (<-- that there work is a link by the way)</a>. I knew I had heard the term and I had to know if it was just being used by multilingual scholars who were fed up with english or if it was actually a part of our lexicon.

I hate the fact that I do not know every word in this bloody confusing language that I calaim as my own.

 

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  posted on 5/9/2003 at 09:07 AM
I HATE PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU THEY LOVE YOU, AND THAT YOU MEAN THE WORLD TO THEM AND THEY WOULD NEVER HURT YOU, WHO THEN BREAK UP WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T FUCK THEM.

 

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  posted on 5/9/2003 at 12:13 PM
I know a guy like that. He used to date my roommate. If it makes you feel better, I love you, and you don't even have to sleep with me. Though if you ever want to, I am located in Spokane, WA...

 

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  posted on 5/9/2003 at 01:32 PM
I hate Oscar Wilde! I hate his stupid fucking quotes! I hate the utter BS he writes! I hate that crap people refer to as "the wit of Oscar Wilde." But most of all I hate it when people think they sound refined and intellectual by quoting Oscar Wilde! (this last one stems from my hatred of people more pretentious than mee)

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOO PRETENTIOUS FUCK HEADS! IT WASNT CLEVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO WHEN HE SAID IT AND IT'S DEFINATLY NOT CLEVER NOW THAT YOR QUOTING IT!

[Edited on 9/9/2003 by IamSquid]

 

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  posted on 5/9/2003 at 08:51 PM



replies to lots of things I've missed the past few days....

fat kids.... my sister's kid is also fat... same age as my nine year old and wears a size 14 in children's... this affects me only because my sister was giving me her kid's hand-me-downs for a while and now they don't fit my daughter.... this is because the kid was taught that Lunchables and frozen pizza were acceptable meals all her life. I recall a conversation she had with my daughter, when the kids were given frozen pizza and my daughter expressed amazement over it (she had only had pizza made entirely, from the flour up, from scratch) my niece said," You know what? There's a pizza that's NEVER BEEN FROZE. It's called Papa John's." This kid refuses food from fast food places in lieu of an uncooked hot dog. She does not eat vegetables. My kids eat what they're given... even if they don't like it, I make them try it and see (althought in some cases I can see where they'd throw a fit, and I don't blame them. I can't eat liver, either...) They will eat spinach though, as well as tofu. It depends on how it's served of course, but at least they're never afraid of trying different stuff, and they would live entirely on fruit if I would let them. My oldest daughter is starting to feel sorry for animals, and I may have to alter her diet if she gets very adamant about it as an older kid, but I will respect her wishes. I don't mind cooking several different meals for different diets a night. At least she'll be healthier than someone who lives on convenience foods all the damn time. My sister tries, but she started raising kids at a time when she should have been learning to grow up herself. She let them get into bad habits, and now, they're spoiled. She admits it, but thinks she can do nothing about it. She needs just a few nights of letting them go hungry before they eat what's put in front of them. She hasn't the willpower because she recalls our life and wants to "do the best" for her kids. I want to do the best for mine too, but I know that you can't protect them from everything out there without them being severely stunted. Sure, we had a hell-life. Sure, you don't have to raise your kids in a hell-hole for them to know right from wrong, or to build character... but you can't coddle them, either. They need room to become self-reliant people on their own. I've always said, I'm a guide. I don't own these little people, but it is my responsibility to see that they grow into reasonably self-sufficient adults. Too few parents these days see things like this and let their kids lead the way. This is the reason for parents. A small child cannot support itself, cannot make rational decisions about its life, and is not emotionally mature enough to stand on its own and be proud and happy with itself. Anyone who has had a beloved pet ought to know what's good for a child.

Pixi... (I apologize to the few but ought-to be-proud who aren't like this) Most males are like that. so are most females, as well, to be honest. Love lasts a short time, sometimes, there are exceptions... but usually when you make the decision to bare your heart to someone, and leave yourself open for that shot, you're going to get hurt. The problem is, there are always conditions set on love. (I will love you as long as you are what I expect you to be) is one of the classics. this can be extended to meaning (Will she or won't she?) It almost has nothing to do with your personality. If it does, that's a good one, and hang onto that person for as long as possible...

Schizo... I agree about the SUV strollers with you.. wish I had one when I had the twins... as it was, I had a side-by-side seater for the two boys. It wouldn't fit on the sidewalks in Denver. It was horrible about going over the slightest bump. I would have LOVED an SUV JEEP cross-country stroller. I would not have run it over anyone's toes, though. I at least have some sense... as for shopping... I NEVER went shopping with the whole zoo... not until they were old enough to sit in the carts on their own (there are carts nowadays that can accomodate two small children. Thank you, grocery stores. They have grocery carts nowadays shaped like little race cars. It makes the kids want to go to the store with Mommy again....

Arthegarn... I agree the english language spoken by americans is butchered to the point of incomprehenison. We do need to just get over ourselves.... I agree that people in American countries outside of the U.S. ought to be called "Americans". Maybe they don't really want to associate themselves with us, though. I, personally would be horribly embarrassed, as per Callei's post, to call myself American in Europe. I would probably lie about it too.


Shade, if my kids ever win the fight about clothes with me in a rational way, and I catch you ogling them, I'll rip your eyes out. Along with every other guy in NOLA. Geez, I'm gonna be a busy woman... nevermind...


Squid... have to say it... I like Oscar Wilde. He cracks me up, misogynist as he is... I like a lot of what he said. and I do think some of it is clever..

Guess that's all...

 

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  posted on 6/9/2003 at 06:35 AM
Fuck you, you poisonous, skeletal little psycho-slut! Fuck you to hell! How dare you use those children as pawns in your little power struggle games! You self-righteous little cunt!

How dare you berate my boyfriend for not seeing the kids as much as you want him to! He watched them for you all the time you were working this summer, watched them until he had to go to work at the full-time job that you never had the guts to get, where he works himself almost literally to death to earn enough money to find a home where his seven-year-old son can have, not only his own room, but his own goddamned BED! To get those kids the home that YOU are too goddamned lazy to get off your stupid ass and find a full-time job for!

Now he doesn't see them as much, but only because the kids are at school when he is home! But of course you have to go all psychotic after only 3 days of school because all he sees of them is the 10 minutes a day when he picks them up after school for you! It's not his fault! You couldn't even wait for the first weekend to yell at him! And he even watched them both for you the day before school!

And FUCK YOU for DELIBERATELY making it harder for us to spend time with them! Thankyou SO MUCH for being so falsely careful of my energy level by taking away my days watching the kids! I don't care if it makes me tired, I love those kids! But you would rather risk your measly laundromat job by having them there after school than let me take care of your kids. I know you don't give a damn about whether I'm tired or not, it's all a fucking power play. Ironically, by depriving me of the kids, you are also depriving them of an extra half-hour with their father, while he waits for me to get out of work so I can take them! That's another hour a week! You're just jealous that the kids were having a good time with me, and that I could deal with them, after 8 hours of a frustrating job, and still not yell at them!

I hope you enjoyed seeing your 5-year-old daughter run up and give me a hug, and tell me how much she missed me and how sad she was that she's "not allowed to see [me] anymore, just Daddy." I hope you liked seeing the way she sat on my lap and clung to me like a lifeline.

And one more thing, you little... God, I can't even think of a word sick enough to describe you.. DON'T YOU DARE TEACH YOUR SON THAT I'M HIS WORST ENEMY!!! I know he got that from you! The poor kid is so confused! He doesn't know whether to believe his mother or his own experience! Yeah, I'm his worst enemy. I'm such an enemy, that I pull myself out of bed at 3:30 AM on Saturday mornings to go to work for overtime. Yeah, I'm such an enemy, that while I'm there, assembling bearings half-asleep, I'm daydreaming about how I'm going to decorate his room in the home I'm working to earn for him. Such an enemy! Yeah, and when I prop my exhausted eyelids up for another hour before going to bed, so I can study just a little bit more for my real estate liscense, so I can get a job that will make enough money to send him to a private school where he won't be so bored, that just shows how much of a GODDAMNED FUCKING ENEMY I am to him!

No, you sorry excuse for a mother, you, yes you, and that abusive boyfriend of yours, are your children's worst enemy. And I swear now, before everything that is, that I will take those children from you, and show them what love is, and stability, and maybe a little comfort. I will protect your children from you.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2003 at 07:21 PM
There's a girl who looks like Britney Spears in my classroom...even talks like her and is named Britney. She also talks a lot. Kind of a scary vibe with her, oh well.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2003 at 01:54 PM
*Takes a deep breath*

Fuck you you fuckity fuckers! Fuck you new roommate who doesn't shower everyday in ninety degree heat and walks downtown! Fuck you for not opening the window, or closing it because there is "no cold air coming in." Of course there isn't any cold air, it's fucking summer time. Get that through your fucking head! And take a fucking shower, you onion eating, garlic smacking idiot! And of course I'm going to have fucking homework in the first week! This isn't grade school, this isn't jr. high, this isn't fucking high school, it's fucking college! I'm taking fucking literature classes! I have to fucking read! A lot! And fuck you for your loud braying laugh, waking me and our other apartment mates! Fuck you and your glaring, and your shuffling feet, and all the noise you so rudely make in the mornings! I vow never to go to bed before midnight because of your donkey hollering ass! Fuck you for your stupid wanna be conversation lead-ins! I don't fucking care what your fucking mother does in the fucking traffic club over in fucking Montana! If I am fucking doing homework, or look otherwise fucking occupied. leave me the fuck alone! And for christsakes, take a fucking shower! What is that smell?!
Fuck you Star Wars related bullshit! Fuck you for taking precedence every fucking night when I need to have a conversation with a certain someone! Fuck you WEST-B exam! Fuck you for having the power to boot me out of my class if I don't pass all three sections! Fuck you female reproductive track and the havoc you play on my poor apartment mate! Fuck you for not being on time and leaving me to wonder if I am even more fucked than I already feel! Fuckfuckfuckfuckityfuckfuckfuck!

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 12:23 AM
Since the F word is presiding as dominant in the latest comments.....

Fuck the little shitbag I got into a "fuck you" screaming match in the parkinglot of work yesterday. Take a shower, get a job, stop hanging out at the mall, and don't get in my fucking way when I'm trying to leave that hell hole. Oh, and fuck your mom who didn't have enough sense to buy a fucking coathanger 16 years ago.

 

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