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Author: Subject: The Big Drain

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  posted on 12/5/2004 at 10:55 PM
I was reading in the news fax waiting at a bank yesterday, and the topic was, yes, GAS PRICES. Seems the national average is 1.80 for basic unleaded, yet on the west coast here we are seeing NATIONAL record highs, the cheapest I've seen is 2.09 (which just went up again this afternoon to 2.11), and they claim that the price has climbed an average of .10 over the last two weeks. BULLSHIT. It's gone up about .30 the last two weeks here, and about .50 in the last month. I got UNDER FIVE GALLONS FOR TEN FUCKING DOLLARS. What I want to know is what the fuck is going on.
I know we're at "war".
I know our prez is an "oil baron"
What I don't know is how the fuck these assholes sleep at night knowing they are bankrupting any and everyone that has to drive more than 10-15 min to work a day?
I'm looking at a personal increase from $75 a month in gas (averaging between 1.30-1.50 a gallon, still pretty fucking high) to almost $120 a month. This is BULLSHIT.
I know there are websites designed to direct you to the cheapest places, but I know the cheapest place and it's fucking outrageous.
Is this what we wanted to happen? Is this what they inteded from this "war"? Does the goddamned "war" have anything to do with this? What I HAVE noticed is that every goddamned time an "incident" happens in the middle east in the last few months, everything from an outbreak of rebel fighting, or humiliating pictures of iraqi pow's, the gas price LEAPS. PLUS these cocksuckers have the nerve to tell me that it's going to be WORSE DURING SUMMER! A statement was released from one of our largest middle eastern oil suppliers who said that the occupation in the neighboring country of Iraq would not affect the supply. Now they say they're cutting production. Nobody gives us a reason for why the price is up so high, they just say "get used to it, it's going to get worse."
I DEMAND ANSWERS.
Does anyone have any sort of inside scoop for me? Anyone who works in energy or has a friend/relative in the energy industry that could make some fucking sense of this shit? I live in washington for christ's sake, if I want to go ANYWHERE I have to drive at least 20 min.

I've also decided to send a long overdue letter to our president. His language, his groove, his style....

"Dear President Bush. You are a stupid head. I bet you eat your boogers. love, Laurie"

Not that it'll accomplish fucking squat but god it'll make me feel better. Plus, I might get a special visit from secret service checking out whether or not I am planning an attack on the other side of the country. COULDN"T IF I WANTED TO I COULDN"T AFFORD TO FUCKING DRIVE THERE ASSHOLES!

 

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  posted on 20/5/2004 at 08:40 PM
No, I think he's learned the art of posession, and has been inhabiting our heads....excedrine and beer seem to do the trick tho.

Don't make me get all spiritual on you again, sea-spawn.

 

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  posted on 20/5/2004 at 12:38 PM
Did Monolycus find all yor passwords and log-in under yor names to have a conversation with himself?

 

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  posted on 20/5/2004 at 11:44 AM
My engagement ring is diamonds, but honestly, if it'd been a cereal box or quarter machine ring, I'd have been just as happy. It's not huge, but it's beautiful, and he didn't bankrupt himself buying it, because he knew I wouldn't have liked that at all. It doesn't blind me, it doesn't get in the way, and I love it. I got our wedding bands at Fred Meyer with gift cards I got for my shower (score), but would have been just as happy with tattooed bands, or nothing at all. Michael is just so darling and traditional he wanted the "real thing", but knows that money and spoiling is not my main focus in life.

So now for major money/technology conspiracies we've got:
De Beers diamond cartel holding back the potential power of computers with a stranglehold on the diamond industry, focusing on lavish pompus jewelery for lavish pompus women instead of bettering technology.

The Oil Industry for continuously feeding our dependence on "black gold" and buying out prototypes of electric cars to prevent them from coming to market or for further advancement of their technology (like replaceable fucking BATTERIES), AND for systematically price gouging their addicted consumers and strangling oil rich countries to keep them under our thumb.

The establishment (collective, general, anonymous) for allowing this crap to go on!

 

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  posted on 19/5/2004 at 02:27 AM
Hey, my engagement ring is a tattoo, recieved on the Friday the 13th before Valentines Day (I'm also getting married on a Friday the 13th).

And my wedding ring is a simple, silver Celtic band from a little shop we know. The two rings cost a whopping 30 bucks all told (the tattoos were considerably more expensive, but still not as expensive as a diamond).

I'm proud that my fiance cared enough about me to get me an engagement ring that reflects my tastes, not just spend a lot of money on what everyone else has.

No diamond cartel support from me!

 

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  posted on 19/5/2004 at 12:26 AM
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And if you think DeBeers is bad for holding back the computer industry, just look into all the other evil things they do... They're a diamond cartel and they will bribe and kill to keep it that way. Holding back processing power is just scratching the surface...


Yep, that is why I did not want a diamond engagement ring. It was fun explaining all that to my yuppie, trophy wife sister-in-law when she asked why I had a purple one (amethyst) instead. Even when I explained that it was hand made by a local artist (as were our wedding bands) she didn't seem impressed. I guess we should have gone $35,000 in debt and supported the diamond cartel so I could show off how valuable I am to my husband. (insert eye rolling)

I swear, some people will never get it no matter how hard you try.

 

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  posted on 18/5/2004 at 08:21 PM
Hell yeah.. Old cars kick ass.

Batteries not replaceable? Hell they ain't! I'd just rip into there anyway, hell with what the owner's manual says! If it means I gotta put the new batteries in the back seat because they don't fit, fine! I'll run a cable! Fuck planned obsolesence!

And if you think DeBeers is bad for holding back the computer industry, just look into all the other evil things they do... They're a diamond cartel and they will bribe and kill to keep it that way. Holding back processing power is just scratching the surface...

 

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  posted on 18/5/2004 at 12:55 AM
Nah, it's straight up gas engine. Makes me wish I had my old supa dupa hillbilly truck that got 14 mpg on the freeway that I had in highschool *sigh* Sup that baby up with greasil and it'd be a bad mothafucker...

Comedian: GOOD TO KNOW. I didn't know that the batteries were not replaceable. I'll get one when they are then. It's wierd that it'd be like that with a honda...as much as I want to support homeland made goods, 100K miles is usually when you scrap a ford. I still can't believe that my Pontiac has held on past 150K...my dad's blown away too
I think It's cuz I've replaced just about everything IN that goddamned engine since it hit 40K, so every few years it's like a brand new car.

 

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  posted on 17/5/2004 at 02:33 PM
Oh, and if you want to talk about vast humanity-buggering conspiracies by crazed companies bent on suppressing technology, complain to the computer companeis that still push for silicone processors.

FREE SYNTHETIC DIAMONDS! CRUSH DEBEERS! The fatuous luxury gems women desire have been holding back the avdancement of technology and diamond computer processing for two years now.

 

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  posted on 17/5/2004 at 02:28 PM
European Diesel Geo's get around 90 miles to the gallon. The sports version of this Geo, which can hit about 140 on the flats, gets about 70/gallon.

In the Deutschland, they have worked out a 5,000 dollar modification to vehicles that allows you to run on processed biological waste. The gov over in Amsterdam also gives you a tax rebate equal to about 6,000 dollars if you get the mod. The tough part is getting the bio-gas.

Hybrid electric cars(the Honda is the one I'm thinking of) get about 50/gallon highway and 47/gallon city. The only problem is, when the battery finally goes(usually around 100k miles) you have to junk the whole car. Batteries in hybrid electrics are irreplacable as of yet.

I have a '91 Toyota 4Runner. Call me an SUV gas hog, whatever, but when you live in a place that's getting flurries of snow in may, you'll be glad you have on-the-fly 4wd/Low4WD. The unfortunate part is that I also get around 17/gallon highway, and have to buy gas in a small town at around 2.50 Unleaded.

 

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  posted on 17/5/2004 at 11:45 AM
Bettie: Does your Pontiac have a diesel engine? If it doesn't, then you'll need to get one to run on grease. Gasoline engines (correct me if I'm wrong) won't run on it.

Although horses would be good (they could do your math homework for you, too), I'm still sticking with my pogo stick dream.

 

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  posted on 17/5/2004 at 12:05 AM
Give me a car that runs on hippies any day.

In any case, I've long ago named my car Betty, and she doesn't use gas, she uses blood and children...great mileage too, I can get about one to one fifty miles out of a three year old.

I think we need to go back to Horses...I mean, shit, their fuel grew on the damned ground...they're cooler and they can wear hats!

 

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  posted on 15/5/2004 at 06:21 PM
*lol* true nuff. Gimmie my hemp pants and patchoulli.

 

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  posted on 15/5/2004 at 03:39 PM
One of the people at my dad's work knows a guy who has a greasil engine, and my dad said he did it not because it is economical, but because he is a hippy. *giggle*

 

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  posted on 14/5/2004 at 08:18 PM
I'm so gonna look into that. I'll have the only 98 pontiac grande am with 160K miles on it that smells like onion rings. WORD.

Oh, and I forgot to mention it earlier, but I DO know why hybrid cars have remained rather "unpopular" over the years, and why they're rather ignored.
The hybrid car has been around for about 30 years or so, or at least prototypes. Why have they only surfaced popularly within the last 5-10 years? Because from the 70's on, every hybrid prototype was bought by the oil companies so that they could keep it under wraps and not have it manufactured. True nuff. It's about as low down scumbag as the tobacco industry used to be.

 

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  posted on 14/5/2004 at 02:56 PM
quote:
I can't help but wonder if this article is related to the topic at hand:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757& e=2&u=/nm/20040514/od_nm/crime_grease_dc

Why else would you gank vats of restaurant grease? Skin treatment? Bargain lube? To wrestle in?
-Kira

When I read that article I couldn't help but think of Homer Simpson. Yes, Anonymous the SUV is a middle finger in the face of the enviroment. Yes, Bettie the grease is compatible with most engines. Engines that are not usally need a minor adjustment that takes less than 10 minutes (if I remember correctly). It states it on the site somewhere.

 

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  posted on 14/5/2004 at 01:15 PM
I have a few factiods that I've heard. The United States has no new oil refineries since the 1960's, thus all oil drilled here must be sent to the middle east to be refined. Most American drilled oil is sent to Japan.
These people don't want to change the problems with gas prices. As far as they are concerned we should be paying as much as Europe, especially with our big 'fashion accessory' SUVs.

 





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  posted on 14/5/2004 at 01:13 PM
I have a few factiods that I've heard. The United States has no new oil refineries since the 1960's, thus all oil drilled here must be sent to the middle east to be refined. Most American drilled oil is sent to Japan.
These people don't want to change the problems with gas prices. As far as they are concerned we should be paying as much as Europe, especially with our big 'fashion accessory' SUVs.

 

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  posted on 14/5/2004 at 11:22 AM
I can't help but wonder if this article is related to the topic at hand:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757& e=2&u=/nm/20040514/od_nm/crime_grease_dc

Why else would you gank vats of restaurant grease? Skin treatment? Bargain lube? To wrestle in?

 

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  posted on 14/5/2004 at 08:53 AM
Ironboots, it's ONE of the problems, not the whole, and I DO agree that this country needs to decrease it's dependency on the product itself. I don't disagree there at all.
I've heard of greasil's, my sister has seen them in california and half the gas stations have the fryer oil available and it's DIRT CHEAP, and she says that she drove behind one that smelled like donuts
CAN you convert a regular car engine to run on grease? Please tell me yes, that would be worth the investment.
It would take me about 2 hours by bus the way they run around here, and the stops are something like every 5 hours. I live in the middle of nowhere, and in case you haven't heard, Washington's public transportation is RETARDED. It's about 25-30 miles one way to work, which takes me 25 min (if I'm speeding), and the store is close enough to drive to and not make a dent in my tank but too far to walk and lug back groceries (and I just get the small stuff there, I go to the warehouse grocery behind the mall for most of my stuff to get it in bulk). Plus I live on the main highway, and it's two lanes but scary as fuck, and the drivers on it are inconsiderate and reckless and there are WAY too many accidents on it.
I have to go drive to work now, but I've got more later.

 

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