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Author: Subject: Immigration Regulation

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  posted on 6/6/2003 at 09:54 AM
http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138456& tid=apeconomy&sid=37138456&mid=25191

http://www.numbersusa.com/index

Legitimate issue or belligerent ignorance with a surge of xenophobia and racism?

 

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  posted on 2/4/2004 at 06:52 AM
sadly, immigration is the only hope of social securty; americans dont breed enough to support the costs of the elderly so the baby boomers actually NEED the immigrants. funny huh? and immigration as an aid to the economy is just starting, not ending. as workers get more mobile, they act on that mobility, as we can see if we look at the migration from farm to city, from city to factory towns, and from factory towns to info centers.

I dont see how the use of petrochemicals relates to immigration. I just cant wrap my head around thier inter-relation. do you mean that immigration is bad because they use petrochemicals to get to other countries? or because immigrants are bigger consumers of petrochemicals than natives?

 

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  posted on 1/4/2004 at 11:21 PM
When I see 'politically incorrect' all I can think of is CENSORRED.

The days when immigration aids the economy is rapidly closing to an end. Oil consumption needs to decrease, industries will need to rely more and more on renewable energy sources and immigration doesn't help this. As for racism and xenophobia, if different races keep on enterring a country enmass peolpe get suspicious. Without clear answers and censorship you get racists and xenophobes, not just the crackpots.

By the way I', not just about to jump up and start persecuting gypsies or whatever, so don;t brand me as anything.

just have a think about how extremeists go around 'rabble rousing' this sort of thing has been gloing on for centuries. Frankly they shuold stop being paranoid lunatics and actually provide facts and stuff.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2003 at 07:52 PM
Heh. What really made me raise my eyebrow is that some racists consider themselves "true Americans." If they're going to take it to that extent, the only "true Americans" by heritage would be the American Indians (or whatever first came here)...then we took their land. *waits for someone to have her shot*

Something with people just wanting a reason to outright hate. Ah well. *shrug*

 

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  posted on 13/6/2003 at 07:35 PM
This red neck is funny. The ARA will solve his problem,eather one. Because if the anti-racist don't get him, he will end up shotting himself in a hunting acident. His line was one of these "aliens". I myself am only 1/16 native american. He probilly can't even clam that. The thing that is depressing about this is that natural slection has not kick-in on this guy. Sorry about being so hateful, but I work with just about every nationality. I see racist every day (not just from americans) and it is one of my pet peves. Oh well I wish him a safe trip to wal-mart. LOL

 

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  posted on 11/6/2003 at 03:35 PM
They have as much right to be here as you do, Mr. Xenophobe.

And as for the messageboards, there's a lot of discussion on both sides, so hopefully the brighter side will win. (As far as shallow pseudo-flame fests can win...)

 

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  posted on 10/6/2003 at 06:12 AM
No.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2003 at 06:11 AM
No.

 

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  posted on 7/6/2003 at 01:22 AM
Indeed.

My grandma cannot get anymore of her relatives from Vietnam here because of this stuff. Here's a government conspiracy mentioned by a friend of mine in Texas:

The President regulating immigration...but a little less for the Mexicans so that he can get more voters in the next election (since they are a great population of the United States). In fact, a doctor in the town said outright to his severely ill father that he would not get fair medical treatment for, "You are not Hispanic." However, that's a government conspiracy and there's a lot of those.

And yes...tis' true that there's as many homicidal Americans as there are immigrants, if not more. There was a comparison between USA and Russia a while back, comparing their methods of punishment and the world's greatest criminal rates. Russia is guilty until proven innocent and well, it turned out that over 90% of the greatest criminals were American origin. So I do not totally see crime being the big deal here.

And yes, immigration is a great part of out history...not to mention preaching peace yet raping the American Indian lands...like they say, "We invite you to dinner and you take our lands." *snicker*

Hrmm..."Taking jobs"? That reminds me of one of the personal excuses that Hitler used to wreck vengeance on the Jews (they supposedly took his family's jobs).


 

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  posted on 6/6/2003 at 11:56 PM
Zactly!
I mean *I* could say I'm "native" american because I was BORN here, but somewhere down the line, the first members of my family were NOT. THEY were immigrants. This guy needs a serious comeuppins in the form of a large steel toed boot and his rectum.
I'm tempted to post on the original thread on the link provided, but I'm afraid that if I start, i shall not stop.
He can wallow and die of heart disease. Fuck him. Someone has to I guess.

 

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  posted on 6/6/2003 at 09:29 PM
Preach it Bettie preach it!! What gets me is these idiots fail to realize immigration is the backbone of this country. Heck our country was founded by immigrants, by the children of immigrants, and so on. It all reminds me of a political comic strip I saw a log time ago, and it went something like this: A welthy well dressed fairly old white man in confronting two hispanic immigarnts saying something like "no more immigrants" while a native american stands behind him replying "I'll pack your bags."

 

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  posted on 6/6/2003 at 11:30 AM
that guy is a dipshit. They bring diseases like CANCER?! You cant transmit cancer from person to person! And how AIDS got into this country is questionable, and when it did at that, and we're not the ONLY country afflicted with it, its a global epidemic. Whether or not the healthcare is free, it's illegal to turn away a person in need of medical care, regardless of their legal status. Most serial killers in the US are not immigrants, but our own fair countrymen, and did this dipwack forget timothy mcveigh, ted kazinski, and other native born american terrorists? How about the most notorious serial killers, all middle aged caucasian american males? (for the most part anyway). The sick thing is, this guy doesn't realise that murder may be a political career in other countries, but here it's a goddamned HOBBY. American citizens kill each other as readily as those warring factions in so called "third world" narions, we just do it on the downlow so nobody interferres with their weekend "hobby" involving little kids or their neighbor.
As for 'them' taking our jobs, there is a hardworking elderly korean couple a few stores down from mine that opened and run an sandwich shop, they work every day, all day, and employ AMERICANS. i would like to see how many japanese or other country made vcrs, dvds, cd players, coffee makers, toasters. tv's and cars this asswipe owns.
Taking away jobs my ass, what a hypocrite. And if he's forgotten, this country was FORMED by everyone else's 'trash'. Political exiles, criminals, religious exiles, and whatever else he considers 'trash'. Plus, think of how the natives felt when the "immigration" doors were flung wide on their land when it was discovered.
Asshole.

 

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  posted on 6/6/2003 at 10:16 AM
I'm going to say xenophobia and racism on both sites. The yahoo article screamed racism, while numberusa.com had a chart with outrageous numbers, and those little animation eye-candy tried to destract the reader from the underline xenophobia.

 

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myself: "Didn't you see my rainbow pin?"

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  posted on 6/6/2003 at 10:05 AM
Xenophobia most definitley! Damn racists! Thank God for groups such as the ARA(Anti Racist Action, not the American Rifle Association people).

 

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