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Shade
Fanatic   Posts: 289 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 09:21 AM |
Pets?
CHUM ____________________
It is only through the lack of sex that humanity derives the need for an
all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of religion.
-Me
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Domkitten
Fanatic  Posts: 470 Registered: 23/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 09:48 AM |
Last time I checked there were only three pets and I think we all know who
they are. So I say have at it if your having at it Feral, besides even pets
need to learn.
And Schiz, what irritates me about Zero is I know that there is a brain in
that head, but I never see it being used. It's so close to the surface, but
instead he comes off as more of a noisy idiot most of the time, without
ever really getting anywhere else. It's jsut frustrating.
As for gothicmormon, it hasn't ever written and artticle, and though it may
have a valid point eventually, for the most part he or she has almost
always managed to strike out, you'll see that if you read through most of
it's posts on articles.
I wouldn't however worry about this becoming a snitty bitchfest about
everyone. So far it providing constructive advice to the clueless, but "you
can't save the clueless".
And Callei, all I can say is that I'm so so very happy that worthless liar
very rarely ever posts anything that I have to read outside a slushpile. ____________________
It's like kegel exercises for your throat.~Monolycus
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 10:12 AM |
Kitty Goes Mrow...
I have seen some fantastic thought... your last comment here was concise
and intelligent...
http://www.shmeng.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file
=article&thold=-1&mode=flat&order=0&sid=676#8688
but most of your postings are a case of hearing your voicebox rattle... mee
too, and I concur... commentary on the photos...
http://www.shmeng.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file
=article&thold=-1&mode=flat&order=0&sid=665#8503
But I don't believe I have ever really seen an article frrom you... or more
than that... and the fluffy bunny, I am so cute you must love me bullshit
really gets in the way... I AM CERTAIN that you have potential to be much
more - so much more than a yes, me too-er...
____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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Shade
Fanatic Posts: 289 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 12:32 PM |
Abbadon
Shut the fuck up, if you can't be intelligible more than half the time, go
somewhere else. It's not deep when you spout shit, it's just nasty and
someone usually has to clean up after you. Which leads me to my next
target.
Anya
Shut the fuck up. If this site needed a token politico we have a dozen who
understand the politics they are discussing. If the site needed a token
person who does not understand white culture, we have those in spades, and
they do not use their lack of understanding to demand anything. And mostly,
until you can learn that to stand for or discuss anything, you need to
choose a stance, think it through, and then present it to the community as
a platform, don't open your mouth. If I hear you use your teachers, your
local newspaper, some random stranger, your text book, or anything other
than someone else using your account as an excuse for why you just
attempted to spew the most uninformed opinions at us, I will be forced to
go Shakespearean on your ass.
Research is your friend child, learn it, love it, use it and then try
again.
Callei
You are the Mistress of (blood)Orgies, you are as much to blame for this
shit coming down as anyone else. When did your flamethrower go out? I
remember way back when, during my lurking days, i used to log in to watch
you tear someone a new one. You were the grand master of the wadded panties
and any newbie who tried to subvert the site or in anyway hurt the vibe was
subject to your ire. Now it takes a forum like this to challenge our skills
and pull others out of the wood work to do your dirty work. If you are
still she who must be feared on this site, go ahead and come out
swinging.
Devin
Even though it is other people who have decided that this thread is all
about trolls, and not just people who need a swift kick, I'll take a moment
to point out that the instigation of this thread without any form of
moderation is what can only be thought of SysOp Trolling, you start
something, let everyone hang themselves and then come back in, choose the
interpretation that you like the best and smack everyone who didn't read
your mind? (Actually, I like it. I just had to throw you in and couldn't
think of anything real for which to smack you, other than eating callei's
last cookie.)
Domkitten
You, for the longest time have been the biggest pain in the ass I have ever
seen. Partially because you are almost always three inches from getting it
right. You can spin the best thoughts for an entire article and only sow
hatred with two sentences in the whole thing. This wouldn't bug me so much
if you didn't walk into the site and suddenly start speaking as though you
spoke for everyone. You are so two faced you can't stop talking even when
you yourself have said it would be a good idea with one side of your mouth.
I know you have a brain, you must have to be allowed to teach English in a
foreign country, the thing I have to ask myself is this, if you are capable
of sowing this much hatred in a small group who can think (for the most
part) for itself, what are you doing to the poor impressionable Koreans who
come to you to learn a foreign language?
Once more for the hard of thinking, Domkitten, your biggest problem is that
you spread hate while acting as though you speak for all of us. You do not,
you never have, none of us do. And if you would stop talking just long
enough to draw a breath and receive just a smidgen of the oxygen your brain
is obviously crying out for, you might hear others saying this through the
regular avenues.
GothicMorman
Just go on missionary and get out of our hair. You are nearly as bad as
DomKitten when it comes to spreading hate. If I hear you pull out that
hoary old chestnut "gays and lesbians are deviant monsters" one more time I
will personally sick Feral on you. Feral was one of the most homo phobic
people I had ever known when I first met him and I still watched with glee
when he beat the verbal shit out of a pair of gay bashers. Just because
your best friends dyke sister wouldn't blow you in the back seat of her
parents mini van doesn't mean you need to spread the hate. And if you are
doing it because your rabbi or priest or whatever told you to, let me give
you a small bit of advice. Light the fuse before you shove the stick of
dynamite up your ass, it will make me smile for at least another ten
seconds.
IamSquid
Why precisely do you find it so necessary to spell as though you were a
whiny script kiddie? Isn't it enough that you act like one? Develop a
personality that goes beyond Comedian on a bad day without his gift for
invective and I will take you seriously. You want to know if you are a pet
or something else that has kept you from getting banned for life? I will
bet that you have survived by being slightly less annoying than the current
troll of the moment for so long that we have had a chance to see that you
can on occasion smack a nugget of interest onto the counter.
Your spelling issues just serve to highlight the fact that ninety percent
of the time, you have to rely on something manufactured to attract
attention. Just because ten percent of the time you have something
worthwhile to say, do not speak all the time. Wait until you have something
to say, say it, and then wait until the next time, don't fill the dead
space with crap, let someone else do that. They may be able to say it with
humor.
Meranda_Jade
I almost didn't include you in this because I didn't feel like hearing your
whining response, but fuck it. You are supposedly the mistress of
discipline, if you can't say anything other than "Can't we just get along?"
step down and stop demanding your right as the mistress. The last time
something like this forum was begun, you actually had the gall to come in
and preach moderation. This time it's scorched earth time, and if you even
try to say fluffy things, well, you know what happens when you hold a
dandelion too close to an open flame?
MystryssRavynDarque
You have so many people trying to help you, just fucking listen to them!
Acting cute or blonde will only get you so far, but develop a real
personality. Not a shoe box full that you pull out when the occasion
arises. Part of the reason why this sucks so much is that I remember
pulling similar bullshit when I was 16, I thought it was cool that i could
chameleon into any group and change who I was to fit with whoever I was
talking to, back in reality land though, I found out that all that meant
was that I was pissing off all the people with brains because they were
putting in a lot of work to pull me out of my shell and I just kept putting
on a new shell. I know it's a scary world out here, but honestly, it starts
to stink in that shell if you stay in for too long.
Monolycus
Where to start? You hide the fact that you don't really know what you are
talking about by saying it in seventeen different ways. Length doesn't make
an article smart or intelligent, it just makes it long. You have to
speak/write eloquently to support an article of that length, and while I
have waded through a number of your travesties, I have yet to see anything
so important that it could not have been stated just as poorly in a few
sentences.
You back up someone else's opinion with a third party's quotes and expect
this to add strength to your argument which has been lost ages ago in the
murk of your lack of logic.
If that wasn't enough, (its not even the worst offense) everything returns
to it's source, and yours has so obviously been a personal problem for so
long that if you ever got the attention you crave you would probably miss
it. If you just need to cry out for attention, just take notes and lessons
for the bucket o' 14.8s we have on the site, they have it down to a bloody
science. You on the other hand have somehow managed to age without
improving and still never learned how to just sit up and say "Me!" If you
need praise, give us something to praise, if you need something to be
pitied over, well then yes, this is actually a personal attack.
Check it out dude, all your conspiracy theories are real! Devin started
this forum so that the pantheon could get together and make a few comments
until the time was ripe for someone to come up from their elite little
protected group of friends and tear you a new ass hole. Yep, it's all been
done for you and don't you forget it. We have your number now bucko me lad
and we are gunning for blood. So go fuck yourself.
Schizo
You are just as guilty as Meranda, Devin pretty clearly said the time for
diplomacy was not now, and within 26 hours you are in there preaching
diplomacy. And when you get right down to it, you have gone from being very
intelligent and holding to a belief structure you believed in to following
and preaching a party line. There was a time when your religious belief was
something we all believed in, be nice to those that deserve it, follow your
own convictions, avoid those who spread nothing but drama, things like
that. Now you have begun to speak the party line with one hand while asking
for black magic with the other. The Schiz that used to exist was the type
of person who would never have let things get to the point where she needed
the local witches help, the Xian pod person who has taken over, apparently
is.
Shade (Guest written by Callei)
Mr. I-cant-debate-to-save-my-life is busy bashing people for actually
having opinions, trying to reason things out, and letting thier big heads
do the thinking? Its not like you actually have a degree in English, you
just write porn. Emotional harangues are all you can do since you, like
others you have cited here, have no clue about history, politics, or the
world outside your computer screen. Leave them alone you compulsive lurker.
Squire-Of-Gothos
You know what? You came on like just another newbie, kind of nervous a
little socially retarded, normal for a newbie, then you started to look
like you had promise, you spent a huge amount of time asking intelligent
questions, making intelligent remarks, I even think you helped a few
people, and then you went spare and started insulting the site, the members
and all the work we have ever put into polishing you. I don't know if you
started smoking crack, became a violent drunk, or stopped doing some drug
that was really helping, all I know is that you went from really quickly
developing cool person to social leper faster than Squid or DomKitten can
usually piss me off, and that's fast.
WorthlessLiar
You know what, I can barely remember why you suck compared to these people,
so just shut up, go away, if you want to say anything, make a new
personality and try it over again. If you had anything to say, maybe you
should take it and your left testicle away until they have both grown big
enough to find with the naked eye.
There are more of you, I'm not even sure who all of you are anymore, most
of the 'angel of' crowd, gdlke, and many many more, shut the fuck up. If
you can't think of anything worthwhile to say, don't run screaming through
the galleries posting 'ooh neat' or 'mmKay' on every picture, yeah MRD,
that means you too. If you little fucktards (really Feral, it's such a good
term) can't say something, just fucking lurk. If you can't lurk quietly,
and if you can't keep your "What about me?" mouths shut, then go somewhere
else.
Oh and Abbadon, just in case you didn't get it the last dozen times I said
it, Fuck off. ____________________
It is only through the lack of sex that humanity derives the need for an
all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness
with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of
religion.
/>
-Me
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Devin
Administrator  Posts: 317 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Online
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 01:19 PM |
Yep - just as I was feeling guilty about my SysOp trolling, shade calls me
on it. I was curious if everyone had the same opinions I did about certain
people and wanted to see what everyone would say.
The most unexpected part of this so far for me is that there is one person
conspicuously missing.
Lady Cynget
I don't even know what to say about her - it all seems so obvious, i'm
surprised nobody has brought her up yet. Maybe it's for the same reasons
I'm having a hard time thinking of specific reasons she bugs me. Aside
from mentioning that she posts the same drivel over and over (karma free
zone), what do you say about the queen of noisy idiots?
____________________
So Sayeth Me
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 01:27 PM |
| I second Shade when it comes to Anya. Is there no opinion you can present
us with that is well enough thought through to stick to? I have heard
little more than echos from you, and yet you act like you think you are
right in there, if not in the inner circle, at least very close. ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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Devin
Administrator Posts: 317 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Online
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 01:35 PM |
| I'm glad to see anya getting some attention, but I don't agree that those
are the most annoying things about her. Yes she likes to talk retorical
politics, but what's more bothersome is that she likes to practice them.
Every time someone tries to point any these things out, someone always says
"but she's so niiiiiiice". Almost everyone who is vacant appears nice.
This defense of her is the result of her successfully playing up to those
who she percieves as having some political power. Obviously she's not that
bad at it if it works sometimes - but it's really annoying when she tries
to gain political points with me. ____________________
So Sayeth Me
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 01:40 PM |
shade: I only have one complaint about what you posted... I was naive...
and unsure, but I have never been homophobic... little known fact... I
spent part of my high school career experimenting to see if I was bi... it
was the drag queens in new orleans and the fact that PEOPLE, not one class
of them but all of them, make me uncomfortable... *grins* I wish you had
told me that you thought that...I would have loved to have told you the
story at khaldis...
*hangs his head in shame* I did not bring up cygnet because I showed her
the site... I... was hoping that when karma kicked her ass she'd see the
hint... but I guess that I, too, am guilty of being nice...
Cygnet: no offense... but I have told you... to your face (proverbially -
on a messenger) to make your choices. We ALL have problems... but if you
are that unnhappy fix it... quit bitching about it and do something about
it.... but if you choose to NOT handle the problem... then YOU MADE THE
FUCKING CHOICE... LIVE WITH IT... I don't wanna hear about it... Devin
doesna wanna hear about it... and no one else does either... And you knwo
what is sad about this... I AM YOUR FRIEND... but if you won't help you...
then no one else will... I told you... in no uncertain terms that this site
was NOT the placee for the snivelling... and you did not listen... why?
because no one else would tell you the same? well... FUCKING LISTEN NOW...
buck the fuck up, or shut the fuck up... I don't care which... but you have
made me ashamed for showing you the site... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 01:51 PM |
Anya... you are young... which is not a fault... you are also
idedealistic... but you have little in the way of experience... I
uundeerstand your desire to understand the world and politics... but your
views are black and white... and there is no black, nor white... it is all
grey... on the flip side... since you are galvanized against one thing or
another... you are willing to settle to avoid that one thing... either be
idedalistic, or be a sellout... but you cannot be both...
I am political in nature... I admit it... but there are other things I want
to discuss at times... and if you want to discuss politics... get rid of
party affiliations... those are just artificial forms of us and them... we
have enough of that... look at the issues...
no offense... don't talk to me about right and left wing, republican or
democrat, liberal or conservative... DISCUSS with me... don't throw out
terms... find the issues... do the reseaarch... THEN and only then... open
a disussion with the intent of evolving your opinions... and don't rely on
the opinions of others... speak to me of how you feel on the issues... I
believe that would make a great many people here happy...
OH... and *hands her a pallette of 48 shades of grey* use these instead...
remember... humans RARELY have a black and white... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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angel_of_death
Member   Posts: 119 Registered: 4/4/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 04:27 PM |
quote:
The only reason I even
remembered this is because I happened to look at the "Who's online" sidebar
and saw the name of the source of my annoyance listed there. In the "Women
are evil, men are dumb animals" thread, I was quite put off by Angel of
Death's "Look at me! I, and by extension every woman on the planet, and by
extension every man on the planet, am an evil psychobitch. Neat! Wow, it's
fun being evil. Everyone's evil, hurray!" attitude. Sorry, but I never
really got the appeal of being evil. Being a gamer, I'm more accustomed to
smiting it with some sort of sword or holy spell.
Alugarde: my deepest apologies, I have learned not to talk much on shmeng
because I will always piss someone off.
but I will agree with u on one thing, I went back and looked at that
thread, and realized that some (not all, some) of the things I said where
not very wise.
ill shut up now. ____________________
I know whats it like to want to die, how it hurts to smile, how you try to
fit in but you can't, how you hurt yourself on the outside, to try to kill
the pain in the inside.
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IamSquid
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 04:35 PM |
Abbadon
Plain and simple yoo are a waste of all our space and time. I've come to
the point where I see yor name I immediatly skip what yoo've said.
Anya
I've already mentioned my quarrel with yoo.
Callei
Oh man, let's see. Sometimes I can genuinely get along wih yoo but most of
the time I feel yor being two-faced and can tell yoo genuinely don't like
mee. If this is the case I'd appreciate it if yoo were up fornt about
it.
Devin
Tough one. Sometimes it seems as though this website is more of yor
personal dating service than anything else but that's about the best I can
come up for criticism.
Domkitten
I don't really know yoo very well. But it seems like yoo lack confidence
when yoo shouldhave confidence and have confidence when yoo really
shouldn't. I don't recall how I got this impression so don't ask mee for
examples. I'll try to remember if pressed to do so.
GothicMorman
I honestly have no idea who yoo are. I've seen the name but I don't recall
anything at all about yoo. Perhaps yoo should work on making yorself
known.
IamSquid
Well let's face it, I am a pseudo-intellectual cartoon character. I find
this entertaining, others quite obviously do not.
Meranda_Jade
Really I don't know alot about yoo and what I do know about I respect the
hell out of so I'll have to think about any criticism I have for yoo and
come back to yoo later.
MystryssRavynDarque
Yor young, but yoo'll learn.
Monolycus
Mono, I respect yoo quite a bit but yoo are yor own worst critic, and seem
to lack faith in yor friendships and always feel as though yoo've done
something wrong. I'm not going to tell yoo to stop questioning yorself but
for fuck's sake we're all friends here, have a bit more faith in us.
Schizo
Okay, this one's difficult. I may have to throw yoo in the same pile as
Meranda Jade.
Shade
Damnit, another tough one. Get past the spelling, I'm not going to stop,
Mr.I'm-so-great-because-I'm-screwing-the-admin. That's about the best I
could do.
Squire-Of-Gothos
Yoo know damn well what I have to say about yoo.
WorthlessLiar
I don't remember who yoo are, only that I don't like yoo so either become
less memorable or more likeable. ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 05:43 PM |
You know Devin, I have been longing for months to tell Anya to shut up, and
I didn't. Mainly because I thought maybe she was someone's pet, and damn
it, she seemed so goddamned fragile I was afraid to really hurt her, and
she isn't malicious or anything, just super-clingy. Yes, you are right.
That is the most disturbing thing about her. I know she latched on to me
because of the whole ex-Christian thing, but every conversation I had with
her just seemed to show that I had nothing in common with her, but
apparently she thought differently.
It's almost as if she wants to be controversial, and everyone's friend at
the same time. And you can't do that and be genuine at all. It makes me
feel like some syrupy, sticky something all over me that I can't get off. ____________________
"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"
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Domkitten
Fanatic Posts: 470 Registered: 23/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 07:50 PM |
I have to conquer here about Anya and Lady C. They can both be annoying as
all get out, and honestly, Anya, just because I've logged onto a messenger
does not mean I automatically want to talk to you or say hi, I don't want
to argue politics with you, and I don't want to hear about your poetry.
And while we are at it:
Litho, just because you own a camera and a computer it doesn't make you
Ansel Adams and it certainly doesn't give you the right to go around
telling everyone else how un-art their work is just because you are getting
an art degree.
SOG, what happened, you started off so promising and then just became a
foreshadowing of Smooth.
Shade, it's better to be able to be hateful with a few sentences then to
need two fucking pages to do it. Be concise.
Callei, I actually have no beef with you at all, which i find odd. There
was a time when I thought you were pretensions stuck up bitch on the wall
who haunted this place and treated everyone like an outsider just because
you could, then I realized that was true, accepted and moved on. Go figure.
Schizo, the only problem I've ever had with you is your habit of
occasionally sticking up for the clueless, only because I feel like you
have enough annoying clueless people in your life already, and there is no
reason for you to be taking on extra cases you don't need.
MJ, I wish you'd talk more dammit. And administer some proper spankings.
Either that or fuck all, we tie you up, and have our sordid way with you.
Mono, I truly dislike the fact that I can never really get into any of your
conversations without devoting and entire day, not to mention a thorough
combing through resource libraries to respond to you.
Devin, you need to share. Specifically details. You also need to pay more
attention to your hardware so we don't have this incredible lag time to
think about all the things on Shmeng that annoy us. And why are you so damn
cuddly. (I'm sorry, I really tried, but I can't think of a single fault you
have honestly, especially since you let us come here and bite at each other
for no good reason).
Rouge, arguing with you is generally futile because you tend to make
everything personal, and then get pissed whenever anyone takes offense.
Your the first person to take offense in almost any case, yet have a
horrible double standard when it comes to anybody else. I've just got one
word. BAM!
MRD, don't give up and pussyfoot about so easily. You do have a backbone so
use it.
Bettie. To the fucking liquor store with you more often. There is no excuse
for sobriety.
Feral, your tall, fearful and imposing, your a more talented artist then I
am, and you have a seen some damn fine looking women naked. Man that just
rubs me the wrong way. Why the fuck should you have all the fun.
Squid, less time looking at gay porn, more time writing about nuns.
Dolo, why the fuck do you keep disappearing. Just because you've suddenly
gotten a life it makes it okay for you not to come around.
Merry Widow, pregnancy is no excuse.
Rayce, so far I've seen some really interesting things from you. You come
really close to something though, and then it just seems off the mark.
Whining is beneath you.
Andree, I think you believe to much in your own sarcasm.
Domkitten, most of the time your full of shit, and don't know what the fuck
your talking about. You have no right to do or say anything you do or say,
but you do it anyway. You manage to be the biggest fucktard just by lack of
convictions.
Abbandon, GothicM, Worthless, BelongsTo, and all the people (excluding MRD)
with dark, angel, rose, wolf, raven, night, shadow, etc in their name.
Who the fuck cares about you anyway, your not worth addressing, so there,
fuck it.
____________________
It's like kegel exercises for your throat.~Monolycus
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Kira
Member  Posts: 149 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 10:14 PM |
C'mon people now...
Devin, I am actually surprised at your starting this thread. I know several
people highly involved with the site have been annoyed for some time now.
You can put me in the over-sympathizers camp if you want, but I just can't
handle bashing. Even if it is for a good cause. There is a time and a place
for everything, yes. People need to be told when they are being annoying or
out of line, yes. Things have gotten out of hand here with the random
trolliness, yes.
But pointing out everyone's flaws in one gigantic thread? Good lord, you
don't smack a dog on the nose a year after it pees on the carpet! You have
to nip that behavior in the bud, when it happens. Apparently, some people
here feel they've failed to do that. I admit there have been many things
that I have read and felt like, gee, someone should really say something.
Sometimes I have piped up in conversations with Anya when I felt she was
way off base, or FOD, etc. But normally, unless something is super annoying
I'd rather spend my time enjoying the rest of the site. The trolls are like
buzzing flies, too trivial to even deal with. I can't help but feel like
this isn't really about people trolling. If the site were healthier, I
don't think they would be that much of a problem.
The climate of Shmeng has been weird to me for a while. When I first
started coming here years ago it was a fun site with cool people who posted
these 2-5 paragragh rants about whatever was pissing them off that day. I
could come into work, plop down in my chair, and be entertained the rest of
the boring afternoon. If I felt I had something to contribute, I could
rattle it off in an hour or so, post it, and then reply back to any
comments it collected. I would say that things were very low pressure and
laid back, yet still pretty intellectual most of the time. There was a nice
family feeling to it, even for someone who only posted sometimes but read
it nearly every day.
Now, the pressure to submit something that is literary gold is too high. I
don't have the time to dump into an article that expresses some profound
truth to the world, or cross references every book ever written about bdsm
or polyamory. I am not a writer by trade. I don't care enough about most
people's mediocre fiction attempts to even read them. Eye candy is nice,
but there are thousands of sites where I can go look at hot photos of
people. I like hearing about the things that make people tick, and the
things that get under their skin. That was what Shmeng was like.
The whole thing is contradictory. On one hand, you're telling people, "just
be yourself and contribute something worthwhile and we will probably like
you." But then on the other hand you're telling them what they're doing
isn't good enough. So whose definition of worthwhile is it? Devin's, who is
keeping this whole thing going on a physical "I started it" level? Callei,
who seems to be the most vocal about the quality of the site declining? The
old members, who have been around forever? The unwashed masses, who
(apparently) are causing everyone to suffer with their drivel in the forums
but without them the site would have like 10 active members?
We have this unspoken rule in design critiques: if you can't offer a better
solution to something than the one being presented, keep your mouth shut. I
am breaking this rule because I don't really have a better solution.
Perhaps start posting the bad shit, and let everyone see how bad it really
is. Let the members have it like lions on a limping wildebeest. We will
take care of everything else, and the herd will be culled by proxy. Boring
or useless comments can be moderated out (unlike the forums) and so more
control will go back into the people who care enough about the site to
moderate. It also takes some of the pressure off the editor(s), and may
provide some much needed humor around here.
Just my 2, from the peanut gallery.
[Edited on 7/6/2004 by Kira] ____________________
Wind me up and make me crawl to you, tie me up until I call to you.
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feralucce
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 10:17 PM |
| Point of order... I have been just as strident in voxing on the trolls as
Callei... ____________________
The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
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Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist
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Alugarde
Member  Posts: 185 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 10:52 PM |
Ok...I didn't quite expect there to be this many responses by the time I
got back from work, so my response here seems a good deal later than I
would have liked it to been, but here goes...
Schizo: Actually, I was going to say something to Angel of Death about it
then and there, but Callei and a few others beat me to it, and I felt I had
nothing to contribute by adding my rant. However, I was a bit disappointed
that I didn't get to vent on the matter, so when I got a second chance to
do so here I took it. As for knowing me...I'll admit, I don't really feel
like much of anyone here knows me. I've been more aware of this lately, and
I'm a bit baffled as to why it is. Perhaps it is just the fact that I'm a
wishy washy Pisces, but I have been trying to make people know me a little
better of late. Or, at least I've wanted to. I just have no idea how to
fucking do it. I post what when I feel like I have something to say, but it
just isn't clicking for some reason.
Angel of Death: The fact that you admitted your mistake alone is enough to
convince me that you shouldn't shut up, that you have potential. Just take
a break, think about some things, and build up some confidence in your
actions.
Alugarde: You know what. I'm just as bad as Squid thinks Mono is with
regards to the self criticism. I hold myself to way too high of standards,
and maybe that's why people here don't really know me. I set up perceived
boundries and then get worried that I've crossed them.
Dom: Heehee, you said conquer instead of concur...that conjured up an
amusing mental image ____________________
l33t is the bastard cousin of contractions.
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Monolycus
Fanatic  Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/7/2004 at 11:05 PM |
Just like Alugarde, I had a quick glance at the board, worked a shift and
then had time (now) to come back to it. Makes a world of difference. My
first reaction was about the same as yours, Kira. I thought it was just
hatefulness for hatefullness' sake. Then I taught the kiddies and spent
the day telling them things like "Now, now... it's over. Let it go." and
"I don't care who started it."
Now I have gotten off of work and re-read the thread and I have to say I
laughed out loud a couple of times. I can't be peeved about it because I
can't really take it seriously. There might be some genuine criticisms
imbedded in the tirade somewhere, but if there are, I don't really agree
with them. It looks to me like a pretty good roast and, if I can be
self-absorbed (as usual), I'm flattered as all hell that my name even made
the list. Even if everything I say is garbage, it's good to know someone
is taking time out of their busy schedule to be annoyed by it.
~M. ____________________
"I believe that woman is planning to shoot me again."
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Rogue
Member  Posts: 199 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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 posted on 6/7/2004 at 05:26 AM |
Heh, I was kinda hoping that Shade or Callei or Monolycus or MJ or somebody
that had a clue would tear into me on here, but it looks like Domkitten has
stepped up to bat and I don't even remember arguing with her. I'd like to
disagree, but the best I can do there is to say that I often seem pissed
and offended when I am not for some reason. I was preparing to light into
Feral for being so quick to anger about the gothlings, but the more I look
for rebuttal citations, the more my argument is eroded. Apparently,
fluff-bunny syndrome is contagious and I seem to have contracted it from
Meranda.
Monolycus, I have actually been trying to come up with a way to softly word
what others have said here bluntly, that you worry and doubt too much of
what goes on between you and other people, or with life in general. What
has kept me from mentioning it before is the other argument, that you take
things as a personal attack when they usually are not. I'll be the first
(well, after DK) to admit that I share these faults, as you well know from
some of our discussions.
Devin, sysop trolling or not, Good On Ya for this one. Anybody uptight
enough to get bent about this forum will only have their uptightness
exposed by it, and anybody not so uptight could stand to look at themselves
in the harsh mirror that has been thrust upon us.
The Rubicon has been crossed, people, let all spleens be vented and let's
have a tough love orgy!
[Edited on 7/6/2004 by Rogue] ____________________
Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.
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Closetgothbabe
Member  Posts: 189 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/7/2004 at 07:02 AM |
| Rogue, LAME ASS!!! Get over yourself and start talking to people! How many
times does one person have to tell you that your a lame ass before you
realize it and do something about it. Stop your whining and speak up
damnit! ____________________
Guns are good, Guns are great...Kill the people that you hate!
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic  Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/7/2004 at 07:38 AM |
| Rogue, you're as bad as a troll. you stay silent for months on end and then
when it looks like people are getting attention for being twits, you jump
up and scream, "Me too! Me too!" I think Domkitten nailed you perfectly. I
can only add to that, people will not come beating a path to your door
unless you give them a damned good reason. It does you no good to sit
around and whine that nobody likes you when you don't make overtures of
friendship to begin with. Either start giving people reasons to like you
and want to talk to you or shut the hell up already. If you want attention
you have to do something to get it, and sitting around being distant and
then screaming that nobody pays attention to you is not going to cut it. ____________________
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