Actuallu, hereīs one of those places where I think a little older person
advice is in order. When I was 19 I got my tongue pierced (Professionally,
thatīs not what this is about). Now I know this is totally a personality
thing, but I played with the piercing alot, and just by nature I tend to
grind my teeth. About two years ago I took out my tongue piercing because I
realized I was getting dark streaks up my two front teeth because I had
actually managed to take tiny sliver chips out of my teeth. That and i had
worn an arc into the front teeth. As far as I can tell, itīs not life
threatening or even that damaging to the heath of my teeth, but I am a vain
creature and now I have to brush extra hard to get to the little divots,
and I willl always have a concave arc where I should have a straight line.
Just food for thought for all you teeth grinders thinking of getting your
tongue pierced.
-Shade
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all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of religion.
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Ianthe99
Member
Posts: 96 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 2/9/2002 at 01:41 PM
Umm.. yeah. I got my tongue pierced when I was about 19 too..
professionally, of course. That was about 8 years ago. Still got it. Itīs
not particulalry good for the teeth. Iīve got the whole grooved front teeth
thing too. Alone.. I *hope* you wernīt insulting the style. I mean, itīs
kinda dumb to do it yourself, true. But having one professionally done is
fine.
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Anonymous
Posts: 116 Registered: 14/4/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 2/9/2002 at 04:08 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhh!! I just gave a long lecture to a teen about why she shouldnīt
do her own piercings!!! Why do they insist!?!?
They ask their rents to get it done professionally, they say no, so the
kids do it themselves. This is a classic example. I donīt understand it.
The parents never say anything to the kids that do it themselves, they just
let it happen. Their kids are self mutilating!!! And they are neglecting
their kids by letting them do it! They arenīt trained... They donīt have a
clue of how to care for it afterwards.... And it WILL leave a fucking scar.
Have you ever seen a homemade cartilage piercing? It looks like shit; a big
crusty scar on your ear forever! If your kid does their own piercing
because you didnīt take them to do it professionally, and you do nothing to
stop them that is abuse/neglect. It is the same as a child saying "Mom I am
going to have sex, I need condoms and birth control" and the parent
responding "No. I donīt want you having sex. You will get no birth
control.". However in the situation of piercing, you get infected and
amputated body parts, not the clap and a baby. If they are going to do it
anyway, do it PROFESSIONALLY!!!!!! I cant see any logic in doing it at
home!!
Would you remove human waste from your septic tank by yourself? No, you
would die of exposure, and you do not have the facilities to take care of
or dispose of it.... SAME AS PIERCING!
STUPID!
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AloneSoul
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Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 2/9/2002 at 05:03 PM
Ianthe, I wasnīt. If I did I would have contradicted what I said earlier.
"Nope, I didnīt say that, if I did, Iīd be a ignorant fool. A good portion
of my friends do practice or have practiced self-mutilation in its many
forms and self-piercing is one which I consider a act of self-mutilation.
To me, itīs no different than self-suspension * hooks threw the flesh*,
cutting or self scarifcation.*cant spell it properly* I do believe that if
this is done properly (and safely) then it is a beautiful art."
What I meant was that the people who do pierce their tongues just for
bragging rites and to be accepted are idiots. Iīve seen it happen in my old
high school.
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Stille
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Posts: 42 Registered: 3/10/2003 Status: Offline
posted on 3/10/2003 at 02:59 AM
Actually, I've seen some really good cartilage self-piercings. The girl
that has them has probably pierced half the highschool(including myself)
and I've seen no trouble with it(probably because she pays a lot of
attention to sterilisation of everything she uses)
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ariadne
Member
Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
posted on 5/10/2003 at 07:42 AM
i must say that i agree with everyone on this forum that advises not to
mess around with this self piercing thing. long time ago ,10 years or so ,
i attempted to do my own nose. wrong answer, it was placed too low on the
nostril and looked utterly ridiculous. so i let it close up and got my nose
pierced professionally. needless to say that one is gone too with
absolutely no scarring, but my attempt to pierce my self left a really bad
scar reminding me of how idiotic i used to be. i know alot of kids
think that any infection inflicted will be only local and nothing to worry
about. wrong,there IS much to be worried about, blood born pathogens for
one. as far as some kind of spirituality attained by the tolerance of
pain that is really bogus, join the snake charmers of appalachia. or do
something not so moronic, study eastern mysticism, take a yoga or martial
arts , that is if the individual is seeking true enlightenment , that would
develop true mental mastery over pain and sickness. or if needles are your
pleasure under go acupunture and be safe about it. or on the serious
side of the subject , please get your piercings done professionally. that
way you know everything is sterile, they have these oven type things, i
4got what they are called, but i am sure that is more sterile and kills
more germs than a stupid ligher. let's not forget blood piosoning, tetanus.
It's called an autoclave and there are several different religious paths
out there, or paths that contain important ceremonies based on mastery or
tolerance of pain, some of them "eastern" (and do those include judaism,
islam, xianity? Last time I checked they're not only here, they're in the
"east" too, and most of them STARTED in the "east". and I also guess it
depends on where you're standing...).
If someone wants to worship a cult of pillbugs while snorting cocaine and
running fishooks under their nails, then it's as valid a form of
enlightenment as prayer or meditation. I just don't want to hear how cool
they think it makes them. And when their fingers fall off I get to laugh
because obviously their god hates them.
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ariadne
Member
Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
posted on 5/10/2003 at 08:05 PM
autoclave....that's right. hey, thanks. i was only trying to suggest
something positive ,whatever religious view point someone may have, no
mattter. it was just a suggestion. you're right though some religious
zealots are way out there.crazy,even.
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ariadne
Member
Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
posted on 5/10/2003 at 11:17 PM
ye gods! i see what you mean, i just read over my first post, i said "true
enlightenment" oh heck no, that's not what i mean, the devil made me do it
i swear.i love
all religions to some extent. just not when harm is inflicted on others
because they have seen" the light". many apologies. thanks for pointing
that out.scratch last post please. it makes no sense.
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IamSquid
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Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 6/10/2003 at 01:10 AM
As someone who's done all my own piercings I must say a few words:
(1)Only use needles for piercing! These can be obtained for free at any
needle exchange (usually where jnkies go to get their own needles but many
needle exchanges also carry piercing supplies too) if yoo can't get to a
needle exchange (for instance because yoo live in the middle of nowhere)
then go to Mills Fleet Farm and buy the giant needles they use to shoot up
cow (they generally range from 18 gauge to 10). In both cases the needles
come sterilized.
DO NOT PIERCE WITHOUT A CORRECT NEEDLE! This is how REALLY bad infections
occur. And I mean REALLY bad. IF yoo wanna show people yor cool enough
to stick needles in yorself don't show them yor stupid enough to get an
infection.
(2)If yor piercing through cartillage, make certain to use a needle one
size larger than the jewelry yoo plan on wearing (use a 12 gauge needle for
a 14 gauge ring through yor cartilalge)
(3)As a general rule, 14 and 12 gauge jewlry is what yoo should use. If
the jewelry is too small infection is likely and migration is possible
(meaning yoo pierced yor eyebrow but over time the bar yoo put in moved to
the point that it's actually dangling by a thread). Too large and yoo can
damage yorself in any number of different ways depending on what yor
piercing as well as the fact that if it gets infected it will be WAY
worse.
(4)Know something about anatomy. Did yoo know yoo have arteries in yor
tongue? Did yoo know there are major nerves going thorough yor cheeks that
can lead to total or partial paralysis if pierced? Do yoo know what
happens when yoo pierce an acupuncture or acupressure point? If not, then
yor a fuicking moron for stabbing yorself there.
(5)Keep everything clean! Go to the store and buy seasalt and use it ALOT!
Yoo can also by provon which is extremely important. Don't play with it
until it's healed? How will yoo know when it's healed? It will no longer
be crusty with puss and gore. It won't hurt when it brushes lightly up
agaisnt something or wiggles. In fact it will only hurt if yoo fucking
yank on it if it's healed (this also means if it's numb, warm, or something
else out of the ordinary, it's not healed).
(6)If it gets infected, TAKE IT OUT! Wash it out with provon. IF it's
REALLY bad or if it's still infected for a week or more go to the
doctor.
Get mee going and I might talk about how to handle brandings and
scarifications as well, seeing as some of my brandings got infected
(although thankfully not the ones I did myself). Skin peeling, pocketing,
stapling, and tongue forking I am not qualified to give advice on except
that yoo REALLY shouldn't do that shit at home (I dated a girl who had a
problem with her staples, it was disgusting).
____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl
Xaoswolf
Fanatic
Posts: 463 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 6/10/2003 at 07:27 PM
STAPLES?!
POCKETING?!
What the hell is wrong with you people?
I don't even have any clue what the hell those are, but damn!
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Does that make me a bad person?
BlueLinn
Fanatic
Posts: 246 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 14/1/2004 at 09:07 AM
all I have to say is DAMN!....
however, I have not the guts to pierce myself, or the equipment... I have
pierced 2 other people. One was a friend who just wanted another hole
through some scar tissue in her ear... SHe has about 18 holes in both ears,
both nipples, 3 tounge rings.. and I think that that was it. However on
this said day, I had been drinking crown royal and vodka and had skipped
Biology class and we were down at the restauraunt parkinglot near our
highschool. She gave me a safety pin and a lighter and it was increadibly
simple, just pop and she was done... Then this IDIOT decided she wanted her
nose done, by me, who was intoxicated and completely unknowledgable in the
arts of piercing. However, she gave me a safety pin, I got one of my extra
earrings, (I only have 6 piercings, 3 in each ear... pretty bland..) But
anyway, I torched the safety pin and jammed it in, it took about 5 minutes
because she kept pulling back, crying, and then begging me to finish it...
It was kind of creepy, kind of funny, and kind of sad. It is people like
that who just gives everyone else a bad name. But I got it all the way
through, and me and Meg, the girl who has tons of piercings keep on
laughing about it to this day... Incredibly humerous, though I won't ever
do it again, I probably wouldn't have done it at all had I not been
intoxicated.
And as for self mutillation, it is a method in which you harm yourself
for some release, not for ackowledgement or recognition from other members
of society to take pity upon you. Self-mutillation, if in fact is for said
purpose, should be readilly hidden or done during a stretch of time where
no one would really notice or on a part of the body not seen much.
Otherwise, it is just a sad cry for attention, and not the kind of
attention one would readilly want. It could lead to ruining your life such
as your parrents throwing you into a mental helth care facillity which
could potentially ruin the rest of your life.
Not to mention the point blank fact that, ANGST IS STUPID. Unless one has
true reasons for acting the way they do. then don't fucking pretend and do
it.
example: middle class- mom- dad- roof over head, food in stomach, not too
many fights around house... Yeah,, NO REASON AT FUCKING ALL TO HARM
ONE"SELF>.. anyway,,, that bit was a little angry rant about Meg's little
brother who is incredibly .... stupid. and does said examples for said
example reason... grrr.
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Asphodelis
Coward
Posts: 2 Registered: 16/5/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 16/5/2004 at 09:17 AM
quote] Does it bother you to see kids who purposley cut themselves in
obvious places to look cool or to look tough or to get attention? I am
serious...from the only other one or two that Iīve known, it made it that
much worse for them to see someone take an issue they knew nothing about so
lightly, so callously to attain an image that if they knew what it was
really like, would curl up and die.
It makes me sad because they don't know what they're walking into.
Self-mutilation might just start out as an attention grabber but it tends
to morph. At least, that's the way it was for me. I started on my arms, and
yeah, at the time it was dumb headed angst. I was stupid, I thought I had
"problems" ... but when I actually had true "problems" the pattern of
self-mutilation was already in place. I stopped working on my arms, because
people did see.
When kids stop working on their arms, stop gasping for attention it's
almost too late to help them. It almost makes me laugh with relief to see
others with flashy scratches because someone will see... and someone will
stop them because it's not too late to help. When you get sick with it, the
only way to stop is to want to ... and even if you do stop it never goes
away. So although you want to scoff at their stupidity, you might want to
hold their hand instead. It seems stupid, because they have no real
problems but times change.
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic
Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 17/5/2004 at 10:46 AM
I am basically done with piercings. I have two holes in each ear and one
ear cartilage piercing, I think I may want one or two more ear cartilage
piercings, but that is all.
____________________ "People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell
michaelsgirl204
Coward
Posts: 4 Registered: 14/10/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 21/10/2004 at 08:53 AM
i think that a piercing contest sounds fun. id do it ne way. i mean...dont
we all mutilate ourselves in some way? drinking, smoking, eating unhealthy,
cutting...even earpiercings are hurting yourself on purpose. diets suck
too
there is no way to never hurt yourself. its simply not done
i like blood and id pierce myself until i do get paraylzed. who gived a
shit. i just sit on my couch and sleep anyway. sounds like a party. lol
iv pierced myself in both ears, lip, nose and nipples
it fun! i encourage u to sterilize ur equiptment tho
just to b safe
Merry_Widow
Fanatic
Posts: 598 Registered: 24/8/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 21/10/2004 at 10:11 AM
OMG! Thanks so much for that safety tip! *giggle* I'm sure a sterilized
needle would just totally make everything super safe!
Tell you what, my little 14.8. I haven't had any coffee yet, so I'm feeling
lethargic and therefore, not as prone to murderous rage. Go back and
actually READ the forum. All of it. Turn off whatever filter you seem to
have upstairs that made you think your post was in anyway, shape, or form a
decent and meaningful response. Then come back, and try again. If that idea
doesn't apppeal, then by all means, pick up those stove-top sterilizations,
and pierce yourself untill all you can do is sit on the couch and shit and
drool.
____________________ Okay, dazzle me.
pale-face
Fanatic
Posts: 478 Registered: 22/9/2004 Status: Offline
posted on 21/10/2004 at 04:00 PM
Id definitely say self piercing is ridiculous. well, at least for my next
stunt. Im getting a fierce pierce (often called different things). bell
bar goes through the bone between your eyes. I'm not to sure if I want to
do it or not.
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Andree
Member
Posts: 112 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 21/10/2004 at 07:31 PM
I am weak . . . I cannot pass up a thread about piercings. That shit's
addictive--when I got my rook pierced less than a year ago, I insisted it
would be my only. Now I have five. Not only is that shit addictive; it's
also expensive. Altogether there are over three hundred dollars of holes
in me, and the left side of my lip is really asking for it.
Pale-face, are you talking about something other than a regular bridge
piercing? Bridge piercings don't go through the bone; they're not that
deep. You can only get 'em done if you have enough fleshy skin in that
spot. They heal pretty quickly, though . . . something like 6 to 12
weeks.
This reminds me, I have to do another paper for research writing class.
I'm thinking about doing it on piercing & society, but I don't know where
I'll go with that. Maybe I'll talk about the acceptance of body mods in
American society . . . the history of piercing culture, maybe.
Piercing really does have its own culture. Last weekend I was comparing
piercings with some man in a mosh pit.
I yelled, "What size is your conch?"
He said, "A four! And they pierced it at that."
"Did you eat the chunk?"
"Yeah."
"Me too!" I said, and showed him my conch.
"Whoa, what size is that!?"
"A two. . ." and I relished in my-gauge-is-bigger-than-your-gauge glory.
Then it got scary. "I have to show you something!" he said, and he
proceeded to reach down to his pants. I thought, Aah! No! I don't want
to see it! but he reached into his pocket and pulled out a lighter,
which he flicked on inside his mouth to show me his uvula piercing. Then I
showed him my nape, and he showed me his lowbrets, and it was a special
moment.
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