Like I said...TRUE self mutilation is the result of mental illness or
trauma. CUtting gives control to the person who feels in life they have
none. Itīs sad, itīs sick, and Iīm so sorry they chose to try to dope you
up instead of dealing with the real problems. People do that now, they
just want you in and out, make you indifferent, not fix your problems. It
also has to do with your chemical mental disposition...Iīve known people
from your exact situation...some turned out to be happy healthy adults,
some well...didnīt. Are dead or repeating their past over and over. Some
bury it, some talk it out, some try to cut it away.
So I have a question for you, the opinion of someone whoīs been down the
true mutilation street. Does it bother you to see kids who purposley cut
themselves in obvious places to look cool or to look tough or to get
attention? I am serious...from the only other one or two that Iīve known,
it made it that much worse for them to see someone take an issue they knew
nothing about so lightly, so callously to attain an image that if they knew
what it was really like, would curl up and die.
And for element...if you repeat over and over that itīs dangerous and
shouldnīt be done, why did you continue to do it? Iīm not being a snot,
Iīm serious. Iīm getting fucking old, I canīt even think like Iīm a FEW
years younger anymore...jesus it happens to the best of us.
Signed, the cranky "youīll put your eye out" old biddy:
Bettie
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Sticupus
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Posts: 254 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 28/8/2002 at 06:43 PM
Bettie, I want to have your children; you are a wise one. I know you are
right, but they are most likely not going to see the big picture and
listen. Never mind any of that: take a breath. If they choose to ignore
your wisdom, let them mutilate. This is the internet, the sea of
information will wash the bodies away. No clean up required.
Oh and to all that apply, http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org
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AloneSoul
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Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 28/8/2002 at 07:09 PM
I gotta answer this one, personally it angers me to see kids who perform
self-mutilation just for attention or glory.
Thatīs where the "theyīre doing it for attention" stereotype came from for
all "cutters."
Sticupus, one reason why I wonīt end my life is so I can watch those
brainwashed suicide cult fuckhead idiots suffer when the planet swallows
them whole.
I understand what the "artist" was trying to say in "I like to Watch" after
I poked around that site...but it made me want to put my fist threw his
fucking face. I donīt feel like going on about this now.
my dad also hits me and i dont have many friends i used to cut my arms but
never show it to some one now i do other stuf instead of that well i gues i
can hadle things beter now
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Kira
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Posts: 149 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 29/8/2002 at 08:06 AM
Oooooh!
I have an idea!
I challenge you to a leg-waxing contest! Since you like pain so much, just
imagine the lovely sensation of every little hair in your leg being ripped
from its follicle! And hey, if your friends make fun of you, you can
always join the swim team.
Now, the greasers really did it in style, if I am to believe everything
that Hollywood tells me. Two young boys, two hot rods, one makeout cliff,
and one hot betty to throw down the scarf to start the whole thing. But in
case youīre not old enough to drive...
how about a sun burning contest? We can both lie out in the sun until our
skin starts to blister. Definite potential for pain there...plus itīs
totally free!
I hope you realize how ridiculous this sounds. There are plenty of decent
reasons to put needles in your skin, none of which were even near
represented in your post. In fact, poking needles in your skin at school
is really just a trendy as fuck version of two rednecks sitting in a shack
somewhere jabbing the point of a hunting knife between
their fingers as fast as they can. Yuk yuk, looks like Cletus damn nar cut
off his index fangar!
No matter how you try to represent it, itīs still thinly veiled macho man
bullshit. The sooner you grow out of this, the better off you will be.
Preferably before you lose any body parts.
:-o
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I do intend to have children sometime, and I doubt that they will be
perfectly behaved, totally well adjusted, and listen to every word I say
and live accordingly. That wouldnīt be right, they wouldnīt be kids, and
they wouldnīt be MINE
Kids, tho they never seem like they do, listen to their parents, but as
human beings have to take in info and make their own decisions. And people
make wrong decisions all the time. People learn from them. All you can do
is your best, hope they can make the BEST ones even if theyīre not always
the RIGHT ones, and push them back in the right direction when they need
it.
Kira: I do agree with you TOTALLY. Itīs all (except in the case of kids
that are emotionaly destroyed or mentally ill or traumatised) posturing,
machoism, bigger badder tougher cooler than *entername* Kids posture.
Kids try to make a way for themselves, a name for themselves, but when I
was a kid, shoving needles through our bodies wasnīt even something we
thought of to do, because it was STUPID. We did typical shit like call
each other names, climb trees higher, and rode our bikes faster. Iīm a
dork, I know, but man, cīmon.
I wonder if I really DO want to bring children into a world where itīs
considered "common" or "just a teenage thing" for children either disturbed
or proud to stick shit through dangerous parts of their body.
It aīint common.
It aīint normal.
It aīint a goddamned phase.
Sign of the times? Reflection of how kids are being raised and the
environment they are being rasied in?
Perhaps.
Scary thought.
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Comedian
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Posts: 213 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 29/8/2002 at 01:45 PM
Good question to ask yourself, is what did [insert body part] ever do to me
that I have to impale/puncture/stab/cut/place a plastic compound within it
to show it a lesson?
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Element-Masiya
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Posts: 56 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 29/8/2002 at 06:53 PM
hmmm. i didnīt know i could bring out the smart ass out of everyone but
itīs all good. And to the preson who challenged me to the leg waxing
contest..."think before you release words of thoughtless immaturity." do
you really think leg waxing or a sunburn would actually feel the same as a
needle going through flesh by your own hand? *sigh. why should i even
bother proving my point sometimes. and to reply about playing the macho
personality. you have to understand that this isnīt an armwrestling
contest. itīs to see whoīs able to seperate their mind from their body and
realize that pain is just a mental thing. even though i know that flesh
wounds from cuts and piercings isnīt going to hurt, doesnīt mean that iīm
going to go and totally self-mutilate my body. :roll: :lol:
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Kira
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Posts: 149 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 29/8/2002 at 07:25 PM
No, you donīt bring out the smartass in me...it is just a loveable part of
my personality. Yes, I have both waxed my legs (and *ahem* other parts of
my body) and stuck needles through various parts back in my younger and
more ridiculous days. The pain is comparable. Trust me.
I agree with bettie, there are some cases where self mutilation is a
physical manifestation of psychological problems. I used to work for
disability services on campus, and I saw a girl there weekly who Iīm pretty
sure was carving herself up with a razor blade. A little overweight,
frumpy, shy, etc. Our testing cubicles (I read tests for people) were
horridly hot, so she always had to take off her sweater... I would never
poke fun at someone like that. She made me want to cry.
Seperating physical pain from mental state is valid. But when itīs done as
some kind of "challenge" or "contest" it ceases to become something totally
self involved and turns into a glorified pissing contest. Besides, if that
were really what it was about there are a million more beneficial and
constructive (and just as painful) things one could do. For example, any
activity that pushes ones physical body such as martial arts or cross
training.
But hey, if you like oozing sores and scars...be my guest.
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Ironboots
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Posts: 893 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 29/8/2002 at 07:46 PM
I wouldnīt bet on how painful waxing is until youīve tried it... It looks
bad. And putting a sharp needle into your skin is a lot less painful than a
ripping of hair. Remember... blunt=painful sharp=not
And sunburns are real bitches. Try moving to someplace sunny and see how
not painful it is. Not to mention the risk of cancer/sunstroke. If you even
tinge pink, itīll be itching for a day at least. How long does a pin prick
last, huh?
Why canīt you guys just play bloody knuckles? Sheesh... Whatever happened
to the -good- old macho games? Or Mercy? What about holding your arms out
at your sides for eons? That is torture, but gladly undertaken with the
right attitude.
Oooo bloody knuckles I fucking HATED THAT. TOTALLY forgot about mercy
too...jesus, I must have had head trauma as a kid to forget that...
Kira youīve got it right on the beeper. Couldnīt agree with you more.
When it becomes a contest it loses itīs "spiritual" aspect and becomes just
what it is, machoism on a whole new level. And goddamned, youīd NEVER lose
to me in a leg waxing contest *shreek* and as for sunburns, I donīt just
burn I fucking COMBUST.
Little blond haired blue eyed fair skinned monsters like me go up faster
than a tar torch at a headhunter barbecue.
Then the black layer crusts up and falls off and Iīm whiter than I was
before.
*shudder*
All I remember is bodyboarding in florida when I was 9...in the ocean all
day, sunscreen wore off, all that water magnifying the sun onto my poor
little bottom. Letīs just say I couldnīt sit for a week and I"ve NEVER had
to actually PEEL a swimsuit edge OUT of my skin before or since.
*shudder*
Yīall can do your crazy leg waxing/sun roasting contest and I"ll sit under
my umbrella in a tub of sunscreen hairy as a sasquatch and do the judging,
okay?
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Xaoswolf
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Posts: 463 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
posted on 30/8/2002 at 06:30 AM
He He, my wrist still gives out on me from the time I played mercy with my
friend Sumo, please note, that is not just a clever nick name for my 250+
lbs friend, and every now and then Iīll land on something wrong and my
ankle will give out from that time I severely twisted it racing someone
down eight flights of steps. I have a few scars from playing speedball
(itīs paintball, but really close) and blister ball(like speed ball, but
even closer). And when we used to wrestle, we never did it for a pin, it
was to tap or KO(and there were a few of those). Plus there were the good
old lighter and candle games of who can hold their hand closer to the
flame.
I guess I had my fair share of stupid macho games, but I grew up I guess,
now I just race people on the highway, of course, I donīt know if thatīs
better or worse...
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Does that make me a bad person?
Ianthe99
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posted on 30/8/2002 at 10:55 AM
I love it.. he asks for opinions, then gets indignant when they are given.
Sorry dearie, spirituality isnīt a game or a contest. "Ooh look dude.. Iīm
more spiritual than you!" What-the-F-ever. Sticking pins through your
various bits to see which one of you can top the other is.. like Kira
said.. a pissing contest.. or a dick-waving contest.. or whatever little
testosterone fueled game you want to call it. You asked.. weīre telling.
Most of the adults think itīs pretty silly.. or stupid. No.. itīs not
because we "Donīt understand you" itīs because we have been young before..
we LEARNED from it.. now weīre telling you what we learned. And we have
learned.... that itīs dumb.
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Litho
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Posts: 3 Registered: 21/7/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 30/8/2002 at 11:51 AM
whatever happened to pie eatting contests? Those are always fun to watch.
I think I lost interest in ever being in one of those after watching "stand
by me" and the chain puking story.
I dontī race people on the freeway, but roadrage is my middle name. Iīm a
courteous driver until some asswadd decides itīs FAR more important to get
to the STOPLIGHT FIRST than NOT put my life at risk.
Machoism is a way of life in teenage years. Itīs all "stupid" itīs all
"pointless" but well, weīre animals and "king of the hill" is something all
juvenile animals play. Itīs a social survival of the fittest.
I just wonder when it started to get..well...more stupid.
I can see it in a few years in an even more "enlightened" world.
*I* can meditate LONGER than YOU.
Yeah, well *I* can LEVITATE longer than you.
Yeah, well *I* can FAST longer.
OKay Iīll settle this. Hereīs some gasoline and two lighters. Weīll have
a burning monk contest. Whoever finally screams before they die isnīt
enlightened.
I canīt wait. Iīll have to buy a video camera before then.
*starts pinching pennies*
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I_Eat_Nuns
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Posts: 1 Registered: 18/8/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 31/8/2002 at 02:48 PM
sounds like fun!..*uses old woman voice* back long when i was a little girl
in 7th grade all the kids, one night decided to pierce a body part..the
strange thing was no one told anybody else they was gonna do it... some how
we all ended up coming to school the next day with something mutilated ..me
..i did my tongue with one of those little beginner earrings, that have a
needle point on one end....fun fun....*BACK TO REGULAR VOICE* whatever
floats yer boat :-P
Okay, please tell me youīre joking about the tounge thing*
~bites fist trying not to divulge how itīs muscle, and has a major artery,
the higher risk of a blood infection, paralyzation, gagging, or bleeding to
death....
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AloneSoul
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Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 31/8/2002 at 11:36 PM
Donīt forget losing taste sensations if done VERY incorrectly.
Losing your sense of taste is the LEAST of concerns of piercing your own
tounge.
Bleeding to death from piercing the major artery or succeeding and not
having proper sterilization/aftercare and getting a BLOOD infection. Blood
infections are extremely dangerous, can cause brain damage, heart damage,
liver damage you NAME it..anywhere your blood goes. Oh, and donīt forget
DEATH.
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AloneSoul
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Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
posted on 2/9/2002 at 12:43 AM
Yup but all that adds another flavor to the mix.
The flavor of excitement! *maracas shake*
And also its cool and rebellious to have a metal stud piercing your
fragile tongue.
People learn from mistakes.
Stupid people dont.
Im telling you just wait and see who comes out of this one.
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