diabolus_ab_caliga
Occasional Poster Posts: 12 Registered: 27/3/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 27/3/2003 at 02:29 PM |
I'm just wondering, how many of you actually use traditional spelling? For
instance spelling magic as magick. vampire as vampyre or fairy as faerie?
People often critisize the way my friends and I spell "Magick". I think
tradition spelling has a more interesting touch to it... |
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Monolycus
Fanatic Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/3/2003 at 05:01 PM |
I am really tickled to hear that people in the UK are getting marked down
for using American spelling... all through college my professors were
sending back my papers and demanding that I dump the anglicisms. I have
been balancing my chequebook for years, while the rest of my peers are
balancing their checkbooks. Still, I refuse to apologise for not spelling
it "apologize". Like Merry_Widow, I read and internalised far, far too
much British literature as a child and I see no reason now to throw my
anglicisms out by the kerb.
The interesting thing, to me, is that the majority of the spelling
differences between what is ostensibly the same language come from
small-mindedness in the late 18th century. After America won its war of
Independence, it was so anglophobic that they deliberately adopted the
avoirdupois system of weights and measures and, where possible,
standardised their spelling to be as unlike the English as possible. This
might seem a bit childish, but you must bear in mind that we are talking
about the ancestors of the same people who are giving you "freedom fries"
because they had an argument with the Franks.
My field of special study in college was archaeology, and nowhere have I
seen this pettiness taken to a more absurd degree. The British and
American schools of archaeology are so petty and competitive, that rarely
do they have the same words to describe things (a piece of broken crockery
in English archaeology is a shard, in America it is a sherd... for no
readily apparent reason apart from being a pain the arse), and when they do
have the same words in their jargon, it is generally a safe bet that they
are referring to two different things (a postmold in America is a darkened
stain in the soil left over as a support beam degraded away... I would have
to take a special class to tell you what a British postmould refers to).
This silly petulance makes language dynamic and linguistically interesting
while keeping anyone from being too terribly offended with the certain
knowledge of what their neighbour might just have said about them.
~M. |
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Merry_Widow
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posted on 30/3/2003 at 10:53 AM |
Man, I drove my teachers nuts when I used to spell it colours, and all that
jazz. I picked it up from books I read as a kid, and I still haven't
dropped it completely. Now it's driving my spellchecker up the wall. ____________________ Okay, dazzle me. |
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/3/2003 at 09:40 AM |
As for vampire/yre, I prefer wampire, my step-daughter's version. Somehow
it just brings to mind vampires with big mallets, going around whacking
people with them... WHAMP WHAMP!!!
I like grey rather than gray, but that's an alternate spelling in the
dictionary, isn't it? Faerie looks nicer than fairy, and I agree with the
Disneyish connotation of the latter spelling. But writing faerie just
seems a trifle affected, so I don't bother. As for extraneous letters,
etc., that kind of annoys me, but if you really want to, I won't stop you.
But the people who are addicted to that kind of spelling often DO end up
being "wannabe's", so it's a temptation to make a quick wannabe label when
I see someone using y's for i's and adding e's on the end of words. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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Erishkigal
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posted on 30/3/2003 at 07:38 AM |
Yeah... colour/color, flavour/flavor, armour/armor... all that stuff. I
always get taught to spell it with the U or it justs gets marked wrong,
hehe. Now it seems odd to me to see it without. ____________________ Let viagra bring the magic back. |
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Psychopixi
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posted on 30/3/2003 at 03:33 AM |
The differences between english and american spelling tend to annoy my
english teachers! I normally write colour as color and all the other words
that are meant to have a 'u' in them like that I leave out. I think the
words look better without the 'u', pluss it takes longer to type!
Also stuff like 'theatre' bugs the hell out of me. Why can't it be
"theater"? ____________________ Do not fear death so much, but rather the inadequate life. |
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KatB
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posted on 29/3/2003 at 09:41 PM |
If memory serves me, I think we were taught in school that there are quite
a few differences between English and American. I am just too giddy right
now to remember any of the examples!
Baaah, and I just HATE not having any of the languages down to the
fingertips, I'd LOVE to express myself like most of you guys do, and not
using five words to describe something because I don't know the correct
term. It sux
And since it obviously went unnoticed the first time (frowns at Ironboots
) Magic and
Macick ARE two different matters, even to those who disapproves of the
content of either. It was not an invention to be 'special', simply to point
out the difference.
For example - my band, Magicka, was originally called Magica (hommage to
Disney's Magica de Spell) but I found out later that that name was taken,
and since I DO include references to magick in some of my lyrics, the
natural choice was to add the extra 'k'. I really would have preferred it
without, since I too am a bit tired of 'magickal mystery' BS.... (Sorry
MRD, no offence intended!)
____________________ All stressed out and no one to choke...
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/3/2003 at 05:03 PM |
I used to write flavor as flavour and honor as honour, then I decided I was
doing it only to be pretentious. I like to write gray as grey because it
sounds prettier to me. (I'm so superficial...awww.) I write fairy for
pretend fairies, like in a costume, but I write fae and fey for real
faeries. (Ohhh...worry if I'm delusional.) I stand by my claim.....I do
what the voices in my head tell me to. Muahahahaha. ____________________ "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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Erishkigal
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posted on 29/3/2003 at 03:35 PM |
Whats wrong
with writing it 'grey'?...its the only way I've been taught! ____________________ Let viagra bring the magic back. |
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Monolycus
Fanatic Posts: 580 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/3/2003 at 03:14 PM |
If you really wanted to be "traditional", It would be neither "fairy" nor
"faerie" but rather "fayery" and would refer to the place where the beings
lived and not the beings themselves (ie; Nuns all live in a nunnery, and
the fay live in a fayery). Of course, running with that kind of internal
consistency, I would say that a drunkard is someone who drinks to excess,
anyone named Richard is someone who is rich to excess, and I guess a
bastard would be someone who bastes to excess ("Take that, turkey!").
Anyway, I have far, far too many anglicisms in my everyday lexicon for me
to get irritated about somebody else's literary affectations.
~Monolycus. |
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Nicholas
Member Posts: 74 Registered: 17/3/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/3/2003 at 03:03 PM |
I think a vampyre is a vampire that gets stuck out in the sun.. get vam P Y
R E!
HAHAHAHAHAHAhahaaa.... i kill me ____________________ "Be neither a master nor a slave to pudding, for there is a time to gather,
and a time to cast pudding away" |
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Closetgothbabe
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posted on 29/3/2003 at 07:12 AM |
I prefer blunt eg: fuck you, fuck off, DIE etc.....
it works for me! ____________________ Guns are good, Guns are great...Kill the people that you hate! |
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IamSquid
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/3/2003 at 04:33 AM |
good shit, Devin
my favorite was always "Fuck yoo and the whores yoo rode in on" ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl |
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/3/2003 at 07:59 PM |
I also write grey. I have always preferred it that way. Why the hell not?
Whatever floats your boat. Whatever tickles your pickle. Whatever spanks
your monkey. ____________________ "People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life…I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell |
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Mutant_Duckie
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posted on 28/3/2003 at 04:39 PM |
who told you that was 'traditional??' LOL.. sheesh.. ____________________ ~~ QUACK! |
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diabolus_ab_caliga
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posted on 28/3/2003 at 04:32 PM |
Meh, I like spelling it like that. Ah well, whatever works...it's all good.
Does anything really matter nowadays? |
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Ironboots
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 893 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/3/2003 at 03:52 PM |
I don't use 'magick' or 'vampyre', but I do use 'faerie' and 'grey' (as
opposed to gray), since it looks better... *shrugs*
Each man's* speech to his own.
* I mean women's, too... ____________________ Piggy's got the Conch! |
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MystryssRavynDarque
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 648 Registered: 24/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/3/2003 at 01:28 PM |
Haven't we had a similar conversation such as this before Devin? Yes,
sometimes I like to spell vampire, vampyre just for the hell of it. I
don't do that to make myself look "cool" and I love to spell night "nite,
because I prefer it. So do whatever the hell you wanna do, and if you ever
become a published author, you can get away with mispellings. Lord knows
how many mispellings or such you will catch in books during a lifetime. ____________________ "People always say what we are looking for is a meaning for life…I don't
think that's what we're looking for. I think what we're looking for is
the
experience of being alive." -Joseph Campbell |
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Devin
Administrator Posts: 317 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Online
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posted on 28/3/2003 at 11:41 AM |
I'm all for creative spelling when it adds to the meaning of what you're
saying. Changing vampire to vampyre says absolutely nothing to me.
You can have lots of fun with spelling but not by trying to make yourself
look cool by pretending you're speaking olde english. Olde englysh was not
kewl. The reason everything was spelled wrong in old english is because
nobody knew how to spell. And I agree with Dolo about everything being
spelled different every thyme time tyme tiym tahm thayme tihmme - that
doesn't make it cool in any way, just illiterate.
These are creative fun ways to mis-spell:
Do you want to cum over after work?
Are you're whoremoans making that chair uncomfortable?
These make you sound like you want to be creative and literate but
aren't:
I'm a 500 year olde vampyre (trapped in a 16 year olde bodye)
My Magick is more stronger than your magic
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RavensSoul
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posted on 28/3/2003 at 10:35 AM |
Just so ya know.... Magic and Magick aren't the same thing. People
practicing witchcraft or any form of dark or light arts added the " K " to
the word magic to distinguish the two. Magic refers to the stuff actors (or
whatever those people claim to be) do on stage, for example: Sawing a woman
in half. Magick refers to old healing techniques, summoning demons or
whatnot, and the basic casting of spells.
As for vampyre and faerie. I don't know what the fuck is up with that. ____________________ In my eyes, to be human is not to be able to live and die, but it is to
feel pain, love, happiness, and all other things that keep our hearts from
freezing over into the bloody ice that distinguishes man from the beasts of
night. |
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