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Author: Subject: what makes you gothic

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  posted on 22/7/2002 at 03:00 PM
I consider myself gothic and I always have, but in the last year my parents have thrown most of my gothic clothing. I have managed to save my favorite Kurt Cobain shirt, my pink arm hose, my pentacle and some make up. I understand that gothic people usually dress in all black and have fucked up hair colors and all that other stuff, but does not wearing all that make me less then the ones who do? I don’t think so but my opinion doesn’t always matter. I look at the inside of a goth, see if there is the goth in there soul.
That’s were it should lie, not in there clothes. I bring this topic to you all to see were all of you stand. If you met me and said I no words at all I wonder if you would be able to tell. I don’t really wear being gothic as a badge anymore I let people find it out on there own, it makes it more fun to watch them gasp. Coming from a very small school in the middle of nowhere, gothic is like a sin. They (the school) consider me the ringleader of all the trouble in the school. If only they could open the feeble minds of the school and the world they would see that there precious jocks are the ones to blame. I may be goth but I try my best to be a good student even though I suck ass at English and always am I frowned upon. I am getting off of my subject; I want to know what the respectable voices of Shmeng have to say.
What do you think makes a goth gothic?
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  posted on 22/7/2002 at 05:36 PM
I´m gothic. It is in the soul. You see the world differently, you feel the need to create. You know you aren´t mediocre. You know you´re different. I come from the middle of no where and go to school in a small town. No one else in my grade, the grade above me or the grade below me is gothic, and if they dress it it probably doesn´t mean they really are. Anyone can wear a lot of black and claim to be gothic but that doesn´t automatically make them goth. Some people are goth and aren´t good at writing or art but they´re good at other things and they use those skills for the better. Goths see the world as it is. And how it should be. It does come from within. No matter how you dress.

 

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  posted on 22/7/2002 at 06:03 PM
I wear hawaii´an shirts. I´m a goth! A GOTHIC goth. Ho ho ho.

 

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  posted on 22/7/2002 at 09:03 PM
I hear this often and it usually will bring out the worst in people for some reason.
We all know how it happens so lets try and keep our tempers in check?

*Note: I consider culture both nationality and personal style, if that makes sense*

What makes me goth? I could get into my life´s story, tragic, painful, traumatic childhood and so on but I´m not. It’s extra baggage which doesn’t need to be dropped off here. In my opinion, I don´t really consider myself gothic or anything but myself.

But, if you want to say that you’re involved with that culture *style etc* of being gothic, punk or what not, in my opinion, what makes you a TRUE goth, punk, etc is if you are a independent person. This meaning not following the trends and being the person that you feel you are, not the person which other people want you to be.

Anywho, that’s what I believe and that’s how I feel.

 

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  posted on 22/7/2002 at 09:51 PM
see I feel the same and I am so tired of getting the shit from the people who think its the looks. I actually hit a bitch for saying shit like "your wearing yellow...your not goth." I never ever thought that I would find people that would love me for me, then I came here. No one cares that I am odd and shit. One thing I hate more than someone who doesn´t like me for being gothic, is some one who hates me for my sexuality. YES I´m bi, GET OVER IT!!

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 06:10 AM
I know a girl whose bi, shes cool shit She has skin cancer. This one girl made fun of her for it, it was so mean. People at school suck, you just have to deal with it. Most don´t talk to me anyway, I´m not very tactful when they ask my opinion on something. :wink:

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 09:01 AM
I´m a closet goth. I havent come out yet. But when i put on those fishnets and black eyeliner...IT MAKES ME WANNA DANCE!!!! WEEEE HOOOO

But seriosly, im a poser. Just look at my picture...It says HUSTLER! Wait a tick, HUSTLER IS GOTH AS FUCK!!!!! AHHH YEEEAH!! I mean, i´m depressed!!!! *Starts singing show tunes*

No wait, i´m the silly goth...no i´m the *gun shot* clump

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 09:10 AM
I´m a quiet goth, one of those goths who-if bothered constantly-will lash out. Otherwise I´m a nice goth. I´m just me. goth in my own way.

 

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And the morning paper ran


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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 09:37 AM
Ummm... Not quite goth, but more Rivethead, you can tell by all the ravers squished under my boots. :evil:

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 11:14 AM
i don´t claim to be anything; i´m just me. But most people at my school regard me as either "goth" or "freak" (ok, 70% freak...)

it´s a living

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 11:17 AM
At school i´m regarded as both goth and freak.

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 07:12 PM
Before I graduated high school, I was more or less respected by everyone there. I had alot of friends in high school *unlike elementary school...lousy tramatic childhood* and when I get into a fight, I tend to well, become the devil in human form.

heh, but other than that lil´ problem, I just respected everyone no matter how they choose to live their lives and I got the same respect in return.

Yeah, there are a few assholes in my old school who always wanted to start trouble but they backed down when I was ready to slam their heads into a locker...

Wow...

I was a pretty violent guy. . . But, they deserved it for mistreating so many people.

Anywho!

The point is, at school people did too label me a goth. When they asked "Are you a goff?" I´d reply "no, I´m just myself."

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 10:18 PM
alonesoul! right on! honestly, i never believed in how anyone could be "gothic" or have a "gothic" personality because when it comes down to it, everyone is just themself.

(here comes my two cents, you may want to duck & cover)

the whole gothic culture thing isn´t made up of people who are "gothic", it´s made up of people who share interests which could be called "gothic".

they (not everyone) dress in a fashon called "gothic". they find common interests and band together and call themselves "gothic".

Fine, let the masses call themselves what they wish, but when i see someone i don´t see a goth, i see them.

when it comes down to it, you´re not a goth, you´re just yourself. too many people have trouble accepting that. :-( now everyone will be mad at me...

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 10:35 PM
I am not mad.........I asked for your opinion and I got it...I respect it too....same for everyone else.....thanks......much love
Ly

 

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  posted on 23/7/2002 at 10:38 PM
*grins*

 

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  posted on 24/7/2002 at 09:52 AM
Umm...my ribbed vaults, pointed arches, and flying buttresses make me gothic? :-o

Heehee. Sorry, I couldn´t resist.

 

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  posted on 24/7/2002 at 10:25 AM
i thought it was illuminated text and imaginative use of color....

 

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  posted on 24/7/2002 at 11:27 AM
Imaginative use of color, definitely. However I am feeling somewhat less than illuminated today...

 

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  posted on 24/7/2002 at 01:05 PM
heh, for some reason this post reminds me of the question "Which came first, the chicken or the egg..."
Then it was found out the single cell organisms came first...
But that´s besides the point.

What I’m trying to get at, the whole “what makes the individual a goth, punk, prep” etc is really just a question which can only be answered by the personal opinion. Even if you say you’re doing it to follow the trend, it’s still a answer. *as sad as it is and in my opinion, which contradicts what I just said, is wrong.*

Now this whole thing can get even more complicated when you ask someone “what makes you a TRUE (insert association here)” but still, the right or wrong answer lyes only in the eye of the beholder.

And Duckie, I agree with you 100% when it comes to seeing people as they are and not by what they wear. Noone is really a goth, punk, prep, skater or whatever you’d want to be associated with, you are yourself. That, really does piss people off, especially those which take these things too seriously...

That is unless you come from a country called "gothoania"....yeah, then you could say you that....
*thinks...that didn´t make too much sense*

 

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  posted on 8/8/2002 at 03:19 PM
I actually don´t consider myself gothic. You´re probably thinking I´m one of those that say ´labels suck´ and think I´m on any higher level than people that label themselves. I didn´t see someone like this and say ´that´s cool, I want to be them´...I could be like the originator of this outlook. But I´m interested in the...scene, is it? The music, the opinions, and the poetry that comes from the gothic mind. I like their style and state of mind. I wear it on my sleeve, and in my heart, and all over me.

 

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