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Merry_Widow
Fanatic   Posts: 598 Registered: 24/8/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/9/2005 at 06:45 PM |
| I heard it in Helen Lovejoy's voice from the Simpsons. Highly entertaining. ____________________
Okay, dazzle me.
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic  Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 05:45 AM |
Oh, I get it now! I see! You felt threatened and apprehensive because of
how someone was dressed! You saw the scary flannel and recognized that
these were potentially dangerous people who just might show their asses
around your kids! How in the world do you stand to have your kids around
your freak friends? Or anybody, for that matter? Someone, somewhere,
regardless of how they are dressed, could say something rude to you,
traumatizing your children.
Please.
You looked at these people, saw how they were dressed and made assumptions
that they were making assumptions about you. You were giving them a dirty
look, even as they were giving you one of their own. And even if they were
looking like they were going to approach you, they didn't. You worry too
much. Most of us with children have never had such a situation. Or maybe we
have and just didn't pay any attention to it because it really wasn't a big
deal. I mean, really. If someone is making an ass of themselves, it usually
has very little to do with the other person and everything to do with the
fact that they have a personal problem with themselves. Why do you keep
trash-talking the rednecks? Maybe you should look to your own backyard in
this situation. You know, rednecks are people too. The point is, you have
no idea what they were thinking, because they never spoke to you. Maybe the
guy was having a bad day, and the scowl on his face had nothing to do with
you personally. Maybe he was thinking about his wife or his own kids. The
point is, you don't know!
You say you want to have a discussion about people with children who got
into fights in front of their children because of how they were dressed and
it scared them. Hm. I gave you my answer on that. It never happened.
Now, there was this one time, when I had my kids at a park and some teenage
girls started getting belligerent with a woman I was talking to... She had
said to me, "Watch your kids around those girls, they're bad news." The
little girls came over to us and started being threatening in that silly
little way of young girls who think they have something to prove... "Are
you talking about us?" They got into my face and started waving their
hands around like idiots, so I got out my cell phone and said that I was
calling the police because they were being unruly in a public place. They
left. What amazed me during this altercation was the fact that the other
two mothers that were talking to me at the time, had started yelling back
and forth with these girls, just like they were little punk kids too. I had
put my hands on their arms and said, "Now ladies, we are the adults here.
Try to act like it." Actually, once the girls left, I thought the whole
thing was pretty funny. My kids were pretty young, one was a toddler and
one was a baby, but I don't think they were scared. I wasn't worried about
them being scared. What I was worried about was that one of my more adult
companions was going to assault one of the little girls, causing no end of
grief that I would be witness to. Anyway, that's the only real story that
I have. Nothing to be scared of. No traumatized children. Just three
chastised teenage girls and two subdued women. And all without me carrying
on and causing a scene. Business as usual. And it had nothing to do with
how I was dressed.
Was that the kind of discussion you were looking for? I mean, that was
something that really could have escalated... it wasn't just dirty looks
passed in a parking lot. I didn't get hysterical about it. I just handled
the situation. This is actually the first I've really spoken about it,
because it really wasn't that big a deal. I'm sure the other mothers here
have had situations, possibly really scary ones, that they handled with
confidence and grace and then put out of their minds. I am really puzzled
at why you are so concerned over just a few dirty looks. Nothing happened.
Get over it. Or do you just want to trash-talk rednecks in general? Make
fun of their man-boobies and slovenly appearance? Personally, I have no
interest in that.
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ariadne
Member   Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 06:11 AM |
| They were saying stuff to each other about me. That part is fine and I
don't really care about that. The guy wasn't just standing there looking at
me nonchalantly either, He was standing in a threatening stance, like a
rooster would if he were looking to fight. He was standing there
maliciously glaring at me while his buddies were lready in the car. I was
not doing anything to him. The way our cars were positioned. It was very
easy for me to glance up at him and see him standing there because as I was
unloading my children I caught him standing there in the corner of my eye
and I happened to glance up. I was not glaring at him. He did not just
hesitate before getting into his car either. He was standing there watching
me. It was actually kind of creepy. He DID have a look of hatred on his
face that I noticed as I glanced up rather quickly. I kept watching him out
of the corner of my eye as I walked into the restaurant. As I got closer to
the restaurant he finally got into his car. The thing is he stood there for
a long time doing that. This is why I did bring it up. It wasn't, to me,
your average harrassment from the local rednecks, it could have been for
any other reason than my appearance but I highly doubt it although I wasn't
even dressed like a freak. I am really amused at the way I have made all of
this clear and have explained what had taken place that day and everything
and I still get the same reaction. So I am the dumb shit for sharing an
experience that was more uncomfortable than usual. This guy acted fucking
crazy. I am not claiming to know what people are thinking here , I am just
stating what happened. If none of you can accept that this actually
happened then so be it. I am not here to down rednecks. I am just making a
statement that these guys were freaking rednecks. I am just calling them
what they were. Rednecks do exist around here, I am sorry, but they do. I
didn't start this discussion to be so misunderstood because that is EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENED. You people hear something subcultural and automatically
assume an attack is necessary. Never once thinking that this situation
might have actually been a creepy one. This guy was evidently trying to
intimidate me and that was what I was trying to convey here. Apparently ,
all of you with what you claim to be intelligence can't see this discussion
for what it is. It is no more than what it is. I am not trying to put
anybody down. I am only sharing what happened to me, and in the beginning I
said that this situation did not escalate but it did make me think and
wonder if anybody had ever had a situation that did. So all these other
accusations and everything are out of line. Try reading what I wrote
instead of putting words into my mouth for once. ____________________
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 06:53 AM |
*sigh* Oh dear. I got it all wrong *again*. Let me start over.
Oh, you poor dear! How awful that must have been for you! Those terrible
men! I hope they're ashamed of themselves, frightening a young mother with
her poor, defenseless children. You are right to worry. There are bogeymen
everywhere, just waiting to be hateful toward anyone they see as different.
And how brave you are, keeping your special, unique identity in such an
intolerant society! We're all very proud of you here. Why, you could have
been seriously injured, if he had come at you, the big brute! And your poor
children would have had that terrifying image to carry with them for the
rest of their lives! How lucky you were that he got into his car and drove
away. Why, I don't know what the world is coming to, when dirty,
big-tittied men can glare hatefully at innocent young mothers who are
minding their own business with their children. Children ought to have some
kind of protection from people like *that*. Why, they shouldn't even be
allowed to walk the same streets as everyone else, if they can't be
bothered to mind their own business. Of course your children would have
been frightened if they had seen their mommy attacked without provocation
like that. It would have shattered any sense of security they had! How
would they ever cope with the world after that? It's a very, very good
thing that things didn't escalate between you and the sweaty ape. I hope
you'll watch diligently in the future and stay away from people who look
like that. We don't want any harm to come to you or your young ones.
There, was that better? Sorry I was so insensitive to your needs before. I
just was misunderstanding what you were after, there.
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ariadne
Member Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 07:37 AM |
| You know, When I posted this I made a point of explaining where I was
coming from. I knew I risked the possibility of attack from most members.
Why? Because none of you can just see the subject matter for what it was.
You couldn't just leave it as parents who might have had a situation that
escalated you had to turn it into a personal attack against me. If you read
the intro you would see that I didn't much care about the incident all that
much in itself. When I addressed the guy staring me down that was in
defense of any stating that I was staring him down. I wasn't. I was only
relaying the incident because it made me wonder about other people's
experiences. I didn't realize that you people have so little to do with
your lives other than insult someone who just asked a fucking question. It
was a simple question. IF YOU HAVEN'T , FINE! OK. I WAS JUST FUCKING
CURIOUS. It just interested me. I proved a point by bringing this subject
up as well. You can't ever stick to the subject for what it is. You always
twist it around to mean something that was never intended. When you pseudo
intellectuals can see the subject matter for what it actually is that would
definitely be interesting. I don't think I really require all the insults
as I was genuinely curious and I made my intentions clear. You all chose
what you wanted out of everything I said which is the same as selective
hearing so I think you are no better than the accusations that you are
spitting in my direction. ____________________
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 07:51 AM |
Oh my goodness. Did someone's panties get into a wad?
It seems that nothing I say will please you here. That's a pity. After
all, I did try to give you what you wanted. I took your question seriously
and answered it. Other people werre trying to discuss it as well. You kept
trying to make it sound like everyone was misunderstanding you and
attacking you and well, you got pretty damned hateful with everyone who had
something to say about your predicament here. You say everyone here has
attacked and insulted you? I'm looking over this and you have been the one
attacking and insulting. It's there in black and grey.
Pseudo-intellectuals? Sounds like you have a complex. Do you perhaps think
you're a little deficient in the intelligence department? When someone
tends to go on and on about something, that's generally what they worry
about within themselves. Sounds like you also have a complex about how you
look. You have pointed out several times that you think it was the way you
look that got the redneck all bothered. Then, you went back and said it
wasn't about the way you look or dress. Make up your mind. I tried to
figure out what you wanted to discuss twice, and you were unhappy about it.
Saw an attack where there was none. I was simply stating my opinions and
sharing a story, which, you apparantly have no interest in, although you
did say you wanted to hear from other parents about their experiences. When
it became clear that wasn't what you were after, I figured you simply
wanted sympathy about your particular situation. Now, it seems I have
offended you in giving you that.
I'm beginning to believe that this is all a ploy to get your name noticed.
Congratulations, Ariadne. Everyone here knows your name now. You are no
longer a statue standig in a corner. You have gotten the attention you were
after. I bet you're just tickled to death every time someone responds to
you here. You are being noticed and responded to, which is so much more
than other lurkers get. So, could you stop the fit-throwing already? It's
getting kinda boring. Now, what part of the question that you asked and
were so curious about didn't I answer? I thought I stuck to the subject
very well. Would you like to hear another story and maybe discuss it? Or is
it still all about you?
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ariadne
Member Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 08:14 AM |
Yes , indeed you did throw in a story but you had to throw a jab at me
while doing so. I was mostly referring to people that still wanted to talk
about the rednecks in general. If you read over this thing you would have
seen that. When I say the thing about my appearance, well, people keep
saying to tone it down, all the way down, so I explained, I don't know how
much more toned down I could have gotten. As far as the pseudo intellectual
thing, one thing I have noticed by lurking here, is many times someone will
bring up something and the intent can be twisted and that person will be
prey to attacks and words become misconstrued many times. I have witnessed
this many times.
My intent initially was just to read other people's stories and
experiences. I kept getting bombarded though with others like Mono and
such wanting to jump in and start wreaking havoc with the whole redneck
story again when in the intro I think I explained myself loud and clear.
You have to admit your little sympathy bit was a little over the top. It
was quite unecessary. I was only responding to things that you and others
said before. The misconception that I was glaring down some redncek when
indeed he was doing so to me to the point where I was uncomfortable. It
wasn't really something I felt that should have been poked fun at. It was
actually disturbing. Violence does happen in this world. At the time this
took place I was watching my back for such an event. That is why I started
wondering about other parents. I don't think that is so hard to understand.
Yet I have been accused of judging people by their appearance when that was
not the case at all. I was judging my particular situation at the time. I
have stated it before , you know, none of you were there. I don't think any
of you have the right to poke fun of a situation when you don't really know
how things went. I have just been trying to explain it so everyone would
have an understanding as to what went down. My reason for doing so is
because everyone seems to think this was the classic case of redneck meets
subcultural person and glares and subcultural person glares back. It wasn't
quite that way. This guy had a crazy look in his eye. It was creepy. So I
wondered what other parents might have experienced and if they had ever
experienced anything similar. It was as simple as that. And the times I
was rude were when there were comments such as this is something they would
expect a 13 yr old to post, etc..... I took offense to that because this
happened and I was genuinely curious about other parents' experiences. ____________________
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Meranda_Jade
Fanatic Posts: 511 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 08:44 AM |
I'm sure that one thing you must have noticed about our little group is
that we tend to poke fun when someone starts taking things too personally.
Most people will laugh about it and lighten up. If someone starts jumping
up and down in a fit of indignation, that's all it takes for everyone to
jump on them, like throwing chum into shark-infested waters. If you've been
paying as much attention as you claim to have been, surely you would have
seen that.
I know you got a strange look from a creepy guy. I know it disturbed you.
You probably had good reason to be disturbed. The way you brought it up
here and your subsequent postings about it, however, have been garbled and
inconsistent. You have changed your story a few times. Probably with the
intent of clarifying your position, but that is not how it came across. So
someone threw a barb at you. Your mistake was in totally freaking out about
it. Once you did that, it became a joke to everyone. People here do like to
have their fun, you know. You're not the first person to have been the butt
of a joke here, and you won't be the last. The ones who learn to laugh at
themselves right along with everyone else are the ones who fit comfortably
in, as opposed to those who stay uptight and offended about everything.
The more you act offended and insulted, the more of a joke you will become.
You think your situation was not taken seriously. You would like for
everyone to be serious about it... the fact that there are creepy guys out
there who might be violent. Well, I'm sure people have concern for that
sort of thing, but it still came across as, "Look at me! I got the creepy
stare for the way I dress! And in front of my CHILDREN!" You want to hear
if anyone else has felt threatened? Of course everyone here has felt
threatened at some point in their lives, with or without kids. I just don't
think anyone else has any interest in talking about it at this point.
There's so much going on these days that it's kinda trivial to talk about
whether you've ever been harrassed or felt disturbed or threatened by
someone at some time in your life. Or at least, we've all gotten over it a
long time ago and we're no longer interested in getting attention for it.
I am sorry that you felt endangered by another human being. That isn't
right under any circumstances. Unfortunately, that's the world we live in
and it's what we have to cope with. People can be really shitty to one
another. Your kids will find this out on their own and many things will
scare them in their lifetimes. You can't protect them all the time. All you
can do is show them that situations can be dealt with calmly and rationally
and when you're with them, keep them safe from physical harm.
Now, lighten up already! Geez.
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ariadne
Member Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 08:00 PM |
| Lighten up? Sure I can do that alright. The joke is actually on you guys
though. This incident occurred yes but my decision to post it here? I knew
what I was doing but it wasn't to get attention. It was to see how many
morons would stray from the damn topic. I wondered how many people would
pay attention to the fact that I stated that the incident made me wonder if
other parents had experienced similar situations. I wondered how many
morons would fail to read the part where I said in my opening statements
that the incident was just what made me THINK. Also lurking around here I
noticed that the mere mention of anything subcultural gets everyone around
here ready for the attack. It doesn't matter what circumstances surround
the issue as I have just proved with this subject. Nobody was able to see
past subculture and rednecks. That is all that preyed upon your feeble
little minds. Forget about my intent that is all that mattered. So you did
what came naturally to you. You did your best to poke fun. That was nice.
All you did was serve my purpose. My little tantrums? Just an attempt to
see if you would relent with any sort of explaination. You didn't. I can
only assume that you are weak in reading comprehension or you just like to
be complete asses. Nobody could stay on topic. Then it was turned around
on me that I kept changing shit around, shit you guys kept throwing so much
shit my way, I probably got confused myself after a while. Thanks for
helping me prove my point. I knew you would act like total jack asses about
this subject matter. Afterall, it involves subculture and the term
rednecks. It is right up your alley and leaves plenty of room for you to
ream someone. I knew you would enjoy it too. It doesn't matter how
uncomfortable the situation was for me. I probably deserved it for looking
like a freak anyway. Right? Now that is some funny shit right there. How
dare I feel threatened by some damn looney redneck staring me down? The
nerve of me. You guys are right, that is pretty fucked up of me to judge
those poor rednecks like that. Hilarious! Fucking hypocrites! ____________________
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Merry_Widow
Fanatic Posts: 598 Registered: 24/8/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 09:15 PM |
Why is it that whenever something doesn't go the way someone wants it to,
they try to turn in around and say that it was some grand trap to catch
everyone for their own amusement?
People honestly tried to engage this topic, but had their responses spurned
by you, Ariadne, because you decided they weren't taking it seriously
enough. How seriously do you expect people to take a topic that you
outright claimed to be stupid and superficial?
So you just sit back and tell yourself that this whole thing turned out the
way you expected, and get on with your life. Good luck with your kids, good
luck with the guy over in Kuwait whom you don't seem very fond of, and good
luck with your hyper-intellectual, non-labeled life.
Now if you don't mind, I have a cake in the oven that needs checking.
[Edited on 9/30/2005 by Merry_Widow] ____________________
Okay, dazzle me.
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic   Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/9/2005 at 10:40 PM |
| O discordia....something good (perhaps) has come out of all this, it's
reminded me to attempt to write an actual post about Jim Goad's "White
Trash Manifesto: how rednecks, hillbillies, and white trash became
america's scapegoats". Thanks ladies (and gennelmin)!! ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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gothicmorman
Fanatic Posts: 233 Registered: 11/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/9/2005 at 12:30 AM |
That should be an interesting post for sure! If the attempt works out that
is....
Merry: So, what kind of cake? (yum >.>)
ariadne: So now that you have proved that you hate everyone on this site -
are you still going to post like Abbadon or will you leave?
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Anonymous
Posts: 116 Registered: 14/4/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/9/2005 at 07:21 AM |
1. Thanks for helping you prove your point that this was a stupid topic? No
problemo.
2. In much of your typing, thinking IS murdered. Then you cut up the body
in little pieces, bury them in the backyard, and take a giant shit on
them.
3. When everyone thinks you're an asshole, it's either everyone else or
you. Since you've decided it's everyone else in this case, we won't expect
you to stick around. Unless you're here to troll?
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EyeCandyRayce
Fanatic  Posts: 247 Registered: 19/1/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/9/2005 at 04:05 PM |
You know ariadne, I was about to come to your defense somewhat since it did
seem to me that maybe you were just curious if it had ever happened to
anyone else. It greatly seemed that when people made an effort to answer
that question once you tried to make it clear that was all you were curious
about, you still took offence to everything everyone said to you. Then you
made that last comment and I went "wow.. that really showed how immature
she is". Just because you have kids doesn't make you a grown up.
If you think everyone is such dicks even though, no matter what anyone said
you took offence, then go the fuck away. Why do people insist on causing
drama by staying someplace they don't feel wanted and picking fights with
everyone. It does seem that you were starting this fight on purpose and
then blaiming everyone else for the fight.
Now if you look in other threads where you have gotten upset at people, you
started it and then later apologized for starting it. Then you do it again
here and when nobody backs down, you say we have been doing it all along
and we are all a bunch of dicks and you were just trying to prove it. Look
at the gas price thread for instance where you blew up thinking everyone
was stupid and rude and you picked a bunch of fights. When people finally
pointed this out to you calmly, you backed down.
Now, let's look at psychology here. Most of the people on this site have
good confidence in themselves and are not the shy type who will just back
down to those who throw a bigger fit or run away from a fight. On numerous
occasions people have talked calmly to you to get you to see that you were
jumping everyone's case for nothing. Doesn't it seem logical that people
would get sick of talking you down and finally just say "fuck off".
I think you need to look at yourself before telling everyone else they are
the one with the problem.
Can you say DRAMA QUEEN! I knew you could boys and girls.
And don't bother trying to pick a fight with me simply because I gave an
outside opinion that has not been involved until this point. I won't play
into your little "make myself a victum" game.
[Edited on 9/30/05 by EyeCandyRayce] ____________________
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ariadne
Member Posts: 107 Registered: 26/9/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/9/2005 at 05:19 PM |
| This will be my last post here but before I go I just want to make one
thing clear. If you feel comfortable calling me what you like that is fine.
Whatever makes you feel better. I brought this subject up to see how far
you guys would go to rip me a new one. I got the idea after this happened
to me and figured this was the best way to find out. I was right. It
doesn't really matter. I have watched you guys rip into people whenever
they try to talk about fashion or whatever it is subcultural they wish to
discuss and you have scared many people off by doing so and many times you
were complete bastards about it. They were just starting a topic that
interested them but because it may not have interested any of you the best
choice for you all was to give them shit over it. I have been around even
when I wasn't posting. That is what I have seen. So this topic wasn't an
accident. I wanted to see if I could attempt to have a serious discussion
with you guys about something of this nature and I proved that with you
guys it isn't possible. You are too busy flinging shit instead of seeing
things as they are. Yes, I got nasty this time, because you all reacted
just as I thought you would. It was rather annoying. Anyhow, I just
realized through all of this that Shmeng is not for me after all. I can't
tolerate people who can't respect the feelings of others. In this post I
made my feelings known that this situation made me uncomfortable and this
became a standing joke. I normally have a great sense of humor but over the
past few months I must say I have built up a hatred for all of you and the
way I have seen you treat people. So sorry you're so surprised but you guys
aren't the nicest group of people when a new person comes along and I have
seen it over the past couple of years. So I got fed up. This is how I chose
to leave. With some noise. I love how you are so righteous about everything
now. You guys need to look at your site and look around you. I am outta
here. ____________________
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EyeCandyRayce
Fanatic Posts: 247 Registered: 19/1/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 30/9/2005 at 05:26 PM |
Yep.. just ignore what I just pointed out to you as an outside observer and
keep thinking how perfect and right you are. Maybe it will come true!
Not.
The thing about this site is that the people here are real friends, not
just a bunch of strangers all chatting away online with people we don't
know or have never met. This isn't about getting the most hits by
welcoming every joe smoe and his friends. We do tend to run off people who
are incapable of having a debate without being insulted or freaking out,
people who can't understand humor in serious conversations or people who
just generally can't see other people's point of view without being jerks
about it. So some people are going to be ran off. You are someone that I
have just pointed out as being someone who takes offense to what other
people say, see your own view as the only view and enjoy picking fights are
being mad at people. Obviously you won't fit in here and you should
leave.
So bye bye. Don't let the door hit you in the... oh hell.. you know the
rest.
I'm sure you will come back and check to see if anyone replied to your
little tantrum. Take your toys and go home.
[Edited on 10/1/05 by EyeCandyRayce] ____________________
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 1/10/2005 at 12:29 AM |
Q....how come everyone has a grand scheme but me?
Ariadne, I kept my big galloping mouth shut from the get go BECAUSE I saw
the potential for disaster (the "you weren't there and I was o discordia) ,
and honestly for once I just didn't want to be the one to smell blood.
Honestly, if I were to offer any personal advice (ha! me + life advice =
oxymoron), please lighten up. Drop the victim-hood, let go of the "freak
persona", and let a little sunshine in. I learned this long ago....the
world lives up to your expectations. If you think you're a freak (proud or
otherwise) the world will treat you like a freak. When I stopped thinking
of myself as a freak I realised I was just another fashionable broad with
too much makeup who could fit her index fingers through her earlobes to
scare the kid with safeteypins in his face, an actual living breathing
human being, not a human/victim people treated me as such. When I stopped
looking for glares I stopped getting them, when I quit pitching a fit over
everything and how it relates to my "uniqueness" , I stopped being picked
on. I also gave up the thought that I was unlovable and unatractive, and
was atractive to someone and loved more than I thought I would ever
deserve. The best diet I ever went on was mental. I looked at myself and
said "eh, for a fat girl, you're pretty good lookin" Not necessarily
relalating to this particular thread, but important in it's meaning. What
you think of yourself and of those around you projects on the happenstance
of your life.
It was life changing.
Now let's play to the Grand Scheme. Honestly girl, why bother? Why bother
testing assholes? As in my "life imitates life" parabal earlier, when
assholes are thought of assholes and hence TREATED like assholes, the
obvious conclusion is that they will be assholes. What a waste of a govt
grant. All you accomplished is giving a very concise overview of your
online personality, where when all agree with you (as in the daughter's
money bit) things went swimmingly, but when other opionions were voiced, or
"off topic" (which they weren't....I still stick to my guns about
spectacular devestation vs. singular tragedies being equal, and
this...well...THIS) it was almost a gauranteed hissy fit. How tragic to
play yourself so harshly. I'm sorry girl, you did it to yourself.
I would like to know who shot off your sense of humor/sarcasm so
irreparably that it couldn't be reattatched. Mine has been shot off
several times, but nothing that superglue couldn't fix. I wasn't there
when you're daughter's father was killed, but you weren't there when I sat
for a week in the hospital with my husband in bed with a tube the size of
my thumb between his ribs as he cried in pain and the weeks of tending
bedrest that followed. I didn't have a bad childhood, but I've seen the
effects of it on the life of the person who means the most to me in the
world. I wasn't there for the hurricane, but I see/feel the personal
strife the overall impact it causes in my life and those around me. You
can't see the forrest for the trees, and all that nonsense.
I don't have children. I can't afford them, I want them desperately, I
cried the other night I wanted them so badly, a family of my own. It
wouldn't change my opinion, but how would I know, I chose to wait with a
breaking heart for the time and money to do it right ( in my opinion of
"right"), so what would I know.
We weren't there (for anything) but it doesn't mean it hasn't happened to
"us", impacted "us", or been felt by "us". There is a great chasm in your
thinking that has been dug by your own hand....the "us vs them", the "were
theres" vs the "weren't theres", the "haves" and "have nots". Dont' demand
an island and burn the boats, then bemoan the poor company. I learned it
the hard way, I expect you shall too. I hope you find yourself a better
person for the life lesson. For yourself and for your children. ____________________
Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas.
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 1/10/2005 at 01:47 AM |
My only advice for ariadne, for when she comes back to read the responses,
is she's got to learn to laugh at herself and find humor there. If she
can't learn to laugh at herself, then she'll never see what everyone else
thinks is funny.
I know a few teenagers who refer to themselves as freaks, one of whom is
especially insecure about her looks, but even she knows how to laugh at
herself when it's funny.
That will be what tides her through her insecurities and will eventually
build that part of her confidence up to where she doesn't worry over it so
much.
My regular motto on laughing at myself is this:
If I do something stupid, then go ahead and laugh at me, cuz I'm probably
already laughing at myself.
The only addendum to the motto is that if I fall down on my ass and need
help getting up, please help me up while you are laughing.
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"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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Devin
Administrator  Posts: 317 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Online
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posted on 2/10/2005 at 02:08 PM |
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So Sayeth Me
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic  Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 3/10/2005 at 01:05 AM |
Wheeeeeeee.
BOOOOOM!!!
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In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King
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