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Author: Subject: Starve the trolls

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  posted on 25/8/2004 at 04:08 AM
I have broken the sites guidelines. granted. ive been called up for it. fair enough. I argue, debate and write in an agressive style, this probably will not change because it is the way i argue, debate and write. there is evidence for both of these. i will probably supply more before the time that i am accepted for/despite it. fine.
i have given no evidence of 'im a bloke so im right.' this kind of 'character analysis' was simply dumped on me because i am male and write in the agressive style that i do. if i was a girl and wrote in an agressive style like, for example, bettie_x, this would be an unjustified criticism, so why is it not just because i am a guy?
it is neither here nor there that my personality was not taken into consideration. it is the fact that my personality was decided upon. the character analysis given me was:
balls = bad, which is not even a comment on me, but on men.

 

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  posted on 25/8/2004 at 04:14 AM
moinlen drigenue. im sorry dude, i posted anohther, i shall have to keep posting now, i suppose, until my post number is equally good. 666 or something. thats a bit like 69 in some ways (people use it in user names to show how 'evil' or 'rebellious' they are, for example)
feral - heard. i will do what i can, but ive always written pretty much in a stream of consciousness and it always served me well in the past. ill reread my posts and try to clarify any overcomplex clauses etc in future though.

 

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  posted on 25/8/2004 at 09:07 AM
quote:
http://goat.cx/

the new goatse...


hahaha! thanks for the link. now i can tourture more people with that.

i might be a troll from time to time, but i will post serious things when i feel like my input can be useful. i also won't switch my screen name, unless i think it sucks...

however... about trolls in general. they aren't so bad, are they? it's a win-win situation when you think about it. the trolls are entertained with posting and seeing your reactions, while the serious members are entertained as they respond to flame baiting. and it is entertainment... why else would you respond to the bait? to excert superiority? over the internet? i don't think so. that's a large waste of time, don't you think? it's fun to have flame wars in between dead times in the forum. i do admit though, if it was all trolling, that would suck. but currently it's not... and it probably won't be as long as there are serious members around. plus, you can stop trolling by not responding to the trolls. at this, most trolls will go harass another forum.

 

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  posted on 25/8/2004 at 02:43 PM
Wormwood - there once was a young man on this site who pissed a lot of people off. He wasn't a bad person, he just had a very intensely irritating inability to sense when was the right time to be facetious and when was the wrong time. Attempts were made to show him how he was alienating people who would prefer to be his friend. His reply was that this was just the way he communicated, and he couldn't change who he was. And then turned around and planted a verbal kick right in the teeth of someone who had gone out of his way to help him. We washed our hands of him, and since that time, we are just that much less patient with those who continually offend because it is "just their way". With some dogs, it is just their way to bite, but that does not mean that we will stay in their prolonged company. In short, we will run like hell. However, this is our area, so we aren't going to be the ones doing the running.

On a happier note, I have not noticed any problem with you of late. An agressive style of writing is not necessarily a drawback, if you can show sense of when it is appropriate and when it is not. In fact, we are not particularly fond of the wishy-washy around here, so it can actually be an asset if used properly.

As for Callei's sexist comment, if you knew the trolls and twits and trash she has to sort through every day, you would realize why she really just does not care about just one more guy who isn't getting it. She made a snap judgement, knowing it was a snap judgement, and not caring because she does not care about you. Hell, if she cared about everyone's feelings who tries and fails to make their way on this site, she'd have no time left for those who were actually contributing things we value. However, if you can turn around and prove her wrong, she will be one of your strongest supporters. I can tell you that for a fact.

You have to remember, too, that one of your first posts insulted her husband's (Shade is her husband) oral hygeine, so in the light of that, why should she refrain from a sexist jab?

Don't worry, Callei doesn't hate men, or hate you for being a man, or even a strong man. Shade, Devin, Feral, Rogue, Arthegarn, etc., etc. are all strong men, and she adores them.

Perhaps we went a little far on the roasting in your case, but again, you need to realize that your kind (at least, the kind we thought you were, that you very much appeared to be, and that I am hoping that we have been mistaken about) are more numerous than the sands of the sea around here, and we have just gone through one more rallying of the troops, to break us out of our exhaustion and keep Shmeng the sort of place where we escape FROM the idiots and shmeng-flingers of the world, not escape TO. It is a very difficult, unpleasant, and never-ending chore, and eventually, instead of sharpshooting with precision, we resort to napalm. Happily, if you can survive the roast, then you'll end up with a valuable set of allies. I can personally attest for Callei, and many of the others being very loyal and supportive friends in need.

And, you don't know this, but your roasting is NOTHING compared to the bone-deep charring I endured, back in the day when I was a raw young Fundamentalist straight from the cult-halls, and I unwittingly spread my shmeng around until people were thoroughly sick of it. However, because I proved myself adaptable, and with a mind open to learn new things, and also strong enough to stand up for myself when I actually WAS right, but still be courteous, I ended up with a rather firm niche here.

Mistakes are forgivable, and snap judgements are reversable, if you show the will, the wisdom and the ability to both learn and teach in turn. But that is all up to you.

(Incedentally, Feral pissed a lot of us off back in the day, but now we love him, grumpy or no, don't we Feral? It's all about showing the other parts of your character until, hopefully, we accept you for it/despite it, as you said. Good luck!)

 

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"You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism"

 

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  posted on 25/8/2004 at 03:49 PM
I am not grumpy... I am intollerant... *winks* grumpy is an excuse, intollerant is a decision...

On another note... Shizo is right... I say we all go through it because we do... so far... you hav experienced a fraction of the ire I inspired...*grins* ask bettie.... the day she made a point I agreed with... I swear that was the 7th sign...

[Edited on 8/25/2004 by feralucce]

 

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  posted on 25/8/2004 at 11:30 PM
Wormwood, I act agressively when shown either agression or unheralded stupidity or rudeness or goddamned trolls. And at other times people mistake bluntness and my general refusal to "tippy toe" as agressive. Just as you were seen as trollish for the way YOU are. There have been girls who posted like you did at first, and they got positively BROILED (anyone care to look up some old conversations with SIN?) She was like a female abbadon, only more snotty, bitchy and rude.

Most of your original posts were general and confusing to read, and agressive, as with several of your "standings" on the issues you brought up. You haven't really been showing much of that original ...thing...that bothered most people when you joined. Good on ya, I'm glad you have it in you.

And you think you have it bad. I think Feral and I were literally at each other's throats for three years straight, he was a retard, I was a bitch, he was an idiotic pussy pacifistic bleeding heart dipshit, I was an uncaring cold blooded unthinking unfeeling asshole. We get along great now. And feral, don't think I wasn't checking my weather tap into hell to check the barometer every few seconds after that exact moment in time. You wouldn't believe Lucifer could pull off a snowflake sweater and iceskates, but he's really got the body for it.

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 12:03 AM
Bettie: you made me shoot mountain dew pitch black out my nose...

My beliefs in a nietzchean world was pacifistic and bleeding heart??? WHAT THE FUCK??? *chuckling because giggling is something only GIRLS do*

Dearie... I don't have a clue what changed*winks* I'd like to think it was my charm, but that is broken... maybe you just got bored with me...

GODDAMN... FUCK SIN...

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 01:16 AM
quote:
..by bettie_x...
i think we would call you moody eh?

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 06:58 AM
Bettie, i love you.
Woody: I wasnt being "sexist". You were engaging in what is often refered to as a "dick slapping" competition, meaning "showing how big your (figurative) dick is. Females do this too, and yes I make fun of thier dicks when they do it to. Merely acknowledging the fact of your gender/sex and that you are behaving in a stereotypical way, doesnt make me a sexist. If anything, it makes you trite.

You were stomping around making lots of noise, being alll agreesive and (go back and read this kids if you dont think i am right here) being dismissive of the females and (more) respectful to the males.

I still gotta ask, why the hell do you want to be part of this web community? What makes you want to be one of "us" when you think so badly of "us"? is it some kind of self hatred? some kinky sex thing?
Abby: Same question to you here. Why do you keep coming back for abuse? Why do you so desperastly want to be part of this community when you think we are all so stupid and crazy? Is it a goal thing, you want to grow up to be this stupid and crazy too?

To you both: over the years i have cornered a few of the trolls that we have had, and they have, to a man, admited that they posted here because we have cute chicks on the site. Now, given that you both have (and continue) to act like the trolls that admited they were here to try to impress a cute chick, given that you both exibit outcrowding at the females on the site, and given that you are both human and male, well can you see the pattern that i see?

Let me be REALLY clear. Come here to get laid! wooo! sex goooood! Just dont piss of the potential sex partners while you do it. it makes you look really dumb and un-fuckable. Dont let you social training get in the way and only let you be nice to people that arent in your "fuckable" catagory (married women or men, people over 6 foot tall, "stupid" girls, women with more than 6 breasts, whatever). And while you are trying to get laid, dont spooge on the screen or i will make fun of you.

And for those wondering about my lag in resposnse, i have been cat sitting a she-devil that kept me up all night for 11 nights in a row (full halucenations with sound and feel and everything by day 4!) and having some fabulous sex with shade. oh and some work and stuff too.

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 07:07 AM
Wow, I'm speechless. You really have defined my character down to a tee. How amazingly perceptive you are. Yes Adam and I are obsessive sex fiends. All we ever think about is having sex with girls with black eyeliner on. I systematically looked through all the pictures in the gallery, selected the females most likely to have sex with me and started debating religion, philosophy and morality with them. Currently I am sitting in front of my computer frantically masturbating to your razor sharp witted comments. Now you have descovered the real me I feel so ashamed that I shall never post on this site ever again.

BB.

Abbadon

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 07:16 AM
maybe i did, since you still failed to answer why you keep coming back for the abuse. *sigh* oh by the way, I wanted to know what you meant by "devil'd" not "advocate". no worries tho, I think i figured out the recipe.
you are sooo cute when you get all sarcastic and you panties start to bunch.

Did you somehow, in all the years you have been trolling this site, fail to realize that this site is about getting laid? really? what 3 years now and you havent noticed that this is a sexfest with sub titles?

Duuude.

 

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away.

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 07:24 AM
Really? You think I'm cute? Will you have sex with me now?

BB.

Abbadon

(Now you mention it I see the sex thing. But to tell you the God's honest truth I'd never noticed before. But that expalins why you are so unhappy about my posts. They just to intelligent and not enough about the sex. I'm sorry, I will definately try to dumb down now. I'm sorry if I have mistakenly lead anybody on in my ignorance. And please do read my previous posts before asking me why I stay. I have explained it several times already, and I have a penchant for kicking kids with ADDS.)

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 07:44 AM
so you want to stay even tho this site isnt about "teaching the stupid" or "kicking kids with ADDs" or whatever you wanted it to be about to fill some gap in your life? why? Now that you KNOW this site isnt about winning a debate, getting the last word, or getting to feel all ostrized. why NOW do you want to stay?

and Kudos for admitting that you had failed to read the FAQ, the titles page, any of the cult silliness, most of the articles, or really anything anyone here had posted.

As for having sex with you, well frankly if you failed to notice all the sex going on around you all this time, it makes me wonder if you are a) jsut as oblivious in bed or b) really single minded in bed. the latter would be, to me, a good sell point. You have youth on your side (quick recovery time) but there is that hostility thing (tends to make a person selfish in bed). You havent presented yourself as fuckable, at least on this site.


[Edited on 8/26/2004 by callei]

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 08:36 AM
Surely your deviant ways are even more reason for me to stay. I am a man of God after all.

BB.

Abbadon

(P.S. I'll give you a little longer to rethink my proposal.)

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 09:28 AM
quote:
you havent noticed that this is a sexfest with sub titles?


Please, oh please, someone put this on a friggin bumper sticker!!

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 10:45 AM
Shmeng is not a Gothic site, its a sex-fest with subtitles? think Dev would go for it?

 

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away.

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 12:22 PM
quote:

Did you somehow, in all the years you have been trolling this site, fail to realize that this site is about getting laid? really? what 3 years now and you havent noticed that this is a sexfest with sub titles?

Duuude.


that's so funny!!! not too long ago i was in the chat and i made a funny saying "this site was created to get devin laid" (not that he needs the help..but pretty girls seem to be attracted to this site....=)

 

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  posted on 26/8/2004 at 07:40 PM
Feral, MD Pitch Black is spooky as fuck. How appropriate.

And callei, I already have a few cafepress accounts with no bumperstickers on it yet, if you guys want, I'll TOTALLY put those into production. At cost.

 

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  posted on 27/8/2004 at 04:26 AM
...and here I thought they we just sit in front of the screen, debating shit that comes into our heads. Silly me. Never will I make that mistake again.

 

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missing, when it happens."



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about."



"When I get into a fight, all I think is..."KILL HIM"..."

 

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  posted on 27/8/2004 at 08:48 AM
you silly silly boy. *tisk*

 

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