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W0rmW00d
Fanatic Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/8/2004 at 04:09 PM |
OK, i dont think this one has been covered, if it has sorry, but i missed
it.
Is there such a thing as morality? People have morals, yes, and people live
by them. Fine. But do they actually mean anything?
I am of the opinion no. Here is why:
They are based on choice, no actual concrete. It is considered wrong to
kill someone, or something. But why? Yes, it infringes on their 'right' to
live, but why should they hve that right? Do they deserve it? Then you have
to measure them to a standard. There are no set in stone standards, its
dynamic to say the least, and bullshit at worst. It may be disagreeable to
you to kill something. It is to me, I simply do not want to kill things. I
have no problem with eating dead things, and if it came to it i would
willingly wring a chicken's neck in order to eat it without the slightest
moral compunction. I do not, however kill flies. Some may say that this is
hypocrisy, but I do not beleive so. I have at no point said it is wrong to
kill things and i would not be morally upset if someone else killed things.
Even if they killed me. I would not like it, but that is not a good enough
reason for it to be prohibited. I don't like having to pay for stuff
either, but that is perfectly admissable to all, not just to me. OK, a lot
of opinion there, back to the arguments. Rights are artificial, they are
based on nothing apart from what people want and like to be able to do and
feel that others should be able to do also. It is a diktat from someone
long ago which has become a standard. All artificial. Only a 'higher power'
could dictate like this, and i see none. (not see as in visually...) I am
not necessarily here to debate the existence or non-existence of a deity,
but it is, I feel, the only grounds for morals. To beleive in morals you
must beleive in a 'god' or they are baseless, and if you beleive in a god
then you must live all your life under their control, which i see very few
people doing. This hypocrisy is surely immoral under their codes? and is
irritating to me.
Personal morals are ok i suppose, as a code to live life by, but to give
them the weight of 'right and wrong' rather than just opinion is, I feel,
bogus.
So by all means live in a certain way, but is there any actual morality? or
is it all just opinion as i think. ____________________ Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
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Shade
Fanatic Posts: 289 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/8/2004 at 05:19 PM |
This one has been covered in depth, most recently it has been covered by
mono in the Virtue thread.
http://www.shmeng.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&ti
d=699#pid17433 ____________________ It is only through the lack of sex that humanity derives the need for an
all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of religion.
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W0rmW00d
Fanatic Posts: 355 Registered: 5/8/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/8/2004 at 08:08 PM |
curses. one day i will have had the time to have read everything...one
day.
anyone know anything that hasnt been covered in depth? ____________________ Eritis sicut Deus scientes bonum et malum.
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Abbadon
Fanatic Posts: 499 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 7/8/2004 at 06:21 AM |
I enjoyed your style of addressing this post, Wormwood. I feel it contains
an essentially patronising tone, which allows for better understanding of
the subject matter, by those less familiar with it. ____________________ Light is changing to shadow, and casting a shroud over all we have known. |
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