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Devin
Administrator Posts: 317 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Online
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posted on 9/6/2004 at 03:36 PM |
I forget how Freud worded it, but it's quoted somewhere on this site. Any
group of people, no matter how enlightened, will turn on itself without a
common enemy. Every group of people that thinks of itself as "Us" has to
have a "Them". If the Them becomes too vague or disappears, all of the
group's agression will be taken out on the Us.
Also, for almost all groups of people that come together and bond, there is
a Them involved in the initial bonding. This site is no exception. The
very first Them went by the nickname "billgates". He was a typical troll,
but more persistant than the usual ones we get nowdays.
When the Them gets too vague, people here do turn on each other as the
theory predicts.
So assuming this theory is true - and that there must be a Them for there
to be a community of people on this site. Who does everyone think the
Them is, and why?
Also add why we're better than Them if you can think of a reason. (For
example, our mascott can wrap his tenticles around their mascott 8 times,
and suck all it's guts out without doing too much damage to the skin). ____________________ So Sayeth Me |
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IamSquid
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/8/2004 at 03:55 PM |
Hey now! If yoo want to fight then start a forum for it (something along
the Battle of Pants lines)!
BTW, that'll grow back. Mwahahahaha! ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl |
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/8/2004 at 03:02 PM |
Damn, Shade, I love your new avatar! Intense...wow. If you keep staring
at me like that I'm going to start blushing!
[Edited on 8/4/2004 by Schizo] ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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Shade
Fanatic Posts: 289 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/8/2004 at 02:48 PM |
Schiz: You said it girl, and a lot more clearly than I had gotten around to
thinking it. You rock.
Abbadon: shut the fuck up butt-weasel. You are a them.
*Beats Abbadon into silence with a tentacle ripped from Squiddo's body* ____________________ It is only through the lack of sex that humanity derives the need for an
all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of religion.
-Me |
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/7/2004 at 06:02 PM |
bettie, snickers...welll recently having my ass fall out due to a migraine,
that does not sound too funn
____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist |
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IamSquid
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 658 Registered: 27/5/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/7/2004 at 06:02 PM |
I have pictures of a guy that happened to....
(yes I realize I'm being off topic) ____________________
i wanted to die, and then it progressed into wanting everyone else to
die so i could watch, and then me die.
-ickgirl |
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/7/2004 at 12:22 PM |
Feral, only if I'm one of those stupid fucking "empowered" women would it
be sexual harassment. In MY version of the country I live in, it's an
invite to get nice and close to someone.....and strangle them till their
butthole falls out. ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 29/7/2004 at 01:53 PM |
abbadon: hey, pig fucker... in this country, after the way she has
respoonded to you... that is sexual harrassment...
*god I am so proud that THIS is my 1000th post...*** ____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist |
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Abbadon
Fanatic Posts: 499 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 28/7/2004 at 09:01 AM |
Do you want a hug Betty? ____________________ Light is changing to shadow, and casting a shroud over all we have known. |
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bettie_x
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1570 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 27/7/2004 at 01:10 PM |
I'll stick it to you abbadon, you big, snarly hunk of manly troll meat you.
I'll even cut you a discount, a two-fer, just cuz you're so goddamned
special. ____________________ Trapped in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas. |
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BlueLinn
Fanatic Posts: 246 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 27/7/2004 at 12:45 PM |
Then, in that case, I shall take greater care with my posts so they will be
clear to everyone and not just clear to myself. Shmeng is important and I
do not want to be a cause of clutter. ____________________ When the world is over, will we wonder how it began? |
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Abbadon
Fanatic Posts: 499 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 27/7/2004 at 07:24 AM |
You tell 'em! Stick it to the man! ____________________ Light is changing to shadow, and casting a shroud over all we have known. |
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 24/7/2004 at 08:51 AM |
Actually, BlueLinn, technically, they are sentence fragments. A sentence
by definition must have a subject and a verb. Example, "I exist."
Subject, I. Verb, exist. Complete sentence.
However, I often use sentence fragments, and it's OK. While not
technically grammatically correct, they are often appropriate in casual
conversation. They add rhythm and emphasis.
In fact, I used three sentence fragments in this post so far.
It's not whether a sentence is complete or not, it's how it's used. If
your post is easily understood, and relevant to the discussion, no one
cares how precise your grammar is. Although it also helps to have a good
flow to make it readable. (Note: that last sentence was actually a
fragment.) However, if your post is obscure, or off-topic in a way that
does not add value to the forum, someone may be tempted to reply "What the
hell did that mean, and why the hell did you post it?", and may also be
tempted to add "It wasn't even grammatical, anyway."
The fact is, Shade was not bashing your post for grammatical errors
(although it was full of them, but as I said, with a good post, who cares?)
He objected to the post because it was off-topic, difficult to follow, and
interrupted the flow of a relevant and thought-provoking discussion. You
complained about people who irritate you in a forum about the sorts of
people who we find alien to our ideal Shmeng community. There are other
forums that deal with your topic.
This site is valuable to many of us. We take the time and effort needed to
maintain interesting topics of conversation, and add to them in ways that
increase their value. It is painful to us to see people come and wantonly
litter the site with comments that, if not downright unpleasant, are at
least out of place, and make the forums cluttered and confusing. When this
happens, we take the time to instruct the offenders on what they have done.
If the offender really gives a damn about the site, hopefully they will
take the instruction, learn from it, and move on in a way that benefits us
all. However, if someone does not find this site important enough to care
for like the rest of us, then they better not expect us to care for them
and their feelings. Habitual litterers can and will be evicted from this
website.
So think about it. How important is this place to you? Will you take the
time and effort to add to its value? If not, then either quietly and
respectfully watch from the sidelines, or go away. After all, if Shmeng is
not important enough to you to take a little time over, then probably any
site would be good enough for you to vent your daily problems on. Maybe
you could even make your own, so you could post whatever you felt like,
regardless of the content. Just don't be surprised if we don't appreciate
you for doing it here.
____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and the
dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 23/7/2004 at 07:59 AM |
when they approach.. tlel them to fuck off... tell tehm what you just told
us
THOUGH, I see nothing about what this has to do with shmeng... shemng is
not about conventioneering...
My them is those that come here ort anywhere and feel taht tehy can make
the community more than i t is by changing the focus... by dictating morals
and by stating that what we believe is inherently wrong... I am sick of
those people that want me to be nicer because it will make them feel good
about themselves... those people that do not know themselves and therefore
cannot accept the fact that I DO know myself...
[Edited on 7/23/2004 by feralucce] ____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist |
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BlueLinn
Fanatic Posts: 246 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 23/7/2004 at 07:51 AM |
Let us see, where to begin? Schizo is correct, where it would probably be
better to have the forums set up as the articles are, where you can just
respond to a particular comment.
Now, as far as shade went with the third eyed Martian comment,
certainly, I do have my off-topic moments, and yet, I do try to stay on
topic. I’ll admit freely that I perhaps should have been a bit more
tentative to the current topic on discussion, while the forum flew in a
spiral of what we want, what they want where we want to go what we want to
be and what pisses us off the most.
Given, that now I have a moment to look back upon my post, I probably
should have retracted it, however, I will not retract something that I have
said. If I did, it would not be for your benefit, it would be because I
decided that the sentiment towards the topic was relayed in a poor manner
that did not reflect my thoughts at that moment.
Now, I for one, liked my post and will not retract it, nor will I be
bullied. As far as the grammatical errors that you so blatantly attempt to
point out, tell me precisely what do you see?
Lets analyze this and get anal, shall we?
“the creepy guy, who can't take no for an answer, who just doesn't get that
you already have someone and keeps hounding.” (as for this sentence
should be capitalized, however it has a topic, it has a subject it is a
complete sentence, perhaps a bit of a run-on. However, because it is in
list format and refers to a previous post, however far up the line it was,
it is a complete sentence. I also know that I just reiterated the complete
sentence thing so I’ll do it again…. Complete sentence!)
The fellow in a larp who just won't leave you alone, who is at your heels
for the entire 4 day long convention. (This sentence is referring to the
previous sentence therefore, who the person is does not need to be
re-stated)
that perverse person who thinks that the game is life and their character
will seduce your true life persona and then, when you finally get sick of
it and say.. HEY DUDE!,,, is out of character man, just be calm and stop
panting, pick your jaw off the concrete. I don't want anything to do with
you in or out of character now, you creep!... They still think that they
are a "vampire" and can make you change your mind... ( o.k. there are a
couple of errors here I will admit however, they are no worse than any
others I have seen on this site. should be capitalized and the sentences should be in quotations)
AHHHHH... I swear to fucking whatever the fuck. I am incredibly sick of
being hounded at cons when all I want is to have a stress free weekend to
sell art, kick back play a couple of games and have fun! (no comment)
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Schizo
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 897 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/7/2004 at 06:00 PM |
You know, I just thought of something. Back in the day, the forums were
set up like the article comments. It made it possible to respond to a
particular comment, instead of to the forum in its entirety. It made it
easier to follow a conversation, even while a completely separate, horribly
off-topic, but tremedously interesting conversation proceeded on an
alternate branch. With today's setup, you have to refer to whatever post
you are replying to, either by the author's name, or a quote, or something
else, and any off-topic posts interrupt the flow and make it difficult to
keep it going.
I am completely ignorant of the work it would take to switch back. I'm not
even sure that it would fix the problem, although I kind of think it would.
It's just an idea, and something for the powers that be to think about. ____________________ "You can tell by the scars on my arms and the cracks in my hips and
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dents in my car and the blisters on my lips that I'm not the carefullest
of
girls." - Dresden Dolls, "Girl Anachronism" |
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Shade
Fanatic Posts: 289 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 18/7/2004 at 09:04 AM |
Us : Those of us what can stay the fuck on topic, and Blue Linn,
your "seeing third-eye psychic Martian dog" impersonations do not get you a
ticket onto this bus. Seriously folks. Think long and hard about the
complaints that have been made and include the confused 'is that what I
really meant?' moments we have all witnessed from the happy accepted
regulars. Initially the forums were considered to be a fuck-for-all who
gave a shit place by everyone where the topics flew wild and free and the
running joke was that the longest any forum had stayed on topic was the
time someone posted a forum and then the power went out at Devin's house
for a week. But in reality, there were, at that point, more people who were
wiling to read the opening post of a topic and see what the forum was all
about.
The Karma free zone is full of crap these days, the Tough Love forum,
despite an offshoot discussion thread "Bitch here..." is full of people
with no clue wanting to talk about not only the tough love they did (or in
some real trauma cases DIDN'T) get, but also the weather, their weekend,
and whatever else seems to come up. I completely missed this forum in it's
infancy because of what was at the time an unsettled feeling in the pit of
my stomach. I couldn't stomach the forums anymore. I had no idea why not, I
just couldn't face them. And them I realized what it was. You fuckers can't
hold a conversation!
That's right, it's not the spelling issues (Put your fucking hand down
Squiddo), it's not the grammar issues (I'll deal with you later Linn and
company) it's not even the rampant insinuation of silliness (We love you
Betty) it's the fucked up moments when there is an actual conversation
going on, a discussion is happening, a forum exists; and at some brain
tilting moment, Feral will say something relevant and from that statement
some little fuck me up the ass child will say something like: "I'd say my
piece as well, but it would just be repeating what others have said so now
I'd like to step up to the mic and show my tits or otherwise do something
to be distracting and attention seeking! (That right, that's you who did
that most recently GothicMormon, go fuck yourself with a microphone)
So, after that rather invective filled and metaphor padded paragraph, what
precisely is my point? My point is this. It wasn't cute when Abbadon was
doing it and it's not cute when people, new or old, do it now. If there is
no topic of discussion, there is no discussion. If there is no discussion,
there is no communication. If there is no communication, there is no
community. If there is no community, there is no Us at all. Without an Us,
we are all them except to ourselves, and under those circumstances...well
it gets icky at this point and I'm sure you can all figure it out for
yourselves. I think a lot of us already have.
Them? Fuck them ____________________ It is only through the lack of sex that humanity derives the need for an
all encompassing blind love. And in that moment of extreme horniness
with
no relief in sight, in that moment can be found the birth of
religion.
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BlueLinn
Fanatic Posts: 246 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 17/7/2004 at 10:42 AM |
:sigh: As for the starting in the middle of a sentence, I did not truly
want to reiterate the aforementioned posts, therefore, I started at what
seemed to be the middle of a sentence, but the beginning of a new Idea, by
doing this the post went from wistful and absentminded to a bit upset and
more or less, the post was a reflection upon previous events and that is
how the sentence structure, dramatics, and entire orientation of the post
was meant to be...
so there@!
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 16/7/2004 at 08:57 AM |
hormones make all your posts incomprehensible??? ____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
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BlueLinn
Fanatic Posts: 246 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 16/7/2004 at 08:40 AM |
it's just hormones, don't mind me this week. ____________________ When the world is over, will we wonder how it began? |
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