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  posted on 4/6/2004 at 06:22 AM
...i dont really know what im doing...i want to stay anonymous for my own reasons; im 13 and im not sure anyone here can take a 13 yr old seriously. i just wanted advice if anyone's willing...um..from the beginning, i just made a new friend, i dont have many friends because im shy and quiet and too goth/punk for anyone my age to like (i hang out with an older crowd). i also just found out my new friend hears voices, shes terrified of them and it makes her shake and cry, but i dont know what to do to help, she the funniest. nicest. most beautiful person and i want to help more then anything ive ever wanted. anyone have any advice?

-ella

 

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  posted on 17/7/2004 at 03:24 PM
I don't get where you see it as optimism. It seems to me to be more like realism. An optimist would say everything is good. A pessimist would say everything is bad. But a realist would say that some things are good and some things aren't, and you only spend what time you need to clean up the bad, because it's sure as hell more enjoyable to focus your free time on the good.

 

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  posted on 17/7/2004 at 10:23 AM
ferral the optimist, I never thought I'd see the day......

 

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  posted on 17/7/2004 at 10:18 AM
"the good you have"

i thought there was know good or bad...or right or wrong?

 

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  posted on 16/7/2004 at 11:52 PM
Lol This all reminds me of the shrinks that have been forced upon me with their "Oh yes.. cutting MOST DEFINATELY leads to suicide" Oh so i cant just ENJOY the bloody pain (no pun intended)without it being some form of release?Realease of sexual frustration maybe... And they said i needed medication to stop it... and here i was taking prozac for a year and STILL cutting myself and i finally stopped taking it and guess what? It was over.. I stopped. I didn't need to anymore (i found out about masturbation ^_^)what a bunch of prats... And as for your friend... I am in no way, shape or form afraid to admit that she is most likely attention whoring.

 

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  posted on 16/7/2004 at 08:56 AM
no... its all about perspective... having been in worse places... and you have too, I choose to allow myself to vieew the good that I have

 

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  posted on 16/7/2004 at 08:46 AM
well damned, we all must be swimming in it then,

 

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  posted on 14/7/2004 at 11:48 PM
it was the way the universe works... it has nothing to do with fair... when the universe shits on you... it is niether fair nor unfair... it just is

 

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  posted on 14/7/2004 at 08:19 PM
point taken farrell, my point that I was trying to make was is it fair for someone a week away from her 18th birthday to loose her last parent?
From my point of view, that is some karmic whiplash right there.

 

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  posted on 14/7/2004 at 02:21 PM
Linn: who are you to judge another person's right to decide on their life or death?

 

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  posted on 14/7/2004 at 09:07 AM
and as for the suicide thing... that is TOTALLY not cool... Why would anyone try to end their life when life is so beautiful and there is no need or reason.
My friend's mom just about a month ago committed suicide by taking enough oxycotton to kill a horse. her dad died just a few years ago as well.
Now, tell me that that is right?

 

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  posted on 14/7/2004 at 09:05 AM
the voices in my head tell me not to listen to them... :nod:... yes, just as what has already been mentioned, not to sound ... yeah, sometimes its just a cry for attention, i've had several friends like that... and then one friend who actually did hear them, she's bi-polar and a bit skitzophrenic... but then again, my mom is also a bit skitzophrenic and a bit of a psychopath, clinically prooven... yet she doesn't take meds... (though she should.

 

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  posted on 13/7/2004 at 03:08 AM
yo. my mate was put into an institute two weeks ago, hopefully she can 'get better' and yeah....thank you heeps for your help, it means heaps to me.
in like a year or something i think i might register up to this place, im gonna learn more about it and grow more myself first.
see you.

-ella

 

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  posted on 24/6/2004 at 07:27 AM
no offense... either you help or you don't ... if she wants to kill herself... either help her to get better.... or let her... In your situation... I would test her... and if she wanted to discuss with her why... then if it was valid, let her... if it was not... discuss with her why... but overall... it sounds like attention getting... those who want to die... FIND A WAY

 

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  posted on 24/6/2004 at 03:16 AM
i dont want my mate to go to an institute though
 

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  posted on 24/6/2004 at 02:37 AM
that one is simple... help her by offering to slit her wrists... if she agrees... take her to an institute... if she balks.. tell her to stop the attention whoring...

 

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  posted on 24/6/2004 at 01:38 AM
yeh..um...i wasnt doing anything for attention y'know...i really really wasnt...nyah....
i feel like a dick cos i worried about my mate so much, you were right, she was faking it, sorta...she wasnt exactly faking it so much, but it was more like, y'know when your really pissed of you'll be sort of talking to yourself in your head? well i think thats what she was doing, but she thought it was someting weird and not normal...

you might all hate me for this, but i want some more help with another friend. she keeps trying to kill herself. dont tell me shes doing it for attention, because she isnt. last week she took 37 paracetamol and just got out of hospital, the week before that she tried to hang herself, but her mum found her, and a few days later she slit open all her veins and squeezed the top of her forearm to make it bleed more. i know none of you can cure her for me or anything, and im not asking you to, but some of you have probably been in a similar situation and i just wanna know things like, should i be there for her?or do you reckon that will piss her off?should i spend heeps more time with her? should i leave her alone so she can think or something?...anything would really be of some help.
me and her have only recently been hangin out more so we're not that close, but shes a great girl. according to my brother, whos better mates with her then i am, something really really bad happened to her. a little while ago her girlfriend broke up with her, but i know thats not why she's so fucked, though it really really didnt help.
sorry for...i forget...but yeh, sorry anyways.

-ella

 

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  posted on 20/6/2004 at 11:02 AM
hey... I gotta say... a) if she hears voices... it is NOT because of depression...
b)IF she hears voices... she needs to get the chemical balance rectified
c)I really doubt that she does... the chemical balances that cause that kind of thing are EXCEEDINGLY rare before age 35... enough that I believe she is looking for attention...
d) if she claims a metaphsical reason... then she is full of shit... the craft DOES not work like that
d-2) the corallary: those that claim satanism or the necronomicon are, likewise, stunningly full of shit. 1-There was no necronicon until Lovecraft coined the term and 2-TRUE satanists would not do this. and 3-demons are fallen angels... every text says they are infintely powerful... why would 3-a) they do wha we wanted? 3-b)fuck with the mind of some little girl for fun? and 3-c) IF they wanted to screw her... why not just destroy her?

Now... I find the intro to this topic annoying cause there are some inconsistencies... If you were afraid that a 13 year old would not be listened to, why did you reveal that? It just seems an attention tactic, or a sign worthy move... now... if I am wrong in this last... tell me so... but don't go screaming into space "fuck off, you don't understand."

Wnna test your friend? ask her if she's seen any images. if she says yes... ask her if it was a man with long white blonde hair standing well over six feet tall wearin beaten and scuffed, black leather armor with a pair of rapiers at his side. If she answers yes... giver her my e-mail address and tell her she is full of shit... that is my fair outfit and she shouldna be lookin at me when I dunno about it

 

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  posted on 11/6/2004 at 12:55 AM
like Dolo said, id would give advice but it would jus be repetition. i think the only thing left is a little off topic but on the subject of stereotypes. 13, grade eight, your first year of high school, it's all new and big and yes a lot of people get into the whole popularity contest of high school life and some people actually are the stereotype images they project but mostly, as you will learn through interaction, you cannot judge a person before you really meet them and talk to them. high school can have some really mean years, let me tell you this if nothing else, some girls can be extremely mean but give every single person at least one chance and if they break you heart then you dont have to give them another but trust each person at least once before judging them. also, people do change - this year, two friends that i have had since grade nine started hating the whole rest of the group and now one is moved to another town with her mom and the other stopped associating with us. it hurts but people are just part of life, you will come up with your own way of dealing with high school but from what i have read of your posts you are one that is not swept up with the rest, try to stay that way. it's all about endurance, high school is very hard on endurance but it gets better as people get older. all the same i am very happy to be graduating next year, although who knows what post secondary could bring...

the ruthless

 

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  posted on 8/6/2004 at 09:53 PM
The good news is, chances are slim to none that theres anything metaphysical going on...I'd throw my own two cents in, but in all honesty I'd just be repeating what others have said, theres some good advice in here.

 

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