Anonymous
Posts: 116 Registered: 14/4/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/2/2004 at 09:56 AM |
not only them, go to ghf.org i believe, it's a baptist organization that
thinks god hates fags..(hence the name) THAT is a surprising site |
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 4/2/2004 at 10:23 AM |
Jeebus...it's going to get worse, mark my damn words...
I never thought it made sense for the Government and state and whatnot to
get involved with the whole marriage thing.
I mean, it's an oath between two damn people...or what have you. Oaths are
matters of honor best left to those who make them.
Meddlers should be spitted, basted and burned in hells of their own
devising. ____________________ In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King |
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arioch
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posted on 4/2/2004 at 09:23 PM |
quote: I mean, it's an oath
between two damn people...or what have you. Oaths are matters of honor best
left to those who make them.
Agreed. ____________________ That moment she was mine, mine, fair,
Perfectly pure and good: I found
A thing to do, and all her hair
In one long yellow string I wound
Three times her little throat around |
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fidesquaerens
Coward Posts: 9 Registered: 1/2/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/2/2004 at 01:04 AM |
I agree that the government should stay the hell out of marriage as a
whole, but its inevitable for now. Did anyone stop to consider why gay
people feel the need for marriage anyways? If you think about it, marriage
is a heterosexual norm. The average straight person grows up, goes to
school, gets married, has some kids, retires and dies. It irks me as to why
any homosexual would even want to try to fit into a norm like that. I mean
obviously homosexuals are fundementally different than the rest of society,
why would they want to be just like everyone else? Maybe it is just me, but
if I were a homosexual I would appreciate the fact that my fate had not
already been decided for me by the hetersoxual norm. So they feel the need
for officiality... call it a legal union. Maybe I am alone on this one, but
"marriage" isn't the be-all and end-all. ____________________ Does anybody feel this way? Does anybody feel like I do? Though half of me
is gone, the lonesome part is there. I cannot find the other half. |
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/2/2004 at 10:26 AM |
ok.. no offense, but that is an ignorant way to look at it... Implying that
it is a straight person norm, is negating their status as people... They
want a way to express thei devotion. They want to be accepted and treated
just like everyone else... that is why... becuase marriage means the same
no matter who you fuck...
Feral ____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
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fidesquaerens
Coward Posts: 9 Registered: 1/2/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 5/2/2004 at 05:52 PM |
None taken. It was not meant to negate their status as people, we are just
people. It wasn't meant to be condescending, just to bring up a new point.
It is not and should not be necessary to depend on the term marriage to
define a happy, life-long monogomous relationship. That's about it. ____________________ Does anybody feel this way? Does anybody feel like I do? Though half of
me
is gone, the lonesome part is there. I cannot find the other half. |
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Starlight
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 618 Registered: 27/9/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/2/2004 at 12:16 AM |
Some of the reasons that gay marriages are attractive to gay couples, is
that they can then become eligible for health insurance on each other's
company plans, receive life insurance benefits and pensions if one of the
partner's dies, and be allowed full rights in the eyes of the law to be
treated in all situations as the other person's spouse. These are things
that are taken for granted by a heterosexual couple, but for a gay couple,
these things would only be guaranteed if their union was made legal. For
some, yes, there is the need to simply feel as a legitimate legal couple,
and nothing more to it than that, because they are self-supporting
financially. However, for those who are dependant on the other person
financially, there are so many other aspects to the situation. ____________________ "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never
tried before." ~Mae West
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feralucce
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 1810 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/2/2004 at 12:27 AM |
while that's true... Sometimes, a term... is important...
Feral ____________________ The earth turns on a tilted axis - just doing the best it can.
Hohenheim of Light~Full Metal Alchemist |
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callei
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 759 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 6/2/2004 at 04:03 PM |
I think a big part of the gay marriage "issue" is based around how the laws
treat married ( people that have entered into a legal contract to share
goods and moneys and have registered that contract with a third party)
people differently. They are taxed diferently, treated differntly by
medical laws, by criminal laws, and by financial laws, and are provided few
social services (cheap divorce being one of them).
Since gov.t treats married people differently, those laws have to be
addressed by the people that feel that they are not given the same status.
Since that same govt claimed to work from a document that says "all men are
equal and have rights" then we have to do what we can to make all people
equal. as one group gets more power/status than another for an arbitary
reason, that must be rectified if we dont want to be liars.
also its WAYeasy and cheaper to jsut let LGBT coupes get married than
remove all the laws that treat married people as a special case. getting
the govt out of the bedroom is much more complicated than inviting them in ____________________ Real goths wear silver and crosses to keep the werewolves and vampires
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