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AloneSoul
Fanatic Posts: 522 Registered: 6/7/2002 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/7/2003 at 12:48 AM |
*can't sleep*
I feel as though when we die there are sorts of other "worlds" we can go
to. We can be stuck in limbo {Earth}, "Heaven" or "Hell." Keep in mind that
I was born and raised a christian and even though I don't follow
Christianity I still see the afterlife in those sorts of things.
I don't believe in the idea of purgatory though. Didn't the church add
purgatory to the "afterlife" list as a way of attracting more followers
since the ideal of either going to Heaven or Hell turned away numbers too
great?
All I hope is that the next life will be peaceful, filled with sleep and
comfy beds...and that you can reunited with those you’ve lost.
[Edited on 7/31/2003 by AloneSoul] ____________________ but at least you know, just how much pain there is in living |
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daria_4
Member Posts: 96 Registered: 29/7/2003 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/7/2003 at 01:02 PM |
quote: I don't believe in the
idea of purgatory though. Didn't the church add purgatory to the
"afterlife" list as a way of attracting more followers since the ideal of
either going to Heaven or Hell turned away numbers too great?
I'm not sure if/why/when they added it, but I do remember hearing something
about using the idea as a way to get more money... As in, someone you love
dies, they go to purgatory, you give more money, we (the clergy) pray them
into heaven faster than we would have otherwise. I think that was one of
those things they did back in the Dark Ages, though. It's not something
I've heard of being practiced recently.
This is all hearsay on my part, though. I am neither Catholic, a
recovering--err, former Catholic, nor a scholar of religion(s). ____________________ "I've told you before, I don't comprehend religion, although
conviction is a concept I'm beginning to get. In any case, a person
with a real religious conviction is, I propose, a religious convict,
and deserves locking up." |
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/7/2003 at 01:48 PM |
Call my ideas unpopular, but I believe that Purgatori/Purgatory is quite
similar to Reincarnation. From what my family understood it as, it is the
place where we correct mistakes and perfect ourself for Heaven. That's the
biggest idea surrounding Reincarnation according to a lot of sources.
I'm very skeptic about past life, but I do believe that we have a chance to
start over if we mess up. My mom does not believe in Reincarnation for she
thinks people will just mess up even more - I disagree for one, and if I
believe that of we completely start over good as new, how can we mess up
again and again? Once more, these are just my beliefs, but I do not see the
hurt in believing...even if we do just end up dying.
I measure my deeds on a Karmic scale...I cannot say if anyone else's Karma
is good or bad, nor can I say I am better than anyone else.
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Anya
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 656 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/7/2003 at 01:52 PM |
Bettie: I see myself agreeing with you. There's a lot of people out there
that are trying to monopolize religion and there has been since the Dark
Ages. I'm not all up for that "give me money and you go to Heaven" thing.
What does money have to do with spiritual attainment? Ah well.
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Dolorosa
Extreme Fanatic Posts: 856 Registered: 31/12/1969 Status: Offline
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posted on 31/7/2003 at 04:39 PM |
I know nothin' and I doubt anyone knows any facts of the matter anyhow, but
I have my hopes. I'm a big fan of reincarnation...when I finally kick it
for good, I'd like to start all over again...with no recollection of my
past sins or graces. Tabula Rasa.
I have a hard time believing in heaven...it sounds like a cop out to me.
But thats just me.
And a hell? Fuck...do enough bad things while your alive and you build
your own baby hell right inside of yourself, with you as the VIP.
I don't know...but there are days when I dream about starting over
completely.
All I do know is, when you get close to it...it can be really fucking
scary. ____________________ In the valley of the Goats, the Goat Fucker is King |
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