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Author: Subject: religious bigots

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  posted on 11/5/2002 at 09:04 PM
I love you Schizo! :D ....


Pissing off Comedian is Fun :D :D :D :D :lol:

 

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  posted on 12/5/2002 at 05:57 AM
Are you out to get yourself? Wait, youīll probably say yes. Cause you breathe, shit, and eat, too. Humping I donīt know. Iīve not kept up with my spying lately.

So I close my mind and follow my animal drives? Well, certainly. On occasion. As does everyone else on this website, and on this planet, and theyīll admit it if theyīre honest. And whatīs the matter with that? Iīve had a tendency in the past to neglect the animal portion of my self in favor of the mental. Itīs healthier to accept the animal, and give it a little fun now and then. You might be a whole lot happier if you did it once in a while. If youīre old enough.

Lizard brain? Last I checked I had a human brain. But of course you must have checked my brainwaves with your secret new brainwave-checking invention. So of course you must know best. Funny, though, how I still retain the ability to speak (and type) with ease. Must be some residual human brainwaves bouncing around my cranium. Thankyou for enlightening me.

Itīs bigotry, not bigotness, by the way.

Of course I rose to the bait! And you rise to my bait! And we continue to rise alternately to each otherīs bait in a sort of dance, which I am enjoying, I am afraid, more than you. Because you, my dear Comedian, are getting a leetle too emotionally involved in this fencing match to see it for what it is - a mock battle of words. But I do believe itīs not mock for you! I do believe youīre actually trying to draw blood! Keep trying! Your efforts interest me.

As for the use of words (or concepts) like "hate" and "loathe", I am almost certain (having just read over my posts to you) that I have not used either the words or the concepts. You, dear Comedian, brought those elements into the discussion, and it is, Iīm afraid, slightly ridiculous to try to palm them off on me, or that nebulous "everyone" of whom you speak. Itīs easy to accuse an everyone. Because it canīt defend itself. Only individuals can defend themselves.

Attacking all Christians is like attacking all Muslims. Some Christians have hurt you. Some Muslims have hurt this country. So you hate all Christians, just like some people in this country hate all Muslims. Itīs just as silly for you as it is for them.

THAT, Comedian, is the barb of bigotry. Instead of waiting to know the individual, they lump them into a big, preconceived package. To someone at this website, a bigot may use the term "one of those Goths", and proceed, on their negative notion of the group persona, to judge someone they know nothing about. Just because they think they know all about "those Goths."

I cannot explain my beliefs to you because you have already decided what I beleive. You will continue to cling to your preconceived notions of who I am. Just as my example bigot would cling to his erroneous notions of what its victim, as a Goth, is like.

Personally, my beliefs are too dear and sweet and beautiful to be spread out and trampled on by the willfully ignorant. Come to me politely, with a true desire to know me, and I will let you know, maybe. But I will not, in the words of the saying, cast my pearls before swine to be trampled on. You are just seeking my inner core to trample on it. So you are not going to get it.

But if you want a general explanation of how I came upon my beliefs, I will tell you. Iīve spent time studying Christianity, even practicing and being one. I was dissatisfied with much of it. Then I spent time studying Wicca, even practicing and being Wiccan. I was dissatisfied with much of that, too.

So I sat back (actually this process is one Iīve been going through for 5 years or so, and will likely continue my entire life) and took the things from my experience and studying that I found to work, to satisfy, and to be true. And I mulled them over and fit them together and tested and retested them, and came up with what I believe today. Likely I will end up studying other religions before I am done. Undoubtedly, my beliefs will change and modify before I am done. I donīt have all the information yet.

That is the difference between you and me, Comedian. I approach religion, and the whole world for that matter, with an aim to discover the worthy, the beautiful, and the true. You approach it to find the unworthy, the ugly, and the false. I must agree, the things you look for are out there. But they are not everything.

In general, what you look for you will find.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2002 at 06:10 AM
Thank you, Mara! It IS fun!

Your comment here was my first Motherīs Day present today! Unless Comedianīs last post was dated today. I forgot to check. Oh well, I read it today. But I think, actually, I read yours first, so you retain your status of giving me my first Motherīs Day present ever! Hooray!

I think Comedian is terrified that Iīm trying to bring him to a saving knowledge of Christ. When, if anything, I am trying to bring him to a saving knowledge of logic and an open mind. He really IS trembling on the brink of the abyss, isnīt he?

Repent! Repent! O illogical one, before the great and terrible judgement day!

I love life! :D :grin: :-D :D :grin: :-D :D :grin: :-D

 

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  posted on 12/5/2002 at 06:37 AM
O, like a mother fuck.
:evil: :evil: :evil:
"Some Muslims have hurt this country."
Well then... Letīs generalize it down to this: If you voted for Clinton, who supported Osama Bin Laden, who you assume made the terrorist attacks rather than just claiming responsibility for them, then you contributed to the attacks on this country by allowing the Taliban to actively obliterate the rebels that were giving them trouble back all through the 90īs.

And, well, if you canīt define your beliefs, they must not be real important. Intangible generalness doesnīt qualify in my book as anything real rather than just having your sensroy system on a kick from having something in your brain turned on by drugs or somesuch.
And, given that your beliefs are so amorphous, I guess itīs not anything you can prove or disprove, or even argue about since they lack the finer definition of something greater than a waking nightmare.
And, if your general experience guides those beliefs, <i>youīre finally fucking growing up and learning not to stick your fucking tongue in the light socket twice</i>. Jesus Godfuck, To religiously take the general experiences of your life is even stupider and less likely to expand your mind than just sitting back and smoking pot until you die of Marleyīs disease, or somesuch.


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As for looking for things.
I came looking for a sliver of intelligence, and I found nothing but whiny bitches and people who will complain about people who complain.
I came looking for people who love one another, and I found nothing but a bunch of seething people who claim not to hate while composing odes to mark the death of all they hate and despise.
I came looking for life, and what I got was a bunch of slop in the bottom of the diaper bucket like <i>you</i>.
:evil: :evil:

And I was over the abyss two years ago, Iīm fucking <i>hang gliding</i> through the abyss. And you know what I see? A bunch of terrible evil monsters with two arms, two legs, and faces of everyone I see on the street daily panhandling or bumping in to me.

And, for the wonderful joy of giving, I tell you this: THe human brain has more in common with the subconcious brain of lizards than it does with apes. Go fucking figure. They lay eggs, we shat out giant turds from our sore and swollen wombs.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2002 at 07:33 AM
Oh. God. Donīt you even know the difference between "wonīt" and "canīt"? I CAN climb a ladder to the roof and jump off, but I WONīT.

I CAN explain what I believe (not just how I got there), but I WONīT. I donīt think it will accomplish anything, and I just donīt want to.

By the way, I didnīt vote for Clinton. And donīt blame me for Bush, cause I didnīt vote for him either.

I never said my beliefs were intangible. They are very tangible. They are very tangible. I live my life by them, like I live my life by my belief in gravity. Iīve found that when I jump off things I fall. Iīve found other things, too. Some of them arenīt as obvious as gravity. But they work. Of course some of the things I believe arenīt physical, but thatīs what weīre given minds and spirits for. Some things are tangible and real to my mind or spirit that arenīt to my body. Like thought. Or friendship. For example. Obviously most people have discovered these forms of mind and spirit. There are others that Iīve found in my experience. But... guess what!...Iīm not going to tell you about them!

I tend to think these things I believe are just about as religious as the law of gravity. They are. Thatīs it. But most of humanity uses the term "religious" to label certain parts of what I see as reality. OK. Iīll use the generally understood terms. But to myself, the "religious" and the "mundane" all fit together into one, harmonious, seamless whole. I do not find myself thinking to myself "now I am entering the realms of religion". To me, it is life. Buttering my breakfast toast, dealing with my babyīs father, talking and interacting with God (which is a term used for convenience, rather like religion), they are all things I do. God is as much a part of my life and as real to me as my babyīs father. And I have as much proof of his existence. I donīt "try" to make him a person, he just is. As naturally as toast is toast.

Maybe thatīs not what you experience. Maybe thatīs not what someone else experiences. But itīs what Iīve experienced. So your attacks mean nothing to me. I laugh when you say "God doesnīt exist". Because either you arenīt talking about what Iīm talking about, or else you just havenīt looked where I looked.

Of course I canīt prove the existence of God to you, or anyone. I canīt even prove my own existence. How do you know Iīm Schizo? Maybe Iīm her evil twin who tortured her and extracted the information of her password, and came online to pretend. How would you know?

I suppose I could be wrong. Perhaps what I think exists doesnīt exist. I could even be wrong about gravity. Iīve been known to be wrong before. It really doesnīt matter. The way I run my life works. Iīm happy. I enjoy life. I have what I need (not everything I want, but who does?) And I enjoy trying to fulfill my dreams, even if I donīt get there in the end.

So what if eventually I find out in the end that my entire basis for existence is bullshit? Life was good. I had fun. I helped some other people have fun, too. I am satisfied. And open to learn the truth. Learning my mistakes is a sort of pleasure in itself. If I find out in the end about my mistake, I will probably have a good laugh at myself, and, if given a chance, use my new information to continue enjoying things.

Sure, I get pissed sometimes and write things to vent. I rather enjoy that. Sure, Iīm in the wrong sometimes. A lot of times. And sometimes I say unintelligent things or mean things or untrue things. Well, guess what! Iīm not perfect. If youīre looking for perfection, youīre sure as hell to be disappointed.

But itīs silly to throw everything out because it wasnīt what you were looking for. Things arenīt perfect, but they sure are interesting, and in general thereīs a lot valuable lying amid the imperfection.

You can find treasures, even in a dump.

Personally, I think you came here and found yourself. Thatīs the big problem that people have to face. They canīt escape themselves. Sure, I came here and found a lot of the stuff you found. But I found other things too.

Open your eyes, Comedian, and your mind. Youīll find there is light as well as darkness in the world. Intelligence and unintelligence. Love and hate. You can find both. If you look for both.

Your insults do not touch me. They sadden me, a little, to see someone of your obvious intelligence stooping to that, and seemingly believing that those insults are anything more than just gobs of random shmeng.

But they do not touch me or hurt me any more than if you said "you are a 3-eyed green alien from Mars."

Then again, maybe they are true, in a way. Because you see all of life as a bunch of slop at the bottom of the diaper bucket. So because I am a small part of your life, I must also be seen as slop.

Iīm not saying "believe what I believe". That would be stupid. I donīt say that to anyone. All I can say is, thereīs more to life than diaper slop. I know because I saw it. And tested it.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2002 at 08:12 AM
*sigh* here I go again....
Christianity, the stuff you get in the churches and cathedrals, the stuff that makes it a "religion" as seperate from a faith, is based on hate, the victem mentaliy, and fear.
The Christian god has no forgiveness and activly attacks his own people for fun.
he is suck a jerk that his own creations (the angels that cant think for themselves at all) rebelled and ran away from him.
His son aparently offed him and took over, breaking all the covenants with the people and giving them all new laws and declaring that all the old were bad and that the people that followed the old laws were NOT allowed to come play in his heaven. a chip of the old block, right?
This new god is also an elitist only wants the most groveling and pathetic. he also seems to love watching his followers die and kill each other.
This faith teaches that altho thier god made the apple, the tree and the garden then penned the first people in it, its eveīs fault for accepting the gifts that he gave them. This god is famous for a certain type of gift, the punch in the face and the demand for a thank you card sort of gift. what this means in real life today is that smart woman are seen as very bad people, forsaken by this god and tools of the other christian god, satan.
The only pretty women that are taught about are all also very bad people ergo pretty females are forsaken by this god and are, simply because they got good genes (arent these also a "gift" from god?), tools of satan.
This rule about looks and brains being bad is not true for men strangly, but strong men or thoughtful men are shunned by this god in favor of scared men and men that follow blindly. Only god is allowed to think, and apparently he thinks about new ways to make his people suffer more.
The whole religion says that it teaches one thing, but never does and in fact teaches something radically different. examples: I have been told that christians are thaught to treasure life, but i have seen that they are taught to hate thier own lives, hate the lives of others, and be very happy to kill anyone that isnt as misrable as themselves.
I have been told that christians are taught that god is love and they should try to be like him, yet in practice the religion teaches that god is hate (there are no angels of joy, but lots of angels of war and rape) and that people should go out and practice what is preached, the real question here is WHICH part of what is preached?
christianity also teaches you to be powerless in your own life in that they teach that all good comes from god and all bad from satan. so in effect you dont live your life at all, these two gods live it for you and you are a mere pawn in thier game, the chessboard that they use. somehow they also teach that this life is a gift (here is that "gift" thing again), but you should hate it because it keeps you from god, but you cant kill yourself to be closer to god since he wants you to suffer thru this chessgame here as long as possible. selfish guy huh? you are allowed to get others to kill you and then you are garenteed space in heaven since he likes people that are used to suffering and hate.
Another one that cracks me up is that thing about there being only one god. the bible says you shall have no other god above me, right? so the bible says that there are other gods and you can respect them, but not hold them closer to your heart or celebrate thier holy days first if there is overlap and 2 holy days fall on the same day. Christianity has turned this to " I am the only god and if you arent following me then you are following the other christian god satan" only here also has a specialized meaning, not only as in unique but only as in all you get. This is one of the stranger lies.
In general you dont get the same level of randomized hate from the other groups that believe in a similar god, probably because they have rules that say "dont tell people what you beleive until they ask" or " there are many ways to heaven and god speaks to all" or things like that. they actually have "sermons" about this sort of thing. they are actually taught this in religious gatherings by the leaders of the religion unlike christians that are never told this convincingly in church or else where.
I would also point out that the Christians that i know that are happy, joyous, and lacking in hate seem not to go to a church. They all seem to find god somewhere other than the bible or the church and then avoid the church and skip thru the bible for the few bits that, if taken out of context, are about loving themselves and others.
Schiz, you are an example of this. you found christianity (the actual religion) lacking and stepped away from it. you found real faith and choose to call the bigness that you feel "god". just cause you call it god doesnt make it christianity. God is just german for diety after all, ok the anglification of the german word.
This is a small part of why christians are not loved around the world. the elitist hate mongering violent thoughtless liars that they are.
It is also important to note that you can be raised christian and yet rarely or never have been to church, if your parents were raised in the faith. Religion is, after all, a lifestyle, a whole world view, a cultural basis. They, by act and deed, taught you about this god and taught you the actual core beliefs; fear self hate, hate of others, the need to suffer and the need to make others suffer. so just like all happy christians ( that i have ever met) dont go to church, lots of "real" Christians (the ones that beleive everything that the faith teaches but dont know it as a religion) dont all go to church.
anyhoo happy mothers day all

 

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  posted on 12/5/2002 at 04:13 PM
:-( aww that was your first mother`s day present ever, Dammit Schizo! If I would have known I would have brought flowers and a card :-D

 

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  posted on 13/5/2002 at 04:37 AM
It was a cool present, so there! And I did get a flower - a red rose that even had a smell! No card, but then Iīm not really a card person. Most of them are ugly and sappy. And I got a dinner of homemade Belgian waffles soaked in butter and maple syrup with fresh strawberries and whipped cream on top! Yummmmmmmm!!!!

 

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  posted on 5/7/2002 at 07:03 PM
My mom pounds me with her gnostic christianity stuff so I know a lot about that. Iīve developed selective hearing from it so I guess some good came. Really though, she expects me to pray at the dinner table and be thankful for the food, sure Iīm thankful but thats not going to drive me to pray to a god I donīt believe in. My dadīs worse, narrowminded and mean. I canīt deal with him as well so I basically avoid him. If he wants to fight about what I believe in then Iīll fight though. My parents were both brought up in catholic schools and they practice their religion freely, its in MY rights to practice mine freely. So I win the arguement each time.
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  posted on 6/7/2002 at 11:02 PM
Ok. This is my take on things. Christians (those who think they are following Jesus, but are actually following Paul) are evil. Why? Because everything Paul had to say is hateful. Women are to submit to the men who are superior, because the men, (while not eating of the tree directly) gave in to a *womanīs* suggestion to eat of the forbidden fruit. The religion is slavery to anyone who gets sucked into it, male or female (although it is worse for the women) , because there is no way to redeem yourself except through god. There is no free will to do whatīs good and right because IT IS RIGHT. Thereīs only, "god will be pissed if you donīt do what Paul says" Jesus Christ was a jew who said, " Why canīt we all just get along??" and tried to make a way for the gentiles to have the benefits of the jewish religion, without actually becoming jewish. Paul, after Jesus had died, saw this as a way of foisting his own views on the masses, and went and preached his own word amongst the people, using Jesusī name. Paul was a HATEFUL bigot. He hated everyone, gay people (I suspect he was gay) , women ( he had a SERIOUS hatred of women) , jews, and everyone else who was guilty of being human. I WILL NOT follow anyone who preaches hate and nastiness because itīs "right" in the name of a god. That is the ultimate evil in my eyes. Schizo, you rock. You get the big picture. And I agree with everything Callei says too. And Comedian, Iīve been hurt by those bastards who claim to be "on Godīs side" as well, and I agree with some of what you said. But thereīs no reason to lower yourself to their level. There are SOME people who profess to be christians who get it... and are not evil. The rest will have the pleasure of burning in their own hell.

 

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  posted on 6/7/2002 at 11:39 PM
Man how the fuck did I manage to miss this?!
Thanks for throwing my name in there for me schitz :) Youīre a peach!
Comedian, you CUNTinue to amaze me...really you do. How the hell did you become so angry...you are an absolute posterchild for institutionalization. You get SO mad SO quickly whenever ANYONE has ANYTHING contrary to what you have to say or feel. I donīt think I"ve seen you respect anyone in any single debate youīve partaken in, unless they agree with you. For cryinī out loud kid, CHILL!!!
DOWN, boy DOWN!
Comedian, if you ever feel the need to do so or want to do so, please calmly and respectfully email me with exactly why and how it is you hate anyone contrary to yourself and why you think the world is out to get you. You think ANYONE who doesnīt share your viewpoints is out to get you! I know you hate me because I donīt share your views, but hey, I would positively DELIGHT in understanding where it comes from. And Iīm not being sarcastic either, so no snatchy emails.
Religion: a man made way of being closer to "god"
Religion makes people feel good. Religion makes people angry. Religion makes people crazy. Religion enlightens. Religion clouds intelligent thought.
Religion is individual. Itīs effects on those around it is based solely on itīs followers and how they take it or interperet it. Some people take it to extremems and become forceful, hateful zealots.
Some people find it calming, peaceful, and gives them hope in hard times.
Lumping in the good with the bad makes you as bad as them...and makes you a hypocrite...nobody likes a hypocrite, darling, so maybe we are all out to get you afterall.
Schitz and everyone here has a right to their beliefs. They believe and still maintain a level of openess....proof is the fact that her, a xian, and I, a satanist, are good friends. Chums. Buddies. My best friend, an xian, I, a satanist. Weīve been friends for over 12 years.
You hate her because she disagrees with you and you canīt force her to your views. Key word FORCE. She dislikes you because youīre rude, tempermental, disrespectful, unreasonable, prone to childish tantrums that rival the most terrible of the terrible twos, and have no interest in anything other than what comes out of your keyboard.
Iīve said it before, thereīs a difference between debating and being a plain out asshole.
A debate leaves BOTH parties with something to mull over. Being an asshole leaves nothing but a bad bad smell.


Back to religion:
You canīt prove the non existence of something. You can only prove anything with evidence, not lack of evidence. Theyīve been unable to scientifically come up with hard rock evidence that god exists. Hence, I"ll stick to my "no god" theory until I die...then Iīll find out. Then we ALL will. Until then only debate will bring us different angles in which we view the world. It doesnīt hurt anyone.
Everyone here knows my spiritual standpoint, so Iīm not going to go into it.
Iīm done.....*WHEW*

 

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  posted on 6/7/2002 at 11:57 PM
"Being an asshole leaves nothing but a bad smell" *falls over laughing* bettie, thatīs great... can I use that? One of the best lines Iīve ever heard, and soooo true!

 

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  posted on 7/7/2002 at 07:40 AM
I agree! Excellent line, Bettie!

And thanks, Meranda, I like being told I rock!

 

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  posted on 7/7/2002 at 12:25 PM
You do, Schizo, despite our past differences, and I applaud your maturity in responding to these attacks. You have exemplified what I believe to be the Christian (not Paulist) ideal, and you have turned more cheeks than a square dance at a nudist colony.

 

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  posted on 7/7/2002 at 09:37 PM
yes, you may use that as often as you wish :)
Iīm a sharing type of gal, what can I say.
I feel much better now, I was SOOO mad I missed that and you had to do it all by your self (tho I commend your usual thought out arguments and refusal to seek his level...AS ALWAYS).
I mean hell, a religion debate, was I in a fucking COMA or something? Man, I miss some of the best ones sometimes.....*pout*
I havenīt seen a freakout like that since the drug debate *snicker*
Man, thought he ībout blew a hemmoroid over that one.....jeezus.

 

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  posted on 8/7/2002 at 12:59 AM
You know...this whole series of discussions rants and rebuttals would make the most awesome stage play...I swear, itīs entertaining as hell...er...heck, or oblivion or whatever.
Anywho...I still stand where I did previously. God or no...faith can be an extremely powerful fucking force...weither it be good or bad.
Other than that...shit, I donīt know...but Iīm still looking for my own answers, I donīt have the brain-power to figure out anyone elseīs really.

 

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  posted on 8/7/2002 at 03:45 AM
Poor Bettie! It was a blast! Sorry you missed out on it!

I remember laughing my head off the whole time - I felt giddy like a little kid! Iīm afraid it all went to my head. Of course, I was baiting him most of the time... so easy to do!

Donīt worry though - seems to me like there will be plenty more Comedian-grilling sessions. Somehow I feel our young friend hasnīt had enough of us yet - and Iīll be sure to alert you to any activity that you may miss!

 

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  posted on 8/7/2002 at 04:12 AM
::Cheers for Schizo::

Iīm commenting rather late on this whole discussion, but I felt the urge to submit my two pence worth.
Religion wise Iīm Pagan, I was raised by a Christian (my mother) and an atheist (father). I guess Iīm one of the 2% of the population that chose a different religious path to the one I was brought up believing in.
I think that it doesnīt matter what religion you are as long your actions are considerate and thoughtful towards others. If youīre a Christian who preaches hate and violence and that everyone will go to hell, then I guess youīll be seeing them there because if there is a God then I doubt that heīd want you in his heaven. Likewise if youīre a Pagan and you live your life without harming others then youīll benefit at the end.
Personally I agree with the īBig Somethingī idea! I guess that although I can relate more to the Wiccan religion than any other that Iīve read about, that doesnīt mean that I follow a different God. I read an analogy somewhere online which described God, or the Big Something, as a mulit-facted diamond. Every different religion represents one face of the diamond and together they make up the whole thing.
I think that if we must judge people then it should be on how they act, not what name they choose to acknowledge the Big Something by. Schizo belives in God, I believe in the Goddess and Bettie X believes in neither, the point is that we are all decent people and *that* should be what matters.

 

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  posted on 8/7/2002 at 07:29 PM
exactamundo!
Bing bing you get a gold star!

 

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  posted on 8/7/2002 at 07:43 PM
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