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Posted by
callei on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 09:06 AM PST
There is no nice way to say this, and that pisses me off. Some of you are unwelcome here. This is a vibey and often squishy place, and some of you are walking shmeng. If you don't know what those words mean, if you haven't read the glossary, the rules and the suggestions, if you unaware of who the editors and moderators are, then you don't belong here.
We came here to bitch about you, to have the soul cleaning of letting that shmeng go with people who can help us laugh it off. And you are laughing with us, at yourselves. It is hard to get clean in a mud bath. You are pissing in our Wheaties. Let me really clear here: this site is about the shit that makes life yucky and unfun. You (and most of you know who you are) are that same shit in person shape.
We have never had to 'ban' anyone, or tell anyone to never come back. We have never had to email people privately to tell that they are being jerks and fools and that they need to leave. (I have sometimes done this, but only as an individual, not 'the Shmeng Membership' as a united entity). The unwanted and unwelcome used to just leave after a week or so.
But now, we are getting so many unwelcome everyday that you, the unwelcome, are starting to support each other. You make it an 'us against them' game, a very shmengy game. It's not 'us against them'. You are not the 'us' here. You are the 'them'. And we want you to go away. This is not your playground, these are not your toys, and your mother is calling you.
We are a very loving group usually. We love to have new members and fawn all over them. If we haven't fawned on you, what does that tell you? We respond to the posts of the people that we care about with kindness, thought, and hopefully good debate skills. If we are not responding to you, what does that tell you? Do we defend your posts? Do we defend your right to speak? Do we delete mean posts on your pic? Do we answer you when you message us? Do we go out of our way to message you? Have we done ANYTHING to make you feel welcome and loved? If not maybe you should examine why you come here and why you stay.
Is it because you like a good fight? Is it because you get to bash someone else's ideas? Is it because you think you will meet a 'gothbabe'? In short are you here to make shmeng or are you here to get away from it. If you are here to be a jerk, to make waves, or to get laid, go somewhere else. There are oodles of places that you can go; we can even give you suggestions. But go, and go now.
This does NOT mean everyone. Age is not a factor, sex is not a factor, just brain matter. If you are in doubt at all, wondering if you are a shmeng bomb or not, email or message me or ick. We will tell you. Its better to know that you are loved than to wonder if you are hated, and we would love to get to know you better.
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Re: ATTENTION
by Shade (Shade@Gothcult.com)
on Feb 28, 2002 - 09:49 AM
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Okie, this is definately long enough to posted as it's own article, but I'm posting it here because I think the initial offering should come from the pantheon and not a normal member, and this is a good way to prove my point about it already being said. Confused? Reaaad on it will probably only get worse :)
Have you ever gotten the feeling that something was getting out of hand? Like you'd gotten onto what you thought was a roller coaster but it was actually a runaway semi? How about that good old feeling like you're off balance and any second you're going to trip and fall to you doom, or at the very least some serious road rash. Perhaps it's time for a wake up call. Things are getting out of hand here in our merry world of Shmeng and we're all off balance. What happens when you take love for granted? Generally, in less one is truly lucky, that love is gone like the first morning dew. Pfft! In this case we are all quite lucky, the world of Shmeng which we all so love and which loves us back is being patient, but that patience is wearing thin. I haven't posted much in the past, but I've read so much of what has been posted that I feel I know the regulars by their words. Every time Betty mentions the word panties I get an evil grin on my face because I just know she's going to bash something that I too hate. Every time Arthegarn's name appears I put down my drink because I know I'll need all my faculties for what he's about to say, and here's something that's important, I want to know what it is. I love to see Ick thrash someone soundly and then hug the person on whose wheaties they pissed. I'm biased as far as Callei goes, but I read her posts as well because they are interesting, not just out of duty. I could go on and on, but the point of this is not a love-in, quite the opposite in fact.
Devin, our fearless leader who I have seen calm the savage storm more than once has resorted to fisticuffs like a common Mafia brat, it's been said before, but for all who were busy thinking up their next retort and missed it, It is his site, His labour of love, and his cross to bear in this case. Perhaps we could stop sitting on it for a few minutes and go back to slipping our skateboards under the heavy end? In the last few days I've watched a few (more) malcontents throw their shmeng at our walls and I fully expected to see it slide to the floor where it would get washed away with the rest of the shmeng that we all bring to this common ground. As I understand it, we're here because A) we followed an interesting link in a search engine and found the family we always knew we'd been separated from a birth/we were brought here by a friend who knew we were a kindred spirit. B) We all have Shmeng in our lives and it is a wonderful thing to be able to share the burden. We laugh. We cry. We fuck. We don't, it's all about us. and C) We're addicted. I've seen half of you on at 4AM my time, I know that means it still late wherever you are (With a few exception). And finally we're here because Devin, yes, I will keep harping on this fact, Devin has set up a beautiful island paradise in a world which ridicules us ("It's not halloween for x days still"), Hates us ("Fuckin' satan-worshipping {No Offence}, Columbine shooting, chicken raping FREAKS!"), persecutes us (Ask for a story any story, we all got them, if I referenced half the stories specifically about persecution based on outward appearance...back to that in a bit), arrests us, beats us down, and rapes us (either metaphorically or literally) because of who we are. We're here to say "Fuck 'em!" We are the most bizarre version of a self-help group therapy orgy I have never hoped to leave. Gotta problem? Pull up a chair and if we can't fuck it, fix it, or make it funny enough to laugh at we'll at the very least let you know you're not alone. Maybe I should start talking in the past tense?
An entire paragraph ago I said I expected the shmeng to run down the walls and be washed away, just like usual.
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I thought...
by Arthegarn on Feb 28, 2002 - 11:13 AM
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Re: ATTENTION
by Phalkon13 (phalkon13@godisdead.com) on Feb 28, 2002 - 07:24 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.geocities.com/phalkon13 | To this, I have only three things to say.
A) (and I never thought I would say this, but) Amen.
B) Does anyone want some chocolate pudding? I just made a batch.
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C) We're all not really goth ("I'm not goth!"), just Devin fans/worshippers/oglers.
I agree, we should drop it, leave it, and get on to new stuff, like the happier note of bettie-x's wedding!!! (we still all wanna see pics, I just can't imagine you in white, unless it's flowing!)
Um-Kay, I've said my peace. Time to go read Measure For Measure [W. Shakespeare].
(acting class is fun!)
Blessed be, and merry part all. ;) |
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Re: ATTENTION
by callei (plyn@plynlymon.com) on Feb 28, 2002 - 11:56 AM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.plynlymon.com | THe dogma lives! that is number one, five, and six of the 16 strong suggestions as well as the book of callei (also tranlated by anais nin, and other sexy smart chix).
"A good woman is a wondrous creature, cleaving to the right and to the good under all change: lovely in youthful comeliness, lovely all her life long in comeliness of heart."
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Re: ATTENTION
by ReOn on Feb 28, 2002 - 10:44 AM
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OK....lets see where to start?
Firstly i am not one of them "commoners you speak of, but i agree strongly with you.
This is "our" site and these "people" are slobbering all over it.
it's like asking a 5 year-old to keep away, however many time's you smack it and tell it to stay away it doesn't.
So if you are one of these "commoners" heres a news flash "you'r no better than the shit beneath you'r feet"
With that said i'm done.
P.S:boy am i glad these people can't trak me down in anyway.
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Re: ATTENTION
by ReOn on Mar 02, 2002 - 03:57 AM
(User info | Send a Message) | | I'mthe untrackable goth hacker on the loose in cyber-space. |
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Re: ATTENTION
by Anonymous-Coward on Mar 02, 2002 - 11:45 AM | | I'm sure I could find someone at British Telecom Openworld who'd be willing to give me your billing address and phone number for a small sum. Their service map narrows down your location quite a bit, it wouldn't take very much longer to narrow it down all the way. |
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Not about me?
by Arthegarn on Feb 28, 2002 - 12:21 PM
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Every time I read these things I fear you are talking about me.
It might surprise you, but I really do. I have this big inferiority complex that makes me so shy... I was the kind of kid who was beaten by the other kids, including those who I thought were my friends, and whenever I make new friends I fear they are actually laughing at me in my back. (Well, that was so until I became a Goth, actually, in Spain goths were not generally known at all until last year, so only very special people were goths). Paranoia? Well, yes, but the first time Callei said she liked my posts in general, I feared she was being sarcastic.
My point with this is that, actually, I don't understand what this site is here for. It might surprise you but I still don't know the meaning of the words "shmeng", "ick", "vibey", "squishy"... I never knew what was to be pissed off until I joined in here. It was the page the Goth Test was in, and I didn't quite understand anything until I tried to be Schizo's champion as I felt identified with her position as "resident christian". And then I started giving my opinion on other posts, and actually had a quarrel with Callei about something I don't remember anymore but which was meaningless, and eventually found out that I was considered a regular and a member of the Pantheon when actually I always thought of myself as a little intruder!
And you know why? Because I don't have much shmeng in my life.
I am quite happy, and although I don't have all I want (I never have enough sex, for instance, hehehe, and my love life usuually stinks... perhaps' I'll whyne about it later) I know I am extremely lucky with my family, friends and books. I have too many things to give thanks for as to get angry for those I don't have (except sex, THAT gets me pissy). And I am such an idiotic, forgiving person, that when someone screws me up (I never knew what was that until I joined this place, neither) I just forgive and forget. And most of you it's like you have more intense lifes or whatever, like you had more experiences, more to tell. Things happen to you that would never happen to me! I am such a square! I mean, so damned conventional! OK, maybe I am the first person who has decided to be conventional after a lot of thinking and that makes me special myself, but I look at most regulars and their "alternative" lifestyles and feel a like an intruder. I will not point out the Elders but Dolorosa for instance, who joined after me, that guy rocks! The Children of Anemone, that would never have crossed my mind! A navy goth! THIS guy has so much to tell!
I mean, I don't know if the objective of this place is to let off steam or what, but actually it's not that for me. It's a place where I find lots of interesting, highly intelligent (and many times even wise) people with whom I like to argue and who broaden my views. OK people complain here, that's what it's for, but as I almost never do (they had to beat the hell out of me until I decided to complain) sometimes I feel like I don't exactly fit in here. I know, I know, that's my paranoia, but it's also a fact.
And so I have reciently found that I was not an intruder anymore, and had to come to terms with it. But I don't understand why am I not, and who are you talking to when you talk about unwelcomed people. There are people who have extremely disinformed opinions, but I have seen no bigger jerk or fool than myself, and actually almost never been offended by anything posted here (only once at the very beginning and I was wrong).
And now the mea culpa. I am also here because I love a good fight and here I get them. And I love bashing someone else's ideas, although I obviously respect their right to have them (if they want to be wrong...) And, to be sincere, I also wanted to meet gothbabes and see if I could get laid (never enough, remember?). But not the "fancy a fuck" thing, I am too much of a person for that,
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Re: Not about me?
by ickgirl on Feb 28, 2002 - 12:42 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.envy.nu/ickgirl | arthegarn,
i'm not certain that i could right now point to any one person who is a member and ask that person to go. there isn't a list i could write of people i want to leave; i guess more some traits i'd like to see abolished - the superficial one being about the pictures - but it's more than that.
when i wrote my nasty telling people to get lost, i was just so mad that people pushed devin into getting pissed off. when it comes to stuff like this, i tend to let myself get pissed off for fun, and i'm not sincerely all that mad or upset (generally speaking).
i think the elements of yourself you expressed are shared by may people here. the difference between yourself and some of the folks who have just been downright terrible, is that it's quite obvious that you are hmm i dont know if i have a word for it - REAL perhaps? you can discuss things, argue, say things i despise, talk about god...and i still totally respect you.
this site isn't about us all getting along and loving one anoter, peace happiness, blah blah blah. but it shouldn't be a whiny fight session with sidelines of tacky pick up lines and desperation, with as much intelligence and testosterone as a really bad chat room.
arguing is fine, debating is fine. personally attacking is shmeng. creating shmeng is a no-no.
(for simplicity, think of shmeng as really bad feelings, bad vibe, ickyness, meanness, bad bad stuff)
i'm not sure where i'm going with this...
but basically, arthegarn, if you like it here, please, stay with my invitation :) |
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Re: Not about me?
by ReOn on Mar 02, 2002 - 04:01 AM
(User info | Send a Message) | | I want a invitation to! he he not that i need one. |
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Re: Not about me?
by Shade (Shade@Gothcult.com) on Feb 28, 2002 - 01:16 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.hotelshade.com | Um, This is so not my place, but in the hope that everyone reads Callei's feature and then resultant posts, I'll throw these in. Arthegarn et al. The Glossary is where you can learn about all the terms some of us throw around, it's been here forever, in my browser it's the eighth item down in the Brain Candy box which is on the top on the left hand side. Right above that is the F.A.Q. or Frequently asked questions, the first link on the faq page "website" (i'm not putting in a link, I think that would be overkill) it covers some of the basics I drew on when I was forming an opinion of the site.
Special extra humongous note here, I'm not, read that again absolutely not saying anyone who hasn't should have seen it, the link I mean, I had the world tour given by Callei herself, so I had a leg up. And I'm prone to scan every inch of a page I like in case I want to steal the html code or a layout idea, I'm just like that. I know alot of people have at one time or another asked "What's this mean?" or "yeah, why is this site here?" hopefully this will make it a bit easier.
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Re: Not about me?
by callei (plyn@plynlymon.com) on Feb 28, 2002 - 01:41 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.plynlymon.com | You and i had a rocky start, but you had the courage to face me on every point, correct my mistakes, open up new areas of thought, and have respect for me as a person through all of it. I can only hope that i was a gracious as you. ( i know i wasnt, and again I am sorry)
I find it funny to think of you as shy. I really do! Politics, Law, walking into a crowd of bullies and defending the weaker person, debating in a non-native language, and never capitualting to anyone else here.
I would miss you if you left and i would email you (i have kept all those emails that we sent back and forth) and ask you silly questions.
I with you on the amount of shmeng in my life. I am with a man that i love very much, my family life is busy and chaotic, but fulfilling, my work is interesting if a bit dry at times, and i am content with my life. I also love the debate and arguement here, I love to see that workings of other minds and to see how others see the world. Im not here to meet gothbabes. The hottest one that i have ever seen is sitting next to me sharing my nachos right now, and i am so caught up in him that i have no time left over to wonder about others.
as for fitting in, we are not a group, we are a bunch of individuals that get together on some points and disagree on others. You are an individual that has opinions and likes to share them.
anyhoo... you can rant at me about Christianity anytime, or the lack of sex in your life. |
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Re: Not about me?
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com) on Feb 28, 2002 - 08:58 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://bettie_x.tripod.com/strangeasangels/ | I agree, and yes, some people here have had rather eventfull lives...FAR more interesting than mine. I am the most uncool person I know, I love my parents, I love my sister's (though me and the older one go back and forth, good thing she's all the way in california), I'm now married and like c, I am far too caught up in the love of my life to even bother with others. I love a good debate too, I love a good argument (and yes, there are such things) and I love hearing about other people's ways of thinking (whethere I agree or like or dislike or disagree).
This is a messageboard, a place to share good and bad experiences and not a place for shit disturbers and "trolls" and buggering. It's childish, ridiculous, and I have better things to do with my time than weed through garbage to find a treasure. There are far easier places to find treasures without the trash. This was/is one of those places, it's just becoming a bit cluttered, and hopefully some who are litterbugs will finally discover than and take out their own trash. |
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Re: Not about me?
by Phalkon13 (phalkon13@godisdead.com) on Feb 28, 2002 - 08:56 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.geocities.com/phalkon13 | | I have read some of the replies and comments you have posted, and I don't see the shyness either. You have an intelligence (one of many here, thankfully) that keeps me coming back here, reading and re-reading as much as I can. I am new here, and I feel more like an outsider than most anyone else here, but I keep coming back either to put my thoughts up and gauge reactions/ideas/minds, get a different perspective on things, or just look around being nosey/interested/and enlightened on things I would have never even imagined (gdlike can back me up that I am too naive for my own good). Also, I can totally understand the whole "searching for minds" that you do, because it's what keeps me single all the time. Problem is, when I meet someone that I actually find attractive mentally AND physically, they are one of three things: A) nuts B) not attracted to me at all or C) I always screw it up, being too damned nervous. k, I'm done now. ;) |
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Re: Not about me?
by ill_Behaviour (-) on Mar 03, 2002 - 06:19 PM
(User info | Send a Message) | | I have ever only posted a few times, although i have been visiting this site for awhile, I normally just visit read (lurk) other peoples posts and either agree or disagree and leave it at that, I also dont know if im one of these people who should leave, but i share Arthegarn's paranoia and found this site for pretty much the same reasons. I dont even really know why Iam replying to this post apart from the fact that, like the few replys Ive done before, i felt compelled to reply to something i strongly agree with or feel affiliated with. Generally i dont feel valid and therefore i remove myself from situations that leave me feeling unvalidated. |
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It's Curtain Call for me folks
by Rae (darkness_embraced1@yahoo.com)
on Feb 28, 2002 - 01:18 PM
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I am going to be the first to say farewell to Shmeng.
It’s been a thought I have been pondering on for a few days. After reading some of the feedback, I have come to realize that Shmeng has no place for me. I am too temperamental and hyper when it comes to others slaughtering the underdog, and unfortunately, I don’t know any other way to defend them other than the way I did. I apologize for my inability to practice passivism. This, is obviously unacceptable terms to many of you here.
I am not angry at anyone here for what they said, I just think I am better suited to hang on the streets of D.C. and converse with those who have the same city blood running through their veins as me. Or, I’ll just become withdrawn within the confines of my home. That would probably be the safer bet. In any event, thanks for making a hard decision for me so much easier.
When I joined this board, I did it to be closer to people I love. Devin and Mel are like the family I have always wanted, and I have adopted them as such. It was my way of being with them. So, in essence, I suppose I signed up for all the wrong reasons from the word go.
It was a wonderful place to be for awhile and I had the opportunity to meet a lot of terrific people, I will miss you. There are just too many here anymore that I can no longer stand to be in the presence of, some of the same people that are being defended by some of you. You obviously made your choice of who’s company is much more preferred here. That is fine, no ill will towards you for your decisions, but I can’t listen to it anymore, it’s literally causing balls of knots in my stomach to the point of nausea. I am not going to try to point out nothing at this point, it’s senseless. I just think it’s time for me to fly, so that’s at least one down, and I don’t know how many more you have to go. So, if nothing else, maybe my departure will make a brighter day for some of you, and I have at least done something right. I am not going to view it on a sour note, but as a positive move, so Farewell and best wishes to you all.
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Re: It's Curtain Call for me folks
by callei (plyn@plynlymon.com) on Feb 28, 2002 - 01:52 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.plynlymon.com | I dont know if you will read this, but I want to say it anyway in public.
If I am the cause of you leaving, I would rather be the one to leave than you. Im sure shmeng can live without me, but you are important here. You are loved here, not that im not, but....
the point is that in MY opinion, as one of many, EVERYONE that pushed you out is on the list of people that need to go. If that means me, so be it. |
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That's it!
by ickgirl on Feb 28, 2002 - 02:16 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.envy.nu/ickgirl | NOBODY GOES!
if either of you try to go i'll hunt you both down
don't make me do it - it won't be pretty
rae - you said i'm continually shocking you, hehe...wanna try me? |
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Re: It's Curtain Call for me folks
by Arthegarn on Feb 28, 2002 - 02:52 PM
(User info | Send a Message) | | I like you too, Rae. I do not think at all that this is not your place. If it's someone's it's yours. |
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Re: It's Curtain Call for me folks
by Rae (darkness_embraced1@yahoo.com) on Feb 28, 2002 - 05:44 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://darknessembraced.vibechild.com | To the ones who have posted to my farewell, Thank You, you gave me that warm fuzzy feeling inside. Really, you did.
I lack prestige with putting my emotions into literary expression. It’s just been something I have always found challenging. Unless of course, they are filled with colorful metaphors as I have demonstrated here time and time again. I think I may have misled some of you with my choice of words in what I was trying to say in my “curtain call” post.
It’s more about me, and less of anyone else here. As I had said, I was thinking about abandoning ship for a few days. Callei, I never thought you was directly speaking to me when you posted this article, but to me, it was like divine intervention in my “should I stay or should I go?” dilemma.
As of late, I don’t know what has gotten into me. I don’t sleep, I can’t eat, and I constantly feel like someone is really standing in front of me sucker punching me as hard as they can. I have terrible nightmares and nasty thoughts of doing terrible things to people. For christ’s sake, I was sitting on my couch last night petting my ever so faithful loving cat, and all of sudden I had this urge, along with a vision, of ripping the fur from her bones. I caught myself and shook myself out of it and put my cat in the other room, then I sat and bawled and asked myself what the hell is wrong with me? I go to work, I look at some of the pompous asses I work with, and I just see me putting my fist straight into their chests cavities and grabbing their beating hearts and devouring it. These are thoughts that as of late are giving me wayyyy to much pleasure.
No one needs to suffer the backdraft of my emotional state at the present moment even if I feel they are deserving of it, so I think it’s just best for me to withdraw from the social scene for awhile until I can gain some control over these awful emotions. Maybe relax with some favorite black and white movies, or maybe I’ll pick up those Perl and CGI scripting books I bought to just collect dust, or play around in photoshop, those always seem to calm my inner savage beast. Maybe I’ll go to the JFK Center and enjoy a little theatre or maybe a concerto.
What it is that is wrong with me, I can’t really put a finger on it. I always feel like I have to be on attack mode at all times, and that is just not good. If someone is to get under my skin right now, I am just not in a nice mode to deal with them. So, maybe I shouldn’t say farewell to all of you, but rather a sort of, “I am going on vacation, see you when I return to normal” kind of message. I care enough to say that none of you deserve my shit at the moment, and this is why I primarily decided to leave for awhile. That’s all. :o) Now that you all know how much of a tormented fruitcake Rae really is, I am sure you will appreciate my decision to disappear. :o) It's truly nothing personal with the MAJORITY here. When I can sort through this and get a handle on things, I'll come back. I just felt the need to eliminate some of the aggitations in my world, and this is one of the smaller ones I felt could go first, for awhile..anyways. But hey, I am always floating around on messenger if any of you would like to yap. Hope you all understand where I am coming from with this now. Best wishes. |
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Re: It's Curtain Call for me folks
by Kira (starchyld9@aol.com) on Mar 01, 2002 - 09:38 AM
(User info | Send a Message) | Rae...I don't know if you'll read this but I hope you will.
Ok..it's going to sound really weird, but are you taking birth control?
I went through the same situation you are in about two years ago. I didn't feel like eating, sleeping, talking to anyone, going to work, dealing with school, etc. I constantly felt like I had a knot in my stomach, and the littlest things would set me off either into a bitchy rage or a sobbing fit. I honestly thought I was losing my mind. I would dream of walking down the street and blowing up people who annoyed me, and other things like you described. I was a wreck.
Then I found out that it was from the birth control pills I was taking. They never told me when I went on them, but severe depression can be a side effect. And I was fine on them for about a year before it developed. Their solution to it was to prescribe zoloft. (Gotta pad the wallets of the drug companies, after all.) My solution was to stop taking the BC pills for awhile, and then a few months later went on a lower dose pill. Sure 'nuff, within 2 weeks I was feeling completely better, and I've been ok ever since (normal freak out sessions aside). Anything that messes with your hormones can cause you to feel weird like that. Even the weather. You're not a fruitcake!
I dunno, maybe this won't help at all but I thought I should post it just in case.
Hope you feel better. It's hell feeling like that.
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Re: It's Curtain Call for me folks
by Rae (darkness_embraced1@yahoo.com) on Mar 09, 2002 - 12:31 AM
(User info | Send a Message) http://darknessembraced.vibechild.com | | yeah, I have been having some hormonal problems that I think has been contributing to my irritablilty. I don't take birth control, they made me sick as can be. But alot of it was lack of sleep and diet. I have had a terrible cases of insomnia off and on all my life, but this time it has really been kicking my can. But, Callei has helped through quite a bit of it. She cleared quite a bit of it up for me. hehe, just to think, it was a all night therapy session and she didn't charge me a dime. *thanks Callei* and thanks kira for your advice and attempt to help me out. :) |
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Re: It's Curtain Call for me folks
by Schizo on Mar 03, 2002 - 07:37 PM
(User info | Send a Message) | Rae, I think I know what you mean.
We will all (the un-shmengy ones of us) miss you terribly, don't doubt that! I must say I never once thought of you as a problem here.
I've kind of been out of the scene recently, since I lost my computer, so I haven't really been experiencing the bad vibes that have been going around. But I know how it feels when you feel that all that happens on this website is attack and counterattack. I went through that myself when I went through my "defend Christianity" phase in this website. At first, I was all taken up in the fire of the debate, then it started to get hard to not take the controversy personally. When all the misunderstanding finally got cleared away, and differences were accepted, and I became aware that my friends were still my friends, things got better, but for a while there it was like living in a video game where you have to shoot all you see. And I can see how easily that can leak into your non-cyber life.
So certainly, if you feel you need a break to preserve your sanity, go with my blessing. But please don't stay away forever! There's people here who will miss you, and I'm sure the powers that be (Devin and his associates in high places) will find a way to weed out the trolls and make Shmeng once again a safe place for people of like mind to vent and debate and just hang out. |
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Re: It's Curtain Call for me folks
by callei (plyn@plynlymon.com) on Mar 04, 2002 - 02:24 AM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.plynlymon.com | The bloodshed was mighty! i still look back at those posts with amazement, we spent all day everyday posting back and forth. Because of it I feel that i know you far better than i really do. And i miss you. the was that you seep joy back into an environment is incredable to me.
are you getting swollen ankles yet? any funny food cravings?
I am REALLY glad that you werent here for the icky stuff, that would be bad for you and the wiggly lump in your tummy.
I hope you actually get to see this someday
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Re: It's Curtain Call for me folks
by Schizo on Mar 08, 2002 - 11:23 PM
(User info | Send a Message) | Awwwwww... warm fuzzies....
That WAS a knock-down drag-out fight, now wasn't it? Good mental exercise, anyway. So glad that pretty much everyone involved was mature enough to walk away with no hard feelings.
I tried to post a baby-info article last time I was online, but my friend's computer STINKS and it froze and I lost the post and didn't have the heart to try again. So I think I will try once more today and see if I can get something coherent out. After all, I'm staying the night at my friend's, so theoretically I can struggle with this pile of electronics from Hell as long as I need to! I'm afraid this computer has a bad case of a couple of teenage boys who like to download too many cool screensavers for its feeble memory! |
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Re: ATTENTION
by pAris (dparis@columbus.rr.com)
on Feb 28, 2002 - 09:46 PM
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Okay. I know I should be emailing this to Ickgirl and Callei and Devin, but I felt the need to be public about following my own advice and asking forgiveness.
First off, I want to apologize if I have been shmengy or causing shmeng for others. I have been going through some weird shit the past year (including getting laid off and some really crappy financial consequences of that) and there have been growing pains with my family and my Family, and I think there has also been a really strange world vibe lately that I tried to ignore. I did not mean to fling anything at anyone.
I started coming here last year because my grrl showed me the site and I got into a couple of good conversations, then kind of meandered away for a while. Recently I came back and got really involved in some of the things people were saying, and even when I did not agree with them, I really liked the intelligence and the variety of people here. I like friendly arguing, but I do not respond well to mud flinging and sometimes resort to it when it happens.
Sure sometimes someone would make me pissy with something they wrote, but I try to take it with a grain of salt too. And sometimes I think my written words can sound harsher than I meant them to be, so if I pissed someone off, I am sorry.
So as someone who tries to know when to take a hint, if I am not wanted here please remove me from the roster. I would miss people that I have come to know a little bit more each day from their posts, but as Arthegarn said, I too tend to be a bit paranoid as a learned experience.
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Re: ATTENTION
by callei (plyn@plynlymon.com) on Mar 01, 2002 - 11:00 AM
(User info | Send a Message) http://www.plynlymon.com | Can you reuly believe that I would want someone who can come up with the joke AB&D to go anywhere but to my parties?
I am really sorry to hear about the lay offs and the Family stuff, sometimes it sucks to be a grown up. The lay offs were big news here, about half of us were laid off as well ( ithink) and the rest were either total stress buckets waiting for the ax, or in some cases waiting for our parents to get the ax. |
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Re: ATTENTION
by pAris (dparis@columbus.rr.com) on Mar 01, 2002 - 01:57 PM
(User info | Send a Message) http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/279/unbalanced_load.html | Aw shucks... I have to give Devin credit for the set-up for the joke.
And you never know, I just may show up at said parties (don't worry - I always bring a gift for the host/hostess, chocolate, party favors, and plenty of catnip for the resident supreme beings).
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Re: ATTENTION
by Monolycus on Mar 01, 2002 - 07:02 AM
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Very much like Arthegarn and pARIS, I have always been one of those people who point at themselves in semi-guilty confusion when anyone uses the phrase "...and you know who you are!" In the most Zen sense, I don't know who I am, but that is neither here nor there. The point of this post is not to absolve myself from any wrongdoing (I have a very skewed height-to-hubris ratio), rather to reassure Arthegarn and pARIS that I have found their posts to be well thought out and I have appreciated their input.*
I have actually appreciated most everyone's input, even when I have not always agreed with it. I am still new here, but picking through the archives has given me a sense of the general tone of things... and that tone is, for the most part, one that I can appreciate. It takes intelligence to be truly disgruntled (The Stupid can always distract themselves with day-time television and get over whatever is bothering them), but for people who mull over Life's Little Unmentionables, this is a very healthy place to cathart a bit.
I am sorry that the ranks of the Stupid have been spilling over a bit, and would like to assure everyone that I, personally, mean no lasting harm. If ever I truly and deeply offend, always feel free to mention it to me either publicly or privately. If nothing else, I love to get mail.
*And this despite Arthegarn's unfortunate career choices! Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Re: ATTENTION
by Arthegarn on Mar 01, 2002 - 10:10 AM
(User info | Send a Message) | | I realy had a big laugh about the note, hawhawhaw |
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...eep
by Dolorosa on Mar 01, 2002 - 09:38 AM
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For some reason I feel very, very small...dammit, I hate that.
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Re: ATTENTION
by AlteredMind (DarkSideVampireX@AOL.com)
on Jun 21, 2003 - 08:56 PM
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I receieved the letter you wrote to me about my " ......................................" after each statement I made. I never meant to piss you off, and if I have than I'll try to change that.In fact I have changed that. I would really like to know what you think of me. After all you did say for us to ask you if we wanted to know.
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