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Politics: Pharmocological Oppression II
Posted by IamSquid on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:50 AM PST

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I just found this link today. If yoo remember my previous article I spoke about the effect MAOIs have upon a person's pyche as well as the state of New Mexico now medicating citizens under penalty of law.

Now we see that the Bush administration is about to require that all US citizens be subjected to psychoanalysis with the intention of medicating any and everyone who "needs" it.

If we put two and two together it becomes obvious that what is on the horizon is the manditory medicated submission of the populace. Need I say more?


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Re: Pharmocological Oppression II
by IamSquid (undisclosed)
on Jul 12, 2004 - 08:22 PM
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I would like to post that I was slightly in error while writing this article. The plan is not that EVERYONE is to be screened for mental disorders but that all children attending school and all people working in the education field be screened which is basicly the saem thig except more eventual.


Re: Pharmocological Oppression II
by bettie_x (strangersangel@hotmail.com)
on Jul 12, 2004 - 10:49 PM
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I actually had a talk with a man who's son had "behavior" problems, and the school demanded he be put on ritalin immediately. He refused, citing he'd been working long hours the last couple of years and his son just needed extra attention, and that he'd see to the matter. The school psychiatrist INSISTED it was ADHD, and when the man refused to medicate his son, they called CPS and he was jailed for not forcing his son to take pills. They said that by not providing his son the medication for his "adhd" he was abusing him.

Here's my problem with it. ADHD is overblown. People don't want children, they want miniature adult replicas of themselves. People don't understand anymore that ESPECIALLY little boys CAN'T sit still...they jump up and down and scream and eat dirt and boogers and fling spitwads. It's what KIDS DO. Since they can't handle it it's automatically a problem of the CHILD and hence medication is dispensed like candy. I've seen kids with ADHD, and yes, medication is needed for them to function...I've seen kids WITHOUT ADHD and were prefectly normal, yet seen as a "problem" and medicated. People in this country have a more serious problem than kids who are hyperactive because they don't get enough time outside. It's parents who can't deal with anything anymore. Their answer to everything from depression to hyperactivity to stress is take a fucking pill. It's in our slang (take a chill pill) and advertised in half the commercials on television during family prime time.

"Does your teen seem depressed? Loneley? Dismissive and reclusive and irrational?" Yes, they're fucking teenagers.
"Does your child have problems concentrating? Can they not sit still for more than an hour? Do they jump up and down and get into trouble?" YES, they're CHILDREN.

The only thing that medication fixes is the salaries of the drug companies, because once you're on them, you get the priveledge of withdrawl and not a real fix in the future. It's lovely.


Re: Pharmocological Oppression II
by MystryssRavynDarque (MystryssRavynHI@wmconnect.com)
on Jul 13, 2004 - 10:31 AM
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This reminds me of the episode of South Park where all of the kids are put on ritalin and they all start liking Billy Joel. The mentally and physically handicapped character Timmy is diagnosed with ADHD becaues he can't say anything but Timmy when read the entire Great Gatsby and asked a question most nobody would remember. Then all of the other kids are tested with A Farewell to Arms. It is really a funny episode and just shows how much everyone thinks every child has ADHD. My cousin was diagnosed with ADHD and is on a medication, but his problems come from a very dysfunctional home and no discipline. Parents baby their children too much.


Re: Pharmocological Oppression II
by Kira (mod_complex-at-hotmail.com)
on Jul 13, 2004 - 10:56 AM
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I was at a cookout this weekend, and at some point the conversation turned to what meds people were on/had been on. I sat and listened for a little while, and out of the 8 or so people all talking I think I was the only person there who had no experience in the matter. I had to bite my tongue a few times, thinking there is no way that all these people had mental/emotional problems severe enough to require the dozens of medications that were surfacing in the conversation.

I'm not saying I've never felt depressed, or fucked up, or like I couldn't deal with people. But like Bettie said, that's life. I have a hard time believing ALL those people physically needed to be medicated. If our hardwiring failed that often in that high of a percentage of the populous, how did we ever manage to evolve this far without people taking themselves out before they could breed? And if people really do need them that badly, what does that say about how messed up our society/social structure is?


Re: Pharmocological Oppression II
by IamSquid (undisclosed)
on Jul 13, 2004 - 08:27 PM
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My new least favorite class of meds is selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Basicly reuptake is when yor neurons say, "okay, that's enough, we're good" and cause yor glands to stop producing whichever neurotransmitter in question. So what happens when yor body starts producing serotonin and doesnt stop?

Well let's have a look at drugs like cocaine and ecstasy. Both these drugs elevate the hell out of yor serotonin and make coming down fom them incedibly disagreeable. It is well known that long-term use of both of these drugs depletes the body's ability to produce serotonin altogether and eventually results in Parkison's disease. Take Richard Pryor for example.

For some reason the FDA has no problem pointing out these properties of coke and E but evades the question when it comes to SSRIs such as paxil.


Re: Pharmocological Oppression II
by Domkitten (saradevil@saradevil.com)
on Jul 15, 2004 - 09:30 AM
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In short this continues to disgust me. My level of disgust has not gone down since you last pointed this out Squid, and it’s appreciated that you have.

However, in the long run, the enforcement of a drug culture in our schools is so ironic it makes me want to scream. Especially since I was raised during the famous Just Say No phase Nancy was going through. As I recall not only was that a huge country wide initiative, the schools were at ground zero for the anti-drug propaganda. This was very effective for me since my mother was an addict and an alcoholic, I could just look at her to see the dangers of drugs. I also watched rather helplessly, as when the intuitive finally and inevitably failed, my brothers and sisters (all younger) became addicts in various forms. Oddly, I was an addict too, I was addicted to orgasms. Loved em, couldn’t get enough of them. I’m convinced that it was the orgasm that kept me from becoming a drug addict. In many ways the orgasm produced many of the same effects of marijuana, and heroin, you feel insurmountable pleasure, mellow, and giddy, and relaxed for several hours afterwards.

Say no to drugs was easy for me, since they never preached about sex in school, I had no idea that masturbation would eventually come under fire for being bad, but fortunately was old enough to seriously exam and question the knowledge of the adults around me at the time to come to the conclusion that they could all go to hell, cause I loved me, biblically.

And, here we are, ironically, 20 odd years later telling all the children in school, say yes to drugs, if you don’t we will put daddy in jail. I mean, seriously, is there nothing that we can present to children as an alternative to pill popping as a way of modifying their behavior. Tie this in with the creepy, and incredibly destructive policies that are created by “No child left behind” and the Iraqi War, and you have a real time bomb. Now, teachers have incredibly high standards of education that they must meet, and a disruptive child can cost a school lots of money. If your not aware “NCLB” requires that all schools meet a standardized test level of 96% or better. When I was in school testing in the 96% made you above average. Now if you can’t make it, your school will loose millions of dollars, teachers will be fired, and children who do make the test scores will move to other schools. Oh, and if your school is on probation you get to put a sign on the door that says so, so everyone knows you’re a failure.

Now how does all this, plus the Iraq war lead to increased pill popping and limited opportunities? Simple. Less money for schools means less after school activities and less diversity in the school curriculum. It may come as a surprise to some that not all children learn the same way. Some children are more geared towards visual learning, while others learn from listening, and still others learn from logical progression. Take away a teachers time in class and she cannot diversify her presentation to meet the needs of all her students. Take away the art teachers salary and he sure as hell isn’t going to stick around. Take away band and you have an entire generation of students who could have been using that access energy to practice instruments, and perform, and get college scholarships, that turn to pills. Take away gym and after school sports activities for elementary school students and you have fat kids who take pills and play video games.
Where does the money go, to vouchers that can be used at private schools, and to the corporate entities that are “rebuilding Iraq” (I’m sorry, but I can’t think that the reconstruction of Iraq is GW favorite administrative sarcasm, I mean seriously, they are going to be rebuilding forever as long as someone is there to keep blowing it up, it’s just a monetary hole).

And, fat kids, kids that are unmotivated, kids that are not being taught in a way that they can understand, where to the end up, on the wrong side of a bottle, taking pil

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