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Articles: Hypocrisy at its best |
Posted by
Poison on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 04:03 AM PST
I strongly believe that most people can’t or won’t understand their own sexuality let alone allow themselves to even tolerate someone else’s choice in the matter. Now I’m farely pissed off by these people, but I try to avoid them as much as I can. However it’s a bit hard to do that when they’re hiding in your own back yard, so to say… allow me to explain.
Alright, first of all I have to clear up something else, the people that call themselves libertines/goths in my city match up to the number of maybe 40 or 50. One of them organized a “Goth Night” called “St. Vitus Dance”(info and pics here) at a club every Friday night. I must hand it to the guy; he did a really nice job.
Regardless, you’d figure you can go there, have fun and not be judged, like in other places of the sort… but aparently that’s not possible, because the gossip is still alive and breathing. On the surface it seems like nobody really gives a shit to what the other ones are doing, but that’s not right at all. You hear the rumours the next day! It’s unbelievable! These people aparently follow the “if I’m not getting any you’re not getting any” routine, maybe even not realizing this.
I began seeing this about two months ago when I brought another guy along with me to that club, than my usual “date”, whom I’ve been showing up with for some time then. Now, for fuck sake, it wasn’t any of their damned business what was going on between the former date and me or between the new one and me. Still, someone or some of them called my former date and told him something like “hey, man, your girlfriend was making out with some guy all night long and I doubt it was you”. So what if I was? It’s my choice. They had no idea if I had broken up with him or not, or what the fuck was going on between us. And again I say, it wasn’t their concern anyhow. It wasn’t even relevant. They have as little right to meddle in my sex life, as I do to meddle in theirs. Again I say, are they so frustrated that they can only get off on getting involved in other people’s business. Get a fucking life.
Some time passes by and I kiss my girlfriend one night at the club, only to hear the loudest “Oh my god” in the background, coming from some 15 year old girls, only there to mock and make fun. How childish can you get, when they threaten someone’s date that they'd call her parents (????) if he doesn’t leave her alone? What do parents have to do with anything? And what if she doesn’t want to be left alone…
And more. If you can take it, that is. These people go up to a guy and tell him to stop making out with two girls, because it seems not all the people there are ok with “that sort of behaviour”… WHAT THE FUCK??!!! Where do they come off telling somebody not to do something because it interferes with what? Their high moral standards? Their sense of political righteousness? What?… “That sort of behaviour”??? If you’re not okay with it, why don’t you look away? Nobody said you have to do anything you don’t want to. But, oh I’m sorry, does it affect your sharp principles? Fuck off.
Now it wouldn’t stop me from continueing to do whatever I want, no matter how much they gossip and call me slut behind my back, fuck they can foam at the mouth for all I care, and my “partners in crime” feel the same, but what really bothers me is the hypocrisy of it all. And they’re supposed to be libertines? Self-proclamed no less.
I can't help but wonder, if they of all people say stuff like that, what can we expect from the “normal” majority? If they are the ones with the opened minds, what do the others think? Maybe crucifying? At least they don’t say one thing and then do the oposite.
As oposed to what they say - monogamy is not the only way to go in life, nor is heterosexuality. You don’t beat someone in the head with a sledgehammer if they prefer the same sex or if they like to have multiple partners, or hell, even if they like to experiment. You DON’T do that.
Fucking hypocrits.
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Note: Note: I'd hoped it was only like this in America. (But I bet gossiping sounds cooler in Romanian) |
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Re: Hypocrisy at its best
by KatB on Sep 04, 2002 - 06:49 AM
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The smaller the community, the bigger the assholes. Friggin' Twin Peaks... *shudders* Sympathy from a bit further north - you should come visit, our club is actually not that bad, there's a lot of stuff going on and people don't seem to care. As far as I know, anyway. (http://www.gothamnights.com)
- And it's not as far as Seattle ;-)
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Re: Hypocrisy at its best
by Xaoswolf (Xaoswolf at hotmail dot com)
on Sep 04, 2002 - 07:05 AM
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I've never really noticed stuff like that here. I mean, there are the times when you'll hear things like, "Damn does that girl in that vinyl dress look fine" which is followed by, "Really, HIS name is Brian, want me to introduce you?", or you'll hear someone say, "What was that song you were playing when those two hot lesbians were making out on the dance floor?", and the only time someone was told to stop or directly confronted was when the diaper guy was playing with himself.
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Re: Hypocrisy at its best
by Keltin (lanthanein@earthlink.net)
on Sep 04, 2002 - 12:02 PM
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Agreed! Most people out there are double faced bastards. They want to be tolerated for all their little idiosincracies and quirks, but cannot FATHOM tolerating someone elses. It's a whole world based on "me first" mentality, where they are the most important thing, all rules should bend to them, yet they are the ones who then turn around and try to shove rules and their own thoughts down your throat.
Why can't people realize that life is SO much simpler and less stressful, if you LEAVE yourself out of other people's problems/concerns/lifestyles. Sheesh.
I'll end here, lest I end up taking up the REST of my lunch - heh heh heh
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No it doesn't...
by Poison on Sep 04, 2002 - 02:22 PM
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Gossiping doesn not sound better in romanian. I can see the joke here *grin* but hell, to me it sounds even worse. Gossip sounds annoying in any language anyways, fuck I don't care if they utter it in ancient egyptian...
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Re: Hypocrisy at its best
by Merry_Widow on Sep 04, 2002 - 09:23 PM
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Next time the teeny bopper wannabes giggle and point fingers, point one right back. Only make sure it's your middle finger. And point it straight up. Granted, it doesn't solve a damn thing, but it will make you feel better.
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Let's talk about sex
by Arthegarn on Sep 07, 2002 - 11:14 AM
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I completely agree with you about the fact most people will never understand their own sexuality. Most females and almost all males, I'd contribute, because while most females might feel some anxiety at the prospect of being homosexual, most males feel striaght panic. I wonder if they realize that the average male has more homosexual orgasms than heterosexual ones, because when people self masturbate they are by definition having a homosexual contact (C'mon, boys, rise your hands if you don't agree)...
But then again it's true than in the Scene there is a great "tolerance" about anyone else's sexual options. I think that the fact is most goths don't give a damn about wether you like fish or meat or both, and if they do it's because they'd like to be in your dish. But whatever the reason I understand that you feel "betrayed" so to speak.
15 year olds don't get childish. They are childish,as childish as they come, as a rule of thumb, with all due respect and innocence suposition to all 15 year old Shmeng members (my, that was the lawyer in me). We also have of that kind in Spain. We call them "people who come to the circus", preps who come to the goth clubs just to drool over our magnificient, sexy girls (because gothbabes are ALL magnificient and sexy, and Shmeng ones are the best ;-) They stand around critizising all they do not drool over, and actually it's kind of funny. If we hadn't something we call "vergüenza ajena", literally meaning "other's shame" and which is feeling shame by the actions of someone else, they would be really welcome and most likely thrown peanuts.
In Spain most goths don't care about anyone else's sex life with the possible exception of some "cultural icons'" (Hey stop looking at me, willya?) Just yesterday I found myself discussing someone else's sex life. I was defending hir, but when I realized what the discussion was about I just stopped it with a brief "we shouldn't really be talking about someone who isn't here, you know", and the matter was instantly dropped. As if we hadn't a Dali exposition toi talk about!
Down here we are all happy with that kind of beahviour. Including your Catholic Father Arthegarn, by the way. Live and let live. Who isn't happy with that kind of behaviour is just because he wished he was the one making out with the two girls. And if someone really isn't happy, they are immediately shown the door and asked to make their choice and stop complaining because we are all very happy here with our sexual uninhibition, thank you. Anyway most are just like Banky in "Chasing Amy": "C'mon, man, when do you think we are going to see something like this live again without having to pay for it". Slipping over the drool is the greatest danger
Advantages of being hot, sexy latins*, you know.
As for the first part of your post, when someone tells your former date that you are with someone else... Well, that gossiper may not be a gossiper. It might be a friend of your former date worried about hir. Allow me some room about this.
I have recently been involved (I still am) in a similar situation to yours. Devin knows most of the story and many regulars will guess (perhaps even you). And I have been wondering what would I have done in the place of the confident, and the sad answer is I would have done exactly the same. If I see evidence of harm coming in a friend's way it is my duty as a friend to inform that friend. I can't hate the informant because s/he was doing what s/he thought was better for hir friend. It's not about getting a life, it's about having it and not turning your head when life puts you in a moral dilemma and act as if you had seen nothing. As I see it their intention was not to meddle in your sex life but to protect someone else's love life, your sex life being a colateral damage.
But who knows. Perhaps they just wanted to gossip and cause pain. That kind of peo
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