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| Drama: RFC: Picture Copyrights |
Posted by
Devin on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 07:13 PM PST
This is a request for comments on the subject of picture copyrights on this site. I usually do this kind of thing as a poll, but those are multiple choice and I think this subject calls for more verbose answers. I think the current rules are working ok at keeping people from posting other people's pictures here, but now I'm trying to figure out how to keep people from stealing pictures off of this site and claiming they are their own. I don't like the idea of sticking a shmeng.com copyright notice on other people's pix. I was thinking maybe a "found on shmeng.com" notice, which would make some sites not accept them, but not all sites have that policy or check pictures. Another option is to require a copyright notice on all submitted pictures, but some people barely have the technology to submit pictures, much less write on them. And what about the 420 (yes there's exactly 420 right now) pictures already posted? Post your ideas in the comments please. Thanks, -Devin-
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by Rogue (Rogue@skew.org)
on Jul 02, 2002 - 07:52 PM
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If this is a problem, I suggest placing the copyright notice on the pics, it should be easy enough to script. Either that or send Ickgirl after each of them in turn, with a Tonya Harding signature series tire iron or Rodney King signature series 8-D-cell police flashlight.
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by Comedian (eccentrically_long@yahoo.com)
on Jul 02, 2002 - 09:11 PM
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While I do side with the maglight solution, and would enjoy partaking of that myself, solutions for this kind of shit come to mind in the form of photoshop and a simple side tag. Everybody is doing it, Stileproject and Somethingawful. From the worst to.. slightly worser.
Alrighty ladies, let's slap some lipstick on this pig!
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by ickgirl on Jul 03, 2002 - 08:54 AM
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ok, here's my opinion on the matter, and it may or may not be suprising.
I think everyone should be responsible for their own pictures. If you're not worried about people stealing them or you just don't care, then post them the way you have been. If you're worried about it, either add something to them so no one steals them, or don't upload them.
So, that's my opinion.
I wouldn't object to the following, however:
When people upload their picture, they click on a box that says "yes, I agree" giving us permission to add something on it that says "stolen from shmeng.com"
;)
ickgirl
(my arms are tired from all this skull cracking!)
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by VampCourt (Morbidchic@hotmail.com)
on Jul 03, 2002 - 10:34 AM
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With my normal me pictures, i really dont care. im me.. and if someone really wanted proof that it was me in the pic.. its not like i couldnt just prove it. it IS my face after all. and as for art work.. i think people should put thier signature on it for that reason. Thats why i always sign my work. i mean i think i have a couple pics on here that arent signed but those were mainly created to be icons for shmeng.
it really sucks that there is a abundant amount of people that steal identities online and such. but its a shitty world. your gonna have shitty people. better to protect what you have.
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by Devin (devin-at-vibechild-dot-com)
on Jul 03, 2002 - 11:19 AM
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Another issue is that I don't want to be manually adding text to all of the pictures that come in. And to automate it, it would be really easy to just stamp all of them, but really hard to script it so that I could just automatically stamp certain ones.
Also, if it's scripted, the stamp will always be in the same place - which means there's a possibility of covering up someone's existing copyright notice. That kinda sucks.
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by necromancer on Jul 03, 2002 - 01:44 PM
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every time you upload a picture, you risk having it stolen. devin, i don't think you should waste time stamping all the pictures, or adding words, or whatever. someone who wants to steal a picture will regardless. all they have to do is crop and alter so teh words don't show.
how do you "go after" someone for picture theft anyway???
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by Monolycus on Jul 03, 2002 - 02:01 PM
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I can't speak for the majority, but I do not mind a stamp or watermark being applied to pictures. The time consuming, pain-in-the-ass approach would be to make a clickable consent for all new submitted pictures to be stamped in order to be displayed in the gallery (something smallish in the lower left-hand corner should not be too disruptive... it's not like inscribing a "666" on everyone's foreheads), and to have persons with existing pictures email in their wishes about having their pictures altered, removed, or left the way they are.
I realise that this would require a great deal of work and energy for Devin & associates. If the picture stealing pandemic is worth the hassle of amending the policies in this way, perhaps the work could be delegated to qualified members to make things easier?
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by MorteAscendo on Jul 03, 2002 - 06:23 PM
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Well...about the pictures you have no find some people that familliar with some type of digital art(photoshop...etc..) and send them or have them dowload like 10-20 pics and just mark them with a logo or script of choice...im sure big fans of this place wouldnt mind helping out..including myself...well..thats my 2 cents.
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by Sticupus (sticupus@hotmail.com)
on Jul 03, 2002 - 11:24 PM
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I cannot give a solution to your problem, but I can agree that the copyright notice would be terrible for peoples art and images. For example: My piece in the Other Art gallery, "Sticupus Idealized Icon" would look like crap if any writing were on it. It would take away the simplicity and the entire point of the image.
If you do decide to put a copyright notice on that image, I hold the right to superimpose porn on top of it. I might as well since the piece is fucked. :D
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by necromancer (blue_necromancer@hotmail.com)
on Jul 04, 2002 - 08:23 AM
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okay, here's an idea and maybe i've had too much coffee this morning and i have no idea if this is even possible:
the picture is viewed as normal on this page, but when someone tries to copy the picture, a huge watermark covering the ENTIRE picture appears on the copy. like "stolen, stolen, stolen" or some such. again i haven't any idea if this is even possible to do.
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by callei (plyn@plynlymon.com)
on Jul 04, 2002 - 10:07 AM
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Identity theft is annoying and unfun, true. But if you dont want the whole world to see you, dont go outside. For all the artists here, would you willingly and for free allow someone to copy your art? If you post it here or ANYWHERE not password protected, you are doing just that. Big brother cant stop the theft. He can help you hunt them down and get some of your own back
IF you are a model, do you willingly and freely let anyone take pictures of you posing? That is what you are doing if you are posting the pictures here.
This is called the world-wide (see that WORLD)-web. Its like just like being in public, despite some of the laws that let you go after them after the fact. Anything that can be stolen, will be, just like a public beach, in a mall, or at a park. We are in public here.
As a model or artist (who's pictures have inherent value in dollars) you are getting little or no publicity here. You also arent just sharing with friends here. Remember that. You have put up a display booth on a crowded street where everyone has cameras and likes to use them.
For the rest of us with sloppy webcam pictures or whatever, identiy theft happens regularly and the net just made it easier for those kinds of people to fake being you in this one place (the net). Be aware that you are opening yourself up for that risk and deal with it. Be prepared to hunt for the theft, investing both time and enegry to protect yourself from your own act. Sue them. You have the right.
I had my real life identy stolen once. It was strange and lots of people got hurt and i was shaken for months about it, so i do actually know what i am talking about here.
I think the easiest solution is dont post a pic if it has intrensic value (art) or if you are nervous of the theft of that pic and a false persona being developed for it. Nothing else will protect your pictures better than you not risking them in the first place.
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by Shade (Shade@Gothcult.com)
on Jul 04, 2002 - 08:25 PM
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I did have one other thought, I don't know how much of a pain in the ass this would be, but what about a script that literally shreds the picture? cut the pics into 16 pieces or something and have them put together with a style sheet. I've seen it done on a few other sites that wanted to protect thier investment, granted that was a few years ago, but if its not to difficult, it would be a relatively good deterant to those who just want to grab the easiest pic on the net to use as their own...
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by Alugarde (SoulCiphyr@aol.com)
on Jul 05, 2002 - 09:44 AM
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Someone needs to invent the digital equivelant of "Kodak" written all over the back of the picture...
I do like the picture shredding idea though, but 16 pieces sounds like more of a puzzle then an obstacle. Is there any way you could just scramble all the pixels?
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by oohp (oohp@gotik.nu)
on Jul 08, 2002 - 04:48 AM
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Copyright notices suck. People who want copyright notices on their pics should put those copyright notices themselves (I believe some people here already do). You should add a JPEG comment to those pics reflecting they were taken from this site.
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Re: RFC: Picture Copyrights
by Alugarde (SoulCiphyr@aol.com)
on Jul 08, 2002 - 08:00 PM
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Something I saw on another web site recently was a relatively thin copyright notice put on each picture. Diagnolly. That way it doesn't block much of the picture, but in order to get rid of it you'd have to crop out a major portion of the picture. Is there any way show the picture normally in the galleries but have it show up when the picture is copied?
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