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Articles: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more? |
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firefly7 on Sunday, June 09, 2002 - 04:22 AM PST
"Bi guys are gross, it's just not right. Now bi girls, on the other hand, are great! What guy wouldn't love to have two girls in bed with him? Plus if he got tired he could just watch them going at it..." At this point, I slapped him.
"What was that for?! What I say, what I do?" I glared at him icily.
"That's awful Colin, I can't believe you." He looks at me and says; of all things...
"Since when are you bi?"
I mean come on now WHAT THE FUCK!?! If I am bi, it most certainly isn't any of his business.
Then he had the nerve to keep going.
"Now gay guys are something else I have a problem with. I mean two guys making out, or having sex, now that is just sick! Sick!" I look at him steadily.
"And why is that? I mean it's certainly no worse than two girls "going at it", now is it? He looks amazed that I don't understand his point of view. I mean come on now...
"Because girls are hot! Are you Fucking stupid?! Guys are just, ugh..." He shudders, and then smiles at me.
"Get it now?" I nod. Of course I get it.
"Homophobic. That's what you are." He shrugs.
"Just about guys." Yeah right, I bet if he ever met a lesbian, he'd freak and piss his pants or something. He's like that.
Last night my mom found out that my best friend has been asked out by a very nice, smart guy who just happens to be bi, and she said;
"Would YOU like to date some one who had feelings for members of the same gender?" I was shocked; I mean my mom is usually one of the least discriminative people I know. I was just at a loss for words for a moment.
"If they were a nice, intelligent person who I shared common interests with then yes, I would." She just nodded. I think the world around me has gone a little bit mad.
I have a friend who is very into the bible and God and all that stuff- which I am definitely not. She tells me that she can't be friends with gay people because there is some sort of something about it in the bible. And, she said something like "If you pray than you won't be homosexual. God will help you over come your feelings."
I mean, if I were bi would they all suddenly change their opinions of me? I wonder. I mean of all the things you that could have problems with, sexual orientation. What is the world coming to? *sighs* I want some chocolate...
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by Schizo on Jun 09, 2002 - 05:00 AM
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I can deal with a guy preferring a threesome with two girls rather than a guy and a girl, but I agree, Colin has gone past the line of personal preference and delved into homophobia.
As for your Christian friend, yes, the Bible does call homosexuality a sin. And if you're going to believe the Bible, you're going to end up believing that too. But nowhere does it say you can't be friends with someone who sins. Hell, Jesus was described as a friend of sinners, after all, and aren't Christians supposed to be like Jesus? And if you could remove a sin just by praying, I know a lot of people who ought to be perfect now, but they sure as hell aren't! It's not as simple as that.
Anyway, thinking back, I think most of the references to homosexuality are in Paul's letters (I ought to double check, but I'm too lazy) and I really don't think that some guy's letters ought to be counted on the same level as the Word of God. Not that I pay that much attention to the Bible, anyway. I figure, if it's really true, then real life ought to bear it out. So I just live life and see what happens.
Anyway, I'm a Christian (or ex-Christian, or sort-of-Christian, or something, at least I was raised that way) and I don't really give a damn who anyone sleeps with, except maybe the B.F. I must admit I'm a little pickier there...
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by DevilBunny (land_of_nod@poczta.onet.pl)
on Jun 09, 2002 - 08:05 AM
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Well, obviously Colin went way out of the line. He says that he has nothing against "bi" girls, probably because he'd like two have sex with two not one. Typically male.
I think the most important thin is that two people like what they are doing. If you are a guy and prefer men, and you find someone with the same "orientation", hell, that's great, if you're happy with each other. Because that's what it's about, right?
Now onwards, to the Bible girl... assuming there is a God, like described in the Bible. I doubt He cares about your sexual orientation. Love, that's what is important. And that is in the Bible. God will not change "your feelings", in fact I think he would assure you that what you are doing is right, as long as it's not hurting anyone. Because He gave humans a free will, and that goes to sex, too. It were the people who wrote the Bible that made up all those silly rules. A true Christian needs only the words of Christ to live a good life. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but Christ said nothing about sex. orientation.
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by Alugarde (SoulCiphyr@aol.com)
on Jun 09, 2002 - 09:35 AM
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Perhaps you should pretend to come out for a while and see who your real friends are?
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people.
by Zander (zandriod@aagothic.net)
on Jun 09, 2002 - 03:08 PM
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sounds like your friend collin is having some homosexual thoughts bumping around in his head. So he's lacing his speach with Extra testosterone to try and cover that up in fear of ridicule.
then again he could just be a dumb-ass.
I'm tri-sexual. *just kidding*
but seriously if you begin to notice that you are finding other men attractive than god is making you gay and praying to the church won't help!
The fact that your friend collin finds gay women attractive and not men is sexist bullshit.
Cause remember, he didn't say that two guys kissing was gross to SEE he said it was gross and wrong period.
Some people are to good for death.
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by Anya (-)
on Jun 09, 2002 - 03:51 PM
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I guess people are just stupid (like that's new, haha). Nothing is wrong with sexual preference. Not like a guy having a gay friend means his gay friend is going to attack him. Sheesh.
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by IamSquid (AAA@sockmonkeys.net)
on Jun 09, 2002 - 10:33 PM
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Gotta agree with Zander.
WHAT COULD BE MORE GAY THAN HOMOPHOBIA!?!?!
That's right, ever notice how all those guys talking about "fags" in highschool were hardcore into homoerotic sports and showing-off their muscles to other guys?
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by Comedian (eccentrically_long@yahoo.com)
on Jun 10, 2002 - 12:41 AM
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I bet if he met a lesbian he'd ask if he could bring his camera.
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by Xaoswolf (Xaoswolf@hotmail.com)
on Jun 10, 2002 - 08:51 AM
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Ever think of genetics as the reason for why guys would want two girls, and not another a girl and a guy in bed with him. Look at it this way, two girls means he can spread his seed twice as much, and create more children to propogate his line, but if there is another male there, then there is a chance that someone else will get the woman pregnant. Look at lions, one dude gets all of the pride, and if another male comes close, they fight it out. Does that make the lions homophobic, I wouldn't think so.
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by firefly7 (-)
on Jun 10, 2002 - 12:56 PM
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Thank you to every one that replyed. Colin is reading it now and wants me to mention that he was just "speaking his mind". But w/e. Anywho- thanks again!
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by Sticupus (sticupus@hotmail.com)
on Jun 10, 2002 - 08:21 PM
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The Bibble (yes, I mean Bibble not Bible) quote in question is from my favorite book in the Bibble. Leviticus!!!
The quote word for word according to the Jerusalem Bibble goes as follows-
Leviticus 20:21 Line 13- "The man who lies with a man in the same way as with a woman: they have done a hateful thing together; they must die; their blood shall be on their own their own heads."
Keep in mind Leviticus says nothing about lesbian sex directly, so it can be assumed that big mac daddy Yahweh likes when two hunnies get in on. So lesbianism may be assumed as not sinful. (One point for team dyke)
But keep in mind the bible says many other things as well. One of my favorite quotes is from Psalm.
Psalm 137:24 Line 8- "O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, blessed by God is he who repays you for what you have done to us; a blessing on him who seizes your infants and dashes their brains against the rocks."
Yes that’s right, kill innocent babies for god. He obviously wants you too. (One point for Planned Parenthood)
This will probably upset a few people...
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by nocta on Jun 12, 2002 - 10:20 PM
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Someone once told me that nowhere in the Bible does it specifically say you cannot be a homosexual. There are bits that can be interpreted (some might say twisted) into saying that, but there's no Thou Shalt Not Be A Homo law or anything. If you know of a passage that says this straight (no pun intended) out, please let me know, and also include which version you are reading. I do tend to think that a lot of people use the Bible as an excuse for their homophobia.
Besides, I've been told many times that God created each person specially...if being gay was wrong, then why would He create some people that way? Why can't people just Love Thy Neighbor...or at least butt out of their business?
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Re: Homophobics and stupid people in my life, is there even a difference any more?
by sorceress_ly (darknessembraced_andariel@yahoo.com)
on Jun 28, 2002 - 10:04 AM
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I understand. As a bi girl I get a lot of shit and nice comments about it. Girls usually hate it but guys love it. I have many gay friends and have had many bi lovers its just diffrent when it comes to guys. I dont mind having a thing with a guy who is by but when it comes to dating I can't. I don't like to share my boyfreinds at all, but that's just me. I need some chocolate too...it fixes everything.
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