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Re: Church of the Poisoned Mind
by ariadne (minervous@panic.com)
on Sep 10, 2005 - 06:18 PM
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Looking back, there was more I wished I would have said. What really got to me was how red his face had become and how much he was sweating and raising his voice. This was obviously a touchy subject. He could not defend it properly. There is no possible way to defend hating in the name of Jesus. It is so against Christ's nature. If Christ were to come down right now he would break bread with the gay guys before that preacher. I wonder if that preacher even knows this. Christ would minister love to the gays not spit on them. What Christians do though is send out the message that gays are not welcome in their churches. Perhaps that is where God might like them to hang out. Maybe God misses them. Silly I know. It is just hard for homosexuals to feel loved by God when God's religious zealots are preaching hellfire and brimstone to them in particular. I don't think it is up to any living man walking on this earth to usurp that authority and speak for God on that level.
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Re: Church of the Poisoned Mind
by Anonymous-Coward on Sep 16, 2005 - 12:38 AM
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I go to a catholic all-girls school, and it is a prerequisite that one must take religion and therefore i do. Im not anti-christian by any means, so i listen in class and do pretty well, but i have my own thoughts on the matter, as do most of us. We had a guest speaker, who i was determined to hear out. Anyway, he turned out to be an ex-priest who actually had some interesting thoughts on the 21st century religion matter. I wouldn't say it was rivited or anything, but it was rather interesting getting a new perspective on the matter. He was talking about secular schools as apposed to christian schools, and he started saying that those who are produced from secular schools are far less likely to become interested in social and moral issues concerning our society for example they probably wont become animal activists. This, in itself, is a pretty genralised veiw of youths, but not enough to make me break my vow of respectful silence. But then he started to say that this is because they are not instilled with religious doctrine and that this is the reason why they are so empathetical. Unfortunatly i could hack this, so i said that the reason why we go to school is to prepare us for life outside in the 'real world' (whatever this pertains to) and a part of this is the instilling of moral values, including things like caring for the environment etc. To this, he said 'yes you are right' and begun talking about his schooling days in Melbourne. Clearly didnt want to answer my question. From here he begun saying that the muslim religion was based on revenge and is very violent. PROPAGANDA. One of my friends is musliim and said to him, 'im a muslim and it does not teach revenge, merely not taking crap from anyone. He went from talking about interesting modern issues (catholocism in the 21st century) and turned it into a propaganda filled brainwashing session about generalised veiws on society. It drove me nuts, however, i still recieved death stares from my religion teachers. I do, however, agree with gothicmorman, what does make the catholic church right, or me right, or anyone else wrong and where do we draw the line between a talk about someone's own veiws and a biased, generalised veiw that is forced upon 'impressionable' teenagers. Personally i take everything i am told with a pinch of salt, but i am not everyone (thank goodness) and therefore there would be those umong us who would believe it...when does it become harmfull?
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